Strange Low temperatures while gaming (GT73VR 7RE)

Hi all, recently I bought a GT73EVR 7RE Titan (i7 7700HQ + GTX 1070), the laptop works perfectly but I saw that the temperatures are (maybe?) too low even while gaming with 100% usage on both CPU and GPU.

The laptop never exceed 60º (62º on CPU and 57 GPU)with any game and any stress program, CPU runs at 3,4-3,8GHz and the 1070 at his maximun (stock)

I've use different programs and even the dragon center shows the same temperature, is this normal?



Testing with 2 games

 

Can you test it with FurMark and Prime95? Or any other tool designed to push the system to unrealistic levels, then we will truly see the real cooling performance of your laptop.

 

What are your ambient temps? They are not that... impossible. 7700HQ runs low enough in clockspeeds and overall power consumption. My CPU reaches 80 or 90s depending on my overclock, but generally consume twice as much power as what your screen shows, so I think the low power is the reason for such low temp.

If you live in a cold place, it would explain the temps too. During winter, It's hard to get high temps on this monster machine.

 

100% normal.
My GT73VR was the EXACT SAME.

115W TDP locked GTX 1070 will not exceed 55C with 100% fan speed and 65C with automatic fans.
7700HQ is also running at a very low 4 core frequency of 3.4 ghz.
GT73VR was designed for 7820HK systems. You're most likely using a GT73EVR (although SOME versions of MAY HAVE BEEN (Unconfirmed) version GT73VR also had a 7700HQ, using EC firmware 17A1EMS1.108 rather than 17A1EMS1.112).

Hell even my GT72VR which had worse cooling, had frosty CPU temps.
I also don't know your default VID either. If your default VID is like 0.9v at 3.4 ghz, you're going to run cool.

 

CPU temps are normal. GPU temps are a bit 2 low 2 to true tho.

 

This is a high performance system with excellent thermal capacity, plus it's winter time so the numbers are good.

 

Yeah, temps after about 9-10 minutes of Prime95 + Furmark (stock fans)

Yes, my house is pretty cold in winter, but even that, I can't believe how good is the cooling of this laptop, what an improvement over my old GT70.

Thanks!

Good, thanks a lot.

My old laptop was a GT70 with i7 4930MX and it was a lot more warmer than this, I'm surprised at how good thermal has this 73 under full load.

Thanks guys

 

Well, Intel said 100°C in max load is fine, so i would be concerned your CPU being 30°C under. Something must be wrong in the manufacturer's cooling.
I think you should ask for a refound and buy an Alienware 17R4 instead.

 

You should use HWinfo64, rather than CPUID monitor. Much more useful information in HWinfo64. Also consider running Throttlestop 8.50.

I believe your CPU reached throttling point during the test. It has a 45w TDP, and prime95 will exceed this. You can see your max load was 49W, which will trigger PL2 throttling.
Since this TDP cannot be avoided on the HQ processors, you can use Throttlestop and in the FIVR area, set an undervolt of -100 for CPU cache and CPU Core. Then test. This will drop temps and also should always keep you under TDP. If you wind up seeing instability, try -75mv and try again.

Also in the future, don't run furmark on laptops. It doesn't do anything and has destroyed desktop video cards before. As of now, the Nvidia and AMD drivers detect furmark and actually forcibly throttle the GPU (which is done at the driver level so you cant detect it) to cut the load. This has been done for years, but even the throttled version has some risk. OCCT PSU test does something similar (furmark type code + linpack). If furmark were actually stressing the laptop (or desktop) card as designed, the temps would get up to 80C. But the drivers cut the calculations down which keeps the temps lower, because in the old days, people would burn out VRM's with unthrottled furmark.

Usually on these laptops, when total system power gets very close to the max rating for the system (230W for GTX 1070, 330W for gtx 1080), it will borrow power from the battery (this is called NOS, and is completely unneeded and unwanted on these newer laptops; a byproduct of when 180W PSU's were substandard, were prone to dying, and the system would draw more than 180W so they had to combine with battery), however, when running OCCT PSU test, you will notice even if you're drawing 300W to the system or 200W (GTX 1070 or 1080), there is no battery boost at all, because of the driver level throttling going on (which I believe confuses the EC). But I'm getting off topic here.

The only way to see TRUE stress load with furmark is to rename the binary to Quake3.exe or Unrealtournament.exe (since throttling detection was done by name; whether this is still true or not, I don't know). Do NOT try that on a laptop!

 

Oh the humour, i can feel it

 

I think you bought too good of a laptop with an actually well thought out cooling system, its the only logical answer I can give you, if the card performs like any other 1070 and you checked in 3DMark etc that your score is consistent with other equivalent hardware then yeah its actually just cooling it THAT well, most likely your CPU is also delided.

 

@ CyborgR170

Congratulations, you won the silicon lottery! Hurrah!

Noize.

 

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Nice catch.

 

Furmark is throttled by the driver anyway. You can tell by seeing the GPU load at 100% but the clocks extremely low, while the TDP is extremely high. While I would never recommend furmark, OCCT PSU test can determine whether your CPU and GPU is stable when overclocked together (OCCT PSU test seems to run a furmark type program + linpack). It may be safe these days to run furmark if the driver is throttling it. One thing that is not safe is to rename the furmark binary, as that will let it run at full speed without the driver throttling it. It being unthrottled was what killed desktop video cards back in the day.