***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

Also, something that is VERY important to me....how is the touchpad for you guys??

I recently purchased a very awesome Sager NP9170 with great upgraded specs but am considering returning it due to its RIDICULOUS placement in relation to the home row keys and the incredibly dumb finger print reader.

Really ridiculous. I love the Sager, but the touchpad has been hurting my thumb when I use it and moving the cursor when I type.

 

Please see post #93.......

Really? The touchpad is a Synaptic, much preferred over the Sentelic touchpads, is smooth, sensitive, and responsive. Xotic PC gave good coverage of this in their video review...... a link can be found HERE.

Enjoy your Sager NP9170!

 

Yea it's really unfortunate. The touchpad is quite annoying to the finger print scanner being between the two clickers. I wish that Sager would have thought of that.

But I am a huge touchpad user, and the fact that it gets in the way of both typing and usage is almost too annoying to bear.

Would you say MSI or Sager has a better build quality?

 

You did notice this is the GT70 w/GTX-680M Owner's Lounge, right? GT70 0NE spoken here!

Again, Enjoy your Sager NP9170....

 

Do you guys know if you're able to use the super raid adapter to set up 2 individual msata drives? Like have the 2 msatas but use them as 2 separate drives and not in super raid?

Edit: Thanks a bunch!

 

I would assume the raid controller allows for both JBOD and raid 1 instead of raid 0. I'll ask a buddy of mine who has one.

 

Yes you can, just need to delete RAID in the RAID bios and change SATA mode to AHCI in the system BIOS.

 

Whats everyone doing with their shiny new gt70's? Clean os install or update drivers and go?

 

That sounds like the general concensus! Presently I am considering Ken do a couple upgrades...... MO POWER!, MO POWER!...... Possibly the 480GB Mushkin Atlas X-treme mSATA SuperRAID, a 3820QM, ICD, and a BigFoot. Haven't quite made up my mind yet, but I am thinking, 'WHY NOT'?

 

Someone asked a while ago about how GT70-0NE-416US with Single SSD is setup, here is the picture and BIOS is set to AHCI:

 

FYI:

MSI has added Windows 8 driver downloads to their GT70 0NE site page, and I have also added a link for this in the lead post, HERE.

 

Hey Guys, I just ordered my GT70 276us from Ken and GenTech. I'm super excited to see it arrive next week. My question is there anything that you guys would recommend that I do as part of getting it setup for the first time. And a quick thanks to Striker for all the driver links and other things. Thanks in advance, B Greaud

 

Hey bgreaud! Congratz on your new purchase, and Welcome To The Party!

For starters, just take your time enjoying and familiarizing yourself with the notebook. Once beyond this, you may want to optimize the notebook for better performance. For this, most do a clean install of the Windows OS. Though a little time consuming, this will remove any unnecessary bloatware, orphaned files and DLL's, establish a cleaner file structure, and better optimizes the registry. After this, simply install all the latest necessary drivers, Windows Updates, and the system security/maintenance software of choice.

If you do not desire to do a clean install of the OS..... An alternative to this would be simply uninstalling all unnecessary bloatware, updating all drivers & Windows Updates, and installing the your choice of security/maintenance software. This method will not remove all orphaned files or optimize the systems file structure or registry, but usually there is software available that will do most of this for you.... BUT, herein lies the 'rub'.....

For removal of orphaned files, DLL's, and unnecessary registry entries, a tool such as REVO Uninstaller can be used, HOWEVER, I do not recommend this for novice users.

As to system file structure, this is sure to become fragmented with multiple installations and and uninstallations of system software. Since our system's use the new mSATA SSD technology, it is not recommended that tools such as 'Windows Defrag' (should be turned 'OFF') be used for this purpose..... nor for any SSD for that matter. Normally, SSD manufacturers provide their own 'SSD Tollkits' for this purpose, as well as for SSD firmware updating. As of this writing, I know of no such SSD software support available for our mSATA drives. As such, I have emailed MemoRight and requested information on this. Hopefully I will have clarification on this soon.

ENJOY!

 

So does that mean you can drop in an additional 128gb mSATA SSD later and reconfigure the system to use the super-raid? Or is the mSATA SSD adapter different from the other model? Hrm! School financial aid is tight, trying to squeeze in a 17" GT70 0NE, this might work for now!

 

Examining that adapter, it looks to like a second mSATA SSD will slip in there just fine. All you would need do then, is set the system up for RAID. Since MSI is not making those adapters readily available, I'd say they are worth their weight in gold.

 

Like -=$tR|k3r= said you can just install another mSATA. the adapter is exact same as the Super-RAID model.

 

Awesome, now to place my order with Gentech.

 

I am confused. I attempted to update my audio driver for the GT70-0NE-276US from Realtek version 6.0.1.6549 to 6.0.1.6602. I downloaded from MSI, extracted, and ran the install. It uninstalled the existing driver, rebooted, proceeded to install the new driver, rebooted, and now when I check the version it still shows the original. What gives? I am an ignorant person when it comes to this, so I am sure this is the reason for my misfortune. Thanks in advance for the help.

 

It appears the download file listed as 6.0.1.6602, is actually version 6.0.1.6549. You can verify this by simply launching the driver's 'setup' file again, and you will see the driver version shown in the upper left-hand corner of the Realtek setup screen. At this point, rather than continuing, simply 'Cancel' out of the installation.

I am using the original factory installed driver (..... 6549) and everything seems fine. You can wait for MSI to release a newer update, or optionally you can download the latest release (R2.70) directly from Realtek, HERE. Keep in mind if you chose the Realtek download, the following disclaimer should be considered:

 

See? I told you it was ignorance. Have you updated any drivers since acquiring yours?

 

Hey guys, I'm trying to install another ssd in my optical drive bay. When I slide the Caddy in it shows up in the bios but will not boot. I tried the caddy in the usb external drive case and it works fine. When in the laptop it stays on the del/f11/f3 screen but will not allow me to access any of those options, also if I boot it and then slide it in, it does not show up. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

 

No, not really ignorance, but rather an understandable oversight. The real mistake was on MSI's part, when they misidentified the driver version. No, I haven't updated any drivers yet. The notebook is still fairly new, and everything is working as it should. When I am finshed enjoying it's new car smell, I'll do a fresh OS install, and then go over all the drivers. Right now, I am waiting for NVidia to add 680M support to it's driver program.

 

What is the brand of your SSD? is it OCZ? Have seen quite a few issues with OCZ that it only works on USB.

Have you try it on secondary SATA slot?

 

It's a Kingston ssdnow I used as my boot drive in my retired desktop, haven't tried in the secondary slot yet. I guess I'll give that a try.

 

I have access to Windows 8 final release with my MSDN subscription. Now the drivers are up there has anyone given it a go? I'm keen to know that all the hardware is working sweet on windows 8 and if you did an upgrade or a clean install.
I've installed windows 8 on my older laptop (acer 4820 TG upgraded with SSD) and it is faster than Windows 7 for general use and something I'm really enjoying using as an OS, so dead keen to get make the move, but want to make sure it works sweet before going through the pain of having to reinstall windows 7 should it have problems!

 

New owner here. So glad I held out to get this specific laptop!

Couple questions. I can't log into Games for Windows-Live. I found a thread in NBR here but was wondering if anyone has solved this problem. I'd rather not uninstall the Qualcomm software (one solution).

The nVidia Control Panel seems to be a simplified version on my unit then I'm used to. The left panel only has 3d settings and Video adjustments when other laptop had many other functions for custom resolutions and other settings. I selected to install the software when first booting my laptop. Could there be a better version or is this just a preliminary version because of the newness of the 680m? Better versions in the future?

Also the Turbo button. I was wondering what it actually does. Running CPU-Z and GPU-Z I don't see any changes when activated. I see the CPU core speed changing from 1197.xx MHz to 3193.xx MHz but it does this with or without turbo. I didn't install the Turbo boost monitor yet so is this software needed to run the Turbo function? I'd like to keep this machine as clean as possible so I'm trying not to install software unless I have to.

Fantastic machine!

Thanks for any comments.

 

To get more options in the nvidia control panel you need to down load the Nvidia system tools.
Found here, then agree to the disclaimer.

 

Oddly enough it works in the second sata slot, and the 750 hdd works in the optical drive bay, thanks for the suggestion!

 

Hi dune10191, and Welcome To The Party! Which model did you buy? BTW, it's time to change your SIG!

The change in CPU core speed is a normal function of the 3rd Gen i7, and has nothing to do with the Turbo TDE button.

For the time being, I wouldn't worry about the NVidia Control Panel. Currently, all we have is MSI's early release drivers, and NVidia has yet to add 680M support to it's Verde Driver Program. We should see this soon ..... probably within their next driver package.

Also, I would be patient regarding the Turbo TDE function..... because for now, it offers little to no benefit. Both Ken & I discovered this on day one, and we immediately reported our feedback to MSI. This is why I did not post Turbo (TDE) and AfterBurner OC benchmark screenshots, and I alluded to this in THIS post. It seems MSI's original plan was to play it 'safe' with their 680M models, by limiting or locking the GPU to 'stock' performance via the MB/EC firmware. As such, Turbo (TDE) in 680M models was only intended to provide a 2% boost, but in the final analysis, it's actually far short of 1%.

Keep in mind, the MSI 680M does perform at stock specifications. It is when we attempt to OC the GPU, we see it's code locked.

After numerous benchmark screenshots and multiple email correspondence, MSI was receptive, and agreed to look into the matter. Shortly thereafter, MSI's technical support conducted their own 'in-house' testing, and surveyed their findings with other competing 680M models. As such, the results of this study have been forwarded to MSI's R&D, and we fully expect a new MB/EC firmware (possibly Vbios too) flash on the horizon.

Anyhow, as with all new models, there are things to work out, and we await the usual updates. The GT70 0NE is still an awesome notebook, and even with stock clocks, the 680M is something to behold. From here, it only gets better!

ENJOY!

Thanks for all your support Ken!

 

Hello NBR,
Long time viewer and finally pulled the trigger on a GT70-0NE416US.
Configured additions:
16gb Ram
17.3 Glossy 72%
IC Diamond CPU/GPU
Bigfoot 1202

Now I was super excited in getting this machine, finally received it and I cannot play ANY game using Nvidia driver 302.75 or 306.02. Once any 3d program is ran the machine freezes requiring a hard restart or a BSOD and dumpcheck. I have tried running a game once the machine arrived under the installed windows and then did a clean install with only basic drivers and still the problem persists. I can play indie flash games no problem.. Please help! Thanks NBR!

Error: nvlddmkm.sys

Edit: memory check is good
system file check is good

 

Try reverting back to the original MSI 680M release driver, and see how that works for you. It shouldn't be too much longer before NVidia catches up with 6xxM series support in their Verde driver program.

 

But what I need to figure out is if it is a driver or hardware error. Ill do another clean install and revert back to the supplied drivers on the disk.. Thanks for the reply.

 

Have you first install Intel Graphics drivers and then (without any restart) MSI 680M 302.75 drivers? Also, when going back and forth with drivers (306.02->302.75->306.02 etc.) you really need to uninstall each time the drivers, at least if you're going from a newer driver to an older

I would re-install Windows 7 and chipset, intel graphics and nvidia graphics drivers and you're set (the other drivers can be install without any order and wouldn't matter if you want to test a game quickly to see if that works!)

 

Thanks kindly for the response and work with MSI. brim31 as well.

I got the MsiGT70-ONE-281US with two 64MB SSD's in super raid. Kind of feeling I should have went with the 256GB SSD's now but I guess I will just have to keep an eye on my SSD's so not to fill them up too fast (only 59GB left already). Does Windows ever load quick!

Being so new I guess it is to be expected that things will only improve and mature from here. Still, I'm really impressed with the performance right out of the box. Can't believe the cooling either. Skyrim completely maxed and only 68-73C GPU temp?

Can't wait to see where is goes from here!

 

Hello everyone. This is my first post on these forums, though I have been following it for quite a while.

I just received my stock-configured GT70 from GenTech PC last week, and so far I am very happy with its performance. Still, I am having an annoying problem with it, and I hope that I won't have to send it back just because of it...

The problem is that the "K" key does not work when it's pressed on the sides, and it only reacts when I press directly above it. When I say that it doesn't work on the sides, I mean not the very edges, but even a decent amount up to center as well. I end up missing a bunch of Ks when typing unless I'm very careful.

Do you have any suggestions as to what I can try doing to fix the problem? I know that I could technically live with the problem, but not after paying $2.6k for this machine. Plus, I know that I am still hyped about this lappy right now, and that may overpower the frustration just a bit... But in a few months, this problem will just be annoying.

I really hope that I don't have to send it back, and that there is a way to manually fix this.

Thanks in advance!

P.S.

I tried lifting it up a bit and applying air pressure. Tried pressing it in and rubing it back and forth. So far, no success.
Also, I've read that people were saying something about the Space bar not being sensitive? Mine is actually woring perfectly well, both from the edges and from the center. I now have strong sympathies towards the person with that problem, though, since they may be having the same problem I am having, but with another key.

 

I suppose that is one way of doing it, but I was suspecting you were having an issue with those other drivers. By reverting back to the original 302.75 MSI release driver, this should reveal the story...... driver vs hardware. My thought is your hardware is probably fine. (fingers crossed) NVidia driver installation procedures can be found HERE, in the 'How To' section.

Not to worry..... Get with Ken , and I am sure he will be happy to assist you with this.

 

After another clean install using only drivers found on the supplied disk, its a no-go. The computer now doesn't even recognize the GTX680M and only uses Intel 4000 graphics, now running fan at max with no bios setting to adjust... Used all standard clean install options/ troubleshooting steps. Computer never worked, it seems this machine was DOA or at least the GTX680M. Very frustrating for a sub 3k computer to arrive not in working order.

 

Did you do as pau1ow suggested? If so and you are still having issues, get with your reseller. Who did you purchase the notebook from? DOA's do happen on occassion, but if you purchased from a reliable reseller (as those listed HERE), your problem should be resolved as painlessly as possible.

 

Yes, I did as suggested. Problem is the computer and driver installation software don't recognize the GTX680M. I did purchase from a recommended reseller, troubleshooted and now awaiting options... Any idea why the Fan speed maxes out, even while idle in bios..? Can anyone think of anything else to troubleshoot this? Thanks for all suggestions!

 

Try uninstalling the NVidia driver normally, then use 'Driver Fusion' to flush any remaining orphaned remnants, and then reinstall the MSI release driver.

Let us know how it goes.....

 

I am currently using a fresh install of windows without any nvidia driver installed, only intel chipset/vga, bigfoot is installed. Driver Fusion cannot locate any nvidia drivers and when trying to install MSI release drivers, the software cannot locate the hardware... View attachment 83648

 

Oooooooooo..... another HUGE image forcing me to use the side-to-side slider bar! (can you reduce the images you post?)

Yeah, unfortunately it appears you have a hardware issue. Hopefully it's as simple as re-seating the GPU, but in any event, I would get with your reseller asap. I know this is disappointing, but this happens sometimes. At least when the issue is resolved, I am sure you will be a happy camper.

 

Sorry about the size, didnt think it would be that large. Thanks for the help! Why would the fan be on max? After 30sec into windows it ramps up and never decreases...

 

Ahhhhhh, much better, THANKS!

Yeah, you definately have something going on with the fan too. It can whirl up in bios, but once booted to Windows, it should be quiet. This has me wondering if the fan profile is engaged. When you did your fresh WIN 7 install, did you install the S-Bar 2.0 and NV VGA OC Tool software? Also, you didn't flash the MB bios or EC firmware, did you?

Again, I would get with my reseller ASAP.

 

No I have not installed S-Bar or NV VGA OC Tool yet... No I didnt flash anything. Before out of the box, it would benchmark BSOD and upon restart computer was only showing intel 4000 graphics and required another restart to show Nvidia GTX680M. After the last BSOD, cant get the computer to recognize the 680M. Im done troubleshooting, going to wait for reseller response. Thanks!

 

Ooooooooooo, a BSOD strait from the box? I must have missed that! Yeah, you have something major wrong there. You are making the right choice getting with the reseller. They should assist with repairing or replacing the notebook ASAP. I bet the next notebook you receive will be top-notch..... I feel your pain....... I hate seeing anyone go through this, but it happens. Hang in there! Who was the reseller?

 

Sorry to hear that you have keyboard issues, I saw your email and already replied, will arrange new keyboard for you on Tuesday.

 

I have the exact same problem. I was running furmark, the gpu wasn't even hot (72°)
All of a sudden the machine BSOD rebooted and then the system couldn't find the 680m.
I think I may have cooked it but the temps weren't even in the danger zone.
I empathize with you man...

By the way, the max fan issue is because your system thinks there is no card in the slot.
I took mine out the other day, reconnected the fan and booted it with just the integrated graphics and yeah, fan is on high.

 

That sucks! I spent almost an entire 2 days troubleshooting and trying different installs. Was definitely DOA, temps didnt even get a chance to warm up before BSOD. Looks like it is good luck to us both!

 

Yeah fingers crossed eh?
I have stuck mine in the freezer for a week, hear me out, I had a 8800GTX years ago that I ruined by overclocking too far. I stuck it in the freezer for a week and lo and behold the card actually worked again.
In fact I still have that card somewhere and it still works ( I didn't want to sell it in case it played up again but it never did.)
I realize it is an unorthodox method but it worked for me that one time.
Hopefully I can resurrect this beast...:thumbsup: