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    Throttling GTX 560M

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Grymelotti, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Grymelotti

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    hi everyone
    I have a little problem, if I play Far Cry 3 or crysis 3 and have terrible throttling but bf3, crysis 2 its Ok,
    i have 306.02 drivers, I've tried 310.06, 306.97, 301.42, and the latest and nothing throttling! HELP
    MSI GT683(stock clock GPU)


    ps: sory for my bad englisch
     
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    310.90 is the lastest WHQL. You've tried those? Just want to be sure. There is also the beta driver.
     
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    No, I will try
     
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    nothing, still the same:/
     
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    I gather you're getting the throttle because of how much strain the two games put on your graphics card, as opposed to Battlefield 3 and Crysis 2, which are not quite as demanding.

    Is it throttling from the moment the game starts? Or does it occur after a few minutes or an hour + of gameplay? Also, check your temps when you get the throttling; you can use HWinfo or GPU-Z and CPU-Z to monitor your thermal activity during the throttling.
     
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    I played about 10-15 minutes, temperature is 78C and throttling start, but sometimes even only 75C
     
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    Hmm, well I don't think 75-78 C is the threshold before throttling kicks in - if anything, your fans should be revving higher before you experience throttling. Are you over clocking? And are you playing on Ultra settings?

    Last few recommendations I have:

    1. Disable any OC'ing, if applicable.
    2. Make sure you have the latest driver - either the 310.90 WHQL or the BETA driver I linked you to.
    3. Reference other programs for your thermal monitoring, and if necessary, clean the fan. If you've had the laptop awhile, you may need to do a repaste, or send it to MSI for one.

    Finally, if you could post your make and model of laptop, that would help myself and others in troubleshooting (hopefully). :)

    There's a small possibility that there is faulty hardware. It could be that the thermal monitoring chip is producing inaccurate temp readings, or that the card itself is the problem. Hopefully that's not the case.
     
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    bios card may be the reason??
     
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    vBIOS should not be the problem. People generally only modify the vBIOS if they want to unlock some sort of potential out of the card, i.e. undervolting.
     
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    The card should not throttle even at 78C (even into the 80s)

    I would look to your CPU temperatures instead.
     
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    I disable eny OC tool, upgrade nvidia driver 310.90 WHQL and still the same ;/ i use gpu-z temp 75-78C

    I also wonder why core clock clock is 810 rather than 814 with enable Msi Nvidia Overclock Tool?
     
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    OK, even today I will give results
     
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    You would see the same fps drop if the cpu throttles you see.
     
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    temperature +/- 30min of playing
    1366x768 everything on high
    the cpu and motherboard have 90+C rather it is a high temp?
    temp.png
     
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    That is getting high, have you cleaned your heatsinks recently?
     
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    Yes maybe a week ago
     
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    Meaker is right - the CPU temp is pushing your luck. If you cleaned the heatsink, check the thermal compound spread and ensure the heatsink was reseated properly.
     
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    I'll try it a better clean out or, i will change thermal paste
     
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    Also make sure none of the thermal pads have rolled up on themselves, this will cause the heatsink to not make propper contact, they need to sit flat.
     
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    I don't change termal pasta, but i sent laptop to msi serwis, reportedly they changed colling system and repair GPU. Temp max 80C but throttling is still ;D
     
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    CPU or GPU is throttling? You should be able to prevent it using Throttlestop. If not, you may need to contact MSI again.
     
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    I used throttlestop and nothing better ;/ but i have one question could correct anything a update bios ??
     
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    Throttlestop only affects CPU not GPU.

    Can you show a picture of the throttling?
     
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    Unlikely. BIOS should not be the cause of any throttling.
     
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    LOL I used older version throttlestop and everything looks good :D

    Thank you guys rep+