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    TV Tuner for the 1651/1722.

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by diablo2k, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. diablo2k

    diablo2k Notebook Guru

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    I noticed both of these laptops have places for a internal TV tuner. I was wondering what TV tuners you all are useing and wheres a good place to get them.
    I am also wondering about the antenna socket on the outside of the case, I seen a pic where someone had an antenna hooked up but had to use 3 adapters or more to get from the Laptops plug, to a standard cable, is there an easier solution?
    Of Course ATSC is a must for a TV tuner as NTSC will no longer work jhere really soon.
     
  2. aan310

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    I believe that the USA version actually did not...
    So... i'm going to have to say :(
     
  3. zfactor

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    i have a tv tuner for mine but im looking for the adapter for the antenna plug. it recognised the card and i installed the drivers. but i dont have a antenna yet
     
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    wait, so you get digital channels over the air even with out an antenna or no?
    i might want to buy one from you too :D xD
     
  5. zfactor

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    no i dont get anything without the antenna. i need the right adapter for it. i was able to install the driver though and it saw the card installed.
     
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    o_O
    (10char)

    hmm, well, i must have been wrong any way...
    I should PM this, but (depending on the wife factor) will mine have a slot for the tuner and an antenna slot? (for down the road xD)
     
  7. diablo2k

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    Both the 1651 and 1722 have a internal connector for a TV Tuner as well as a external plug for an external antenna.

    It is actually just a normal mini PCIe slot, but both models have one available w/ the external antena wire ran to it.
     
  8. zfactor

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    yeah they all have the pci-e slot and antenna connector but the antenna connector is odd compared to the normal tuner antenna's out there
     
  9. diablo2k

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    I am doing alot of googling ad I have found a couple interesting finds, one of them come back to this forum.
    this is suppose to be the adapter cable you need z83V TV cable

    Here is a thread with pics of the adapter.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=219086 has pics of the adapter and more.
    It seems that one of the most poputlar cards I am finding being used is the Avermedia A312 Mini Pci-E TV FM NTSC Atsc Tuner Card Has antenna listed in the items included. I can't seem to find a retail package for this, only OEM links.

    It seems a few USB TV Tuners also use this connection and come with smaller antenna that hook directly up to them. i might try and get one of these and use the antenna with the internal TV tuner.

    Please Note, I do not yet have my Laptop or any of the items I linked to, so I can not gaurentee that they will work. As soon as I recieve my Laptop I will be able to try out the adapters.
     
  10. zfactor

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    wish i could see a pic of that adapter to see if its what we really need
     
  11. diablo2k

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    I found this pic http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9151/f3svantennazc6.jpg of a differant model but same brand (asus). it shows the plug fairly well. can you tell if it is the same as the MSI one? If it is then the adapter cable "should" work.
     
  12. zfactor

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    thats the one thank you!!
     
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    I showed my brother (expert) the antenna port on the exterior of the laptop ... he commented that it was similar to those used on some gps devices and should neither be expensive or difficult to locate.
     
  14. zfactor

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    yeah im going to call my vendor tomm to see if they carry the adapter
     
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    Is it possible to somehow use S-video for the Avermedia A312 Mini Pci-e TV FM NTSC ATSC Tuner Card? it has s-video and RCA jack, I was wondering is of it was possible to put these jacks into the MS-1651's case?
     
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    now all we need to find is one that does QAM in addition and itll be a complete deal.

    Ive also been doing some diggin of my own into these tuners at MSI's site. This is a direct answer i received from Kworld about the tuners mentioned at MSI:

    This MC810 product is form OEM Department.



    The below is the OEM engineer answer.



    F.Y.I



    Thanks



    KWorld Service




    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: FAE_Peter [mailto :p[email protected]]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:44 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: KWorld Digital MC810 questions



    MC810 is a USB interface, mini card type, pure DVB-T tuner device.



    The IC solution is totally the same as UB385-T / UB397-T.



    Usually it is bundled with NoteBook.



    So far we did not sell it in retail market.



    Main Features

    MiniCard design for Notebook with minicard slot
    Supports Digital TV (DVB-T)
    Supports High Definition (HDTV) Digital channel
    Supports EPG, Teletext, subtitle, time-shifting and schedule recording functions
    Low power consumption
    Compatible with Windows Media Center
    Features:

    · USB 2.0 plug & play

    With NXP latest silicon tuner (TDA18211) for RF receptions
    Watch free digital terrestrial TV and listen to free digital radio (not DAB) on PC
    DVB-T is fully compatible with Microsoft Media Center
    Specifications:



    Interface
    Mini Card interface --- USB2.0

    TV Tuner
    75 Ohm (UHF / VHF) TV Antenna
    Coaxial RF

    Digital TV system
    Frequency
    170.5 ~858 MHz tuning range

    Transmission Mode
    2K FFT or 8K FFT COFDM demodulator (Fully DVB-T compliant : ETS 300-744)

    Code Rate
    1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6 and 7/8

    Guard Interval
    1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32

    Constellation
    QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM

    Bandwidth
    6, 7 or 8 MHz

    Dimension
    Mini Card
    50.80mm(W) x 29.90mm(L) * 1.0mm(H)

    (+- 5 mil)

    Power Consumption
    DTV operation
    1.32W

    Idle
    0.32W
     
  18. NIVO

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    and here is the exact email response from MSI:

    Please ask MSI authorized branch office for detailes.Below is the address and the telephone no.

    MSI Computer Corp.
    Address:901 Canada Court City of Industry, CA 91748
    TEL:+1-626-913-0828
    FAX:+1-626-913-0818

    Best Regards,
    MSI Notebook Technical Support

    so i didnt get really get anywhere as i havent called MSI, but there you have some more knowledge than previously.
     
  19. diablo2k

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    I have ordered a couple parts off e-bay that I think will work with the MSI Antenna connector.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=280306824919 and http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=270350364425
    Not sure how well they will work as I dont have my laptop yet and it will be a while before I can get a tuner for it as well. I figure as long as they fit the connector they should work ok for picking up local channels over the air.
     
  20. zfactor

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    yeah the msi has the smaller connector. please keep everyone posted if that will work. i tried ordering the part from asus but they sent me a email saying it was out of stock with no further info and my card was never charged.
     
  21. zfactor

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    this one works perfect i ordered one and it works fine for those wondering

    you will need one of these:

    http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=DV...trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=DVB-T&_osacat=0
     
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    hmm vista cant find any antenna hooked up.. maybe this will not work..
     
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    I THINK YOU NEED THIS . SEE PIC
     

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    thats what i have antenna wise it looks just like that and does not see it either
     
  25. cbl12886

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    Wouldn't it just see the tuner card an not the antenna? or are you not getting any reception?
     
  26. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    That antenna is an analog broadcast antenna which I think no longer exists in the USA. The ATSC (digital) antenna is a wide plastic model.
     
  27. zfactor

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    hmm ill have to see if i can source one. i do get channels though rob but they are very poor reception wise and if i unplug the antenna i have i get nothing so i know its working but media center does not recognize it for some reason,

    also the disc that came with my tuner (out of a sager 5793 and its a hybrid digital one) says i need the serial to install the tuner program but i have tried every number on the card and the box and none work they all say invalid serial so i have just been using media center. the drivers installed fine
     
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    my tv card work fine with this antenna nero 9 fines atsc & analog channels.
     

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    Where did you get that antenna?
     
  30. diablo2k

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    Despite what people tell you there is no differsnce between an NTSC and ATSC antenna. You will see "Digital" antenna advertised but theres is no differance between them. It is all just a marketing gimmic.
     
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    ebay $4.00
     
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    link please? and is your tuner a hybrid model or digital only etc?? thanks
     
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    thanks ill try that antenna im using a different card but it says it does both analouge and digital
     
  35. diablo2k

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    I am ordering it as well, be nice to use one that doesn't require adapters. How does someone sell an item for $3 w/ free shipping 1/2 way around the world?
     
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    very carefully...
     
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    Probably by having a shipping deal with the post office.