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    What's the advantage of using 64-bit?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by dfirstevilangel, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. dfirstevilangel

    dfirstevilangel Notebook Guru

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    Besides being able to use more than 3GB of ram, what's the advantage
    of 64 bit over 32 bit windows?
     
  2. cutterjohn

    cutterjohn Notebook Evangelist

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    Nothing. (The extra memory for the OS may be handy though, as my GT725 is only addressing 3070MB.)
     
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    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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  4. dfirstevilangel

    dfirstevilangel Notebook Guru

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    I was going to get 2 2GB sticks but then I had to upgrade to 64bit...
    and I know some of my programs don't support it ><
     
  5. novablade

    novablade Notebook Consultant

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    it is more secure because the drivers must all be signed and tested for 64bit whereas the 32bit version you can bypass this and installed unsigned drivers.
     
  6. v_c

    v_c Notebook Evangelist

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    64-bit can use more memory. Every piece of memory needs an address, and with 64-bit, you've got like a bazillion* more addresses, so you can use more memory.

    4Gb (or even 2Gb) is plenty for the average user right now. But a power user might want more, running VMs or something, so they would favour 64-bit.

    Also, as GPUs get bigger in memory size, they will reserve a lot of addresses, and basically 'eat into' the maximum ram that is useable in a 32-bit system. It is not much of an issue for low-end systems, but as you start using 1Gb cards or SLI setups, 64-bit makes more and more sense.

    *okay, not a bazillion. but a lot
     
  7. dfirstevilangel

    dfirstevilangel Notebook Guru

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    thanks all for the replies, I think I will stick to 32bit for now as I
    am just an average user =)
     
  8. Charr

    Charr Notebook Deity

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    3070=3GB of RAM installed. Make sure you got what you paid for.
     
  9. RayanMX

    RayanMX Notebook Evangelist

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    Well... That's what happens when you have 4 GB installed on a 32 Bit system... It only addresses 3070 MB! (It's been discussed already!).

    However, if you have Vista SP1 then you can see the whole 4 GB in the Control Panel/System screen, but still only 3070 MB are available to play with. :rolleyes:
     
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    flattius_maximus Notebook Geek

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    64 bit architecture handles cpu data processing more efficiently.

    But unless you are doing some incredibly intensive data work....it wont matter much.
     
  11. NYG

    NYG Notebook Enthusiast

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    Everyones hardware and personal experiences may vary, but i would never run 32 bit vista on any of my personal machines (I even want to wipe that piece of trash from my corporate laptop). I find it to be incredibly sluggish compared to x64 vista. It's truly a night and day experience (at least for me).

    I guess I've been lucky too. There is no s/w I use that won't run on x64 vista. I did have to trash an older printer though because of the lack of drivers. But I was ok with that.

    Other versions of Windows or Linux I have no problem with a 32 bit OS.
     
  12. conghelach

    conghelach Notebook Consultant

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    As I understand it based on my novice research into the matter 64 bit is quite promising but a lack of driver support and antivirus or firewall support coupled with a willy nilly compatibility with 32 bit apps you may have already and many say there really isnt any point to a 64 bit OS if you are not using at least 8 gigs of ram.

    While some laptops do support that much ram now Im fairly certain the cost is prohibitive.

    Perhaps initial ventures into a 64bit realm would best be explored on a good desktop.
     
  13. projectgsx

    projectgsx Notebook Enthusiast

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    The Microsoft 64bit desktop operating systems have been a work in progress, in my opinion, for years now. Windows 7 will be the time when 64bit goes mainstream. This is mainly due to the cost of memory. You can get 4gb of laptop ram for ridiculously little these days.

    Anyways, I ended up running Vista 64 and turned off the required driver signing. For me, the only point of 64 is to access the extra ram.
     
  14. telek

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    Actually if you are running a 32bit distribution of Linux it can support up to 64GB of ram using PAE (Physical Address Extension) The 3GB + Vidcard is a limitation of the default retail Microsoft products only, (meaning you can enable it by adding the following :).

    Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP/2000:
    To enable PAE, use the /PAE switch in the Boot.ini file.
    To disable PAE, use the /NOPAE switch.

    For all the rest (vista, etc do this):

    To enable PAE, use the BCDEdit /set command to set the pae boot entry option.

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