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    Tornado F5 GTX 1070 barebones upgrade to gtx 1080?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by panamaniacs2011, Apr 20, 2018.

  1. panamaniacs2011

    panamaniacs2011 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello :

    Got a barebone tornado F5 for 440.00 (no cpu , no ram , no gpu) and i want to install a gtx 1080 on it , outside the box (according to the picture seller sent me) it says the laptop came with a gtx 1070. I wrote to eurocom and they responded me the following:

    Gtx 1080 needs different motherboard as mounting holes for gtx 1080 are different. So in order to upgrade you would need to replace both motherboard and GPU. Also you need 330W AC adapter.

    My motherboard has a green pcb , i noticed some tornado F5 laptops which have a gtx 1080 have a black pcb. So the question is my motherboard is upgradeable to gtx 1080 or not? if yes what mods do i need in order to install the gtx 1080 ?

    BTW the laptop is on the way , still dont have it with me.

    Thanks for your time
     
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    mat89 Notebook Guru

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    I'm also interested in it. Also I'm interested if any of new GPU's (1170 possibly?) will be available in MXM format and could be used to replace current 1070 in F5?
     
  3. panamaniacs2011

    panamaniacs2011 Notebook Evangelist

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    in case you guys are wondering why a gtx 1080 ? basically im getting a good deal for a 1080
     
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    Only the GTX 1080 heatsink is needed.
     
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    thanks for your answer !!
     
  6. Mobius 1

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    don't let the people at eurocom hear that
     
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    @Mobius 1 Tell them: Fite me ! :) :)
    BTW i'm bored.
    Should I mod my 1070 to 230W?

    Assuming the GT73VR MUST allow 230W to graphics because it has a 1070 SLI configuration (115W * 2) and a 1080 configuration (150W-slot, 50w power connector), 230W has to be in the power allowance. But is it shared or split up? Either it will work or something will blow up and then I can go buy a Clevo 8700K.
     
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    will it blow up?
     
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    @Mobius 1 I don't know!
    I tried to PM @Khenglish but he hasn't replied in ages. He and @sirgeorge were supposed to test the power delivery system (since no one could find the FETs the MXM slot used, he thinks maybe it didnt use FETs but was always powered on) but i didn't hear anything back from anyone!
     
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    hopefully khenglish reply soon

    for some reason I don't get your @ mentions in the forum notifications
     
  11. Falkentyne

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    You didn't block any of my mentions did you? Maybe a long time ago?
     
  12. sirgeorge

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    As I said in the GT73VR thread - the laptop will have zero problems supplying 230w to one card as MXM GPU's are powered directly from the PSU.

    However you must consider:

    1) You will only have 100w left over from the 330w PSU
    2) You will increase temperature + noise
    3) The MXM voltage regulators will have to deliver double their normal current - which will more than double their waste heat output, so they will be significantly hotter at load.

    As you may know, EVGA desktop cards drawing less than 230w burst into flames due to inadequate cooling.

    But keep everything cool and you may be fine
     
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    @sirgeorge Hi, I never saw your post in the GT73VR thread about this. And you know i read that thread all the time. Can you link me to that?
    and thank you :) Only reason I want to reflash is to get rid of the random voltage drops at power limit. Causes instability sometimes.


    Question:
    Why do you say that the MXM voltage regulators will have to deliver double their normal current? There is a 200W 1080 configuration available on our boards (GTX 1080) as well (even though it uses an Auxiliary power connector), not just 115W * 2 (1070 SLI).
     
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    It may have been in the TDP tweaker thread, I'm not sure.

    The MSI (Black) MXM 1070 TDP is 115w at stock
    When modded to 230w peak draw would be doubled, meaning the VRM (which is on the MXM card) would be worked twice as hard, and thus produce twice as much waste heat.

    The 1080 boards have a different VRM configuration, so aren't comparable.
     
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    @sirgeorge hows your university work going?
    I modded it to 230W but I won't go above 210W. Did a heaven bench at 210W, had a few power limit alerts but went well.
    206W is good enough for PUBG to never hit power limit so I'll keep it there.
    With all the chinese hackers in that game I need all the help I can get, man....

    I think I should be glad or lucky I repadded all the VRM's with Arctic 1mm pads.
     
  16. sirgeorge

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    @Falkentyne going great but I'm very busy, 9-5 labs!

    Yep, the creator of TDP tweaker wasn't able to increase his 3DMark score after about 210W so that's probably the limit for 1.063v.

    The pads are no doubt helping!
     
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