Upgrade my MSI GT780DX to clevo 7970m?

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I want to upgrade my msi gt780dx, i have clevo videocard hd7970m

1. I can make it?
2. What is necessary for this purpose?
Help mе.

 

I am going to say this is not doable. The MSI video cards are not upgradeable, making the video cards very difficult to remove unless you rework soldering, even then the GPU compatibility is questionable.

 

I think you have to modify the heatsink to properly fit the 7970M.

Other than that, if you already have the 7970M, swapping it with your current GPU is worth a shot.

 

Well, Pau1ow tried it, I think. He said that you have to disable Enduro by flashing vBios to make Clevo 7970m work on 16f2. On the other hand, Dell 7970m works without doing any Bios or vBois mods. So your best bet is to get Dell 7970m.
As previous poster said, you need MSI 5870M heatsink in order to make this work though. This is the heat sink for GX660. Once you get one of these, you have to grind it to make it fit. Look at " 7970M heat sink mod" for the detail. Pau1ow has done great job.
Another thing you will need is throttlestop 4.0. This program can be found easily by using google.
Just to be clear, this mods is not supported by MSI. So it probably void your warranty. However, other than grinding part, it should be relatively straight forward installation. Unfortunately, your main problem is to find the MSI 5870M heatsink. It is hard to come by. So you have to keep on looking.
I hope this help.

 

GT780DX has already been upgraded with the Dell 7970M by one of my colleague, without any glitch - so go for it. (you still need the correct heatsink = heatsink 5870m ground)

 

I'm not trying to be rude and it's good to have resellers on the forum, but I would expect more MSI product knowledge from someone who sells their notebooks.

You don't need to do any soldering.

It would probably work, but as others have stated it may take a heatsink mod and the correct vbios.

 

thanks. Well the management would publish.

 

So what would I need to upgrade to the 7970m? I know I need this: AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB for Clevo P150EM P170EM P370EM Upgrademonkey in Stock | eBay but what about the heatsink? What one do I need? Just to be sure...I read it but I dont wanna buy the wrong one and I don't wanna replace the whole laptop since the cpu is performing excellent for my needs

 

contact majster msi for a GX660 heatsink (i suspect a gx60 heatsink as well) , his threadselling thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/com...570m-560m-580m-5870m-460m-670m-675m-680m.html
he also states that a 7970m heatsink is available so your better off asking him if it will work in the gt780dx, as for the vbios:
Video Bios Collection | techPowerUp
I expect the 2nd one with 18x r2 in the description will flash into a clevo card since the device id matches with the clevo ones, do correct me if I'm seriously wrong

 

With a graphics card and heatsink purchase the price can be a costly upgrade.

You might try here for the 7970M
Laptop Video Cards :: ATI HD 7970M 2GB Mobile Video Card - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

The heatsink guy is majster msi as mentioned above.

 

Then should i sell this for 600$ I put 16gb of ram into it and a 256gb ssd. I was looking at the GX70 , the one with the amd cpu. It looks like a worthwhile option because the better battery life(ati optimus like feature) im wondering if that would be a better option. Im curious about that cpu though.

 

Yeah,the GX70 looks tempting.My son has his hopes up for dad to buy it for him while dad(me) is looking at a GT70-20D to replace a GT780DX.

The MSI models are sold here without an OS which I like very much.

I've been a technet member for years so I've lots of serial keys.

 

Tough decision you have here WTP, always listen to your children! (especially when this saves you money as well)

 

Dad should buy both and wave the benchmarks at son, jokes, personal recommendation is newer tech if money/ price is not a problem

and devilsrogue, how much would you have to pay extra to get the GX70? Being a non-appl intel fanbay turns my recommendations bias in favor of intel's processor

 

The new GT70 should be a blast compared to the GX70 and the AMD CPU Shame they carry on with those week 4cores/4threads CPU.

 

I dont know about the new gt70's ...they will just feature haswell chips which I hear don't even provide much more performance except in the integrated GPU...Which of course are useless when paired with a good discrete GPU. Those amd apu's are better for all around computing, because their integrated gpus dont suck. It would be nice to have good battery life and good game performance when needed I think. I feel like AMD is scaring intel again....they didnt learn their lesson back when the amd chips were faster. Now intel is going all for their on chip gpu rather than increasing cpu numbers. .....hmmmm....I wonder why

 

Intel wants to capture the lower iGPU market where AMD rules with their products. Haswell is at most 15% faster than IvyBridge but it wins in lower heat output and a more mature iGPU. Upgrading from Ivy doesn't make much sense. Coming from older notebooks (2-3 years older), better get the new tech no?

Regarding the 7970m upgrade, I have done it and it works great. You loose automatic fan control for the GPU however. A solution would be using a "bridge" between both CPU and GPU heatsink with a spare heatpipe, just like in newer MSI systems

 

Hah, how did you that? Solder a heatpipe to both?

 

Unfortunately I didn't do anything like that :\
However having the similar temps for both cpu and gpu would be great as the fan can become more efficient this way.
Only way to do it is soldering a bridge heatpipe or finding a way to glue it on top of both original heatsinks.

 

Over at the MSI's own hosted notebook forums, there is a guy named Svet that does bios mods for donations. He is possibly a MSI employee. Someone requested an MSI 780DX EC modded bios that can read the 7970m temps for fan speed control. He said he would take a look at it, but it seems he hasn't come up with anything for weeks now.

 

You mean this post

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=168702.0

Sillybum is me lol.
I used a friend's account I just to ask that specific question without registering myself
When I still had the GT780DX with the 7970m, I had to play games with turbofan on as the EC would not respond to gpu temp changes (same problem as you). I came up with the idea of "equalising" the cpu and gpu temp in order to compensate for that. It was late however because my car broke down and forced me to sell the 7970m to makeup the money to repair it..
I even had the idea of building a thermo-controlled fan
From my researches however, I found out that the gpu temp is read by the EC in a specific region of the vbios eeprom. I couldn't extract it from the GX660 EC which had the correct values and adapt it for the GT780DX's EC. Too risky and also an incorrectly flashed EC would mean a bricked notebook as it would have trouble getting to POST.
Kakashi Sensei if you want my opinion, solder 1 heatpipe on top of the pair of heatpipes on both heatsinks. This way during gaming, the cpu temp would go higher together with the gpu temp, and the fan will start spinning faster. Also during idle, temps will be lower as both the gpu and cpu will have a "bigger" heatsink. You can revert back easily just by desoldering the pipe if it doesn't work as expected 2 small joints will be enough to keep it inplace. Fill the gap underneath with thermal paste or a good thermal pad.

Sorry for the long post

 

hi sorry for the bad english not my current language but can you help me im still a newbie at upgrading my gpu to 7970m because my gpu 570m just died.
my laptop is a MSI GT683dxr and i think we have the same board 16f2. but im still confuse of what brand will i get for the 7970m dell or clevo. im confident that i get a clevo 7970m then flash it usiing this guide http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-7970m-modded-vbios-clevo-p1xxhm-laptops.html. correct if im wrong . im still very very confuse because i saw other people they get dell 7970m then flash it with a clevo vbios and others have clevo 7970m then flash it with dell bios. but can i get clevo 7970m and flash it with a clevo vbios using this step http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-7970m-modded-vbios-clevo-p1xxhm-laptops.html. and can you give me the step that you did and what brand did you bought. sorry if i have so many questions .but im really confuse

can you help please . thanks bro.

 

If you get a dell 7970m, it needs to have vbios 015.021 or earlier. There is a sticker on the back side on pcb. If it has vbios 015.022, I think it cannot boot and you need an alienware m17xr3 to flash vbios to earlier version. If you get a clevo 7970m, you need to blindflash to 015.017 dell vbios. I say this because even the p150/p170hm vbios in blindflash tutorial will have a working display, but the ati drivers do not install. The ati drivers work perfectly with the dell 015.017 vbios. In fact, whatever card you get, you should use the 015.017 dell vbios. The blind flashing method uses atiflash, which will work with both dell and clevo vbios.

Another benefit of the dell 7970m is that it has lower height capacitors, so it requires no modification if you use the heatsink from GX60.

 

Hello sir. Anyone who managed to do this modification of 7970M to GT780DX with heat sink of 560M? I have read someone dremeled the heat sink of 570M from GT780DX and successfully upgraded his unit.

 

Hi uhmm can you tell me how did you blind flash your clevo 7970m to a dell 015.017 vbios. I know how to blind flash a clevo because there is guide thread but I dont know if it works on dell . By just changing the vbios to dell. Please help with complete detail of steps on what will I follow. Sorry for my bad english. Thanks

 

Follow the clevo guide, but use a dell vbios instead. You can find the dell vbios 015.017 collection in a thread called "AMD 7970m - modified VBIOS" at the techinferno.com forums.

 

I dremelled the 570m heatsink and used thicker thermal pads and stacked them in the gaps between heatsink and various components on the pcb. The copper plate on the heatsink does not cover roughly ~5% of the gpu core (the top and bottom corners of the 45 degree rotated square).

I do not recommend this approach, as the temperatures are not that good. I get 80C with turbo fan on when running applications where gpu utilization is in the 90s. I have heard the GX60 heatsink achieves satisfactory temps. At this point, I do not want to drop another $100 on this, so I will probably stick to using my modded heatsink.