Ryzeki's MSI 17626 Barebone with GTX680m Review

Man, this is what I get for finishing this review so late... I forgot to put REVIEW on the thread title! damm!

Anyways, I will add more info to the review per request, if time/work allows me to. I acquired a Windows 8 license so I might go ahead and install it.

Introduction
Greetings! Some of you may know me already, some have never heard of me, but I bring you my review for the MSI barebone edition, model 1762, specifically 176262-033 according to the MSI page. The easy version: This is the latest GT70 type barebone/whitebook laptop from MSI.

I am a previous MSI and Asus owner. My previous main machine was the quite famous model GX660R. This particular model was known for being one of the few 15inchers with high end GPU and specially due to its still amazing sound system. Even over 2 years later, it rocks after abuse on the field (being a field engineer and all) and with some upgrades it manages to stay relevant on all fronts. This speaks good for the recent build quality of MSI and I expect just as much from this new one.

Why did I go ahead and bought this new laptop? I wanted an upgrade for my graphics card. I was waiting to upgrade to the new AMD HD7970m which has an amazing performance/price ratio, and thus at first I wasn't even considering buying a new machine, let alone one with the powerful GTX680m as it comes with a heftier pricetag. But... as time went on, and money was saved up, lo and behold, a barebone model appeared.

As always, I acquired my machine thanks to Ken from Gentech. I have dealt with GentechPC in numerous occasions, each and every time a fast, smooth and excellent experience. Ken particularly is fast to respond as customer support, and gives the best support I have experienced, be it testing machines, bios, sales etc you name it. My previous machine was bought from them, so I had them on sight for my next purchase. I highly recommend them for any laptop you may need, since they now handle the best brands and models, specially for gaming. Moreover you can contact them here in the forums!

-Specs as ordered:
CPU: Intel Core i7 3610M
Chipset: Intel HM77
Memory: 8GB DDR3 @ 1600 Mhz
Screen: 17.3” 1920x1080 (16:9 ratio) model CMO1720
Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX680m 4GB GDDR5 with ICD24 thermal paste
Hard Drive: 2 x 512GB Crucial M4 in RAID-0
Optical Drive: Optiarc Blu-ray ROM BC-5540H
Wireless: Bigfoot Killer Wireless N 1202 with Bluetooth 4.0
Audio: Sound system with 2 Speakers and 1 subwoofer by Dynaudio.
Warranty: 1 year standard factory warranty
I/O connection: 3 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0, eSATA, HDMI, S/PDIF, Line in, Line out, Mic in, VGA, Ethernet, card reader


- What's in the Box:
Unlike my previous machine, this barebone was packed in a much more subtle and down to earth manner. Instead of screaming LOOK AT ME I AM A GAMING MONSTER! I was received with a modest, even generic, package, which held everything in place nicely and strongly. My package traveled around the US and then I brought it back to Mexico, so the packaging works as nothing was damaged, everything working as expected.
As for the contents: Well it comes with standard manuals and references, including discs for the basic drivers needed to install everything, and of course, the machine with its AC adapter. Baring in mind that this is a barebone, it does not come with an OS on stock.

-Design and Build Quality
I have to say this is one good looking laptop. Its low profile looks, along with a touch of blue leds, set this machine's impressive aesthetics. The aluminum palmrest finish is a nice touch to keep on an otherwise hard plastic machine. The carcass is the same found in the 17.3 inch models for a while now, very similar layout to the 16F1 machine I had. The build quality is very good, the computer feels strong yet lighter than what the volume might lead you to believe.

The only downside is the moderate flex on the screen bezel, which it feels as mostly as empty space protecting the screen. The flex does not distort the LCD image unless you apply moderate force, so it does its job. The complete screen bezel is made of plastic as well, but the back cover has a "brushed" matte finish that looks superb. I am impressed at how good this machine looks!
The lack of logos is something I am liking a lot. It looks like a very smooth, powerful and serious machine. I'd say it's the best looking machine I have owned so far, in general aesthetics.



- Screen
The stock screen is a matte finish, full HD resolution 1920x1080 pixels in a 16:9 ratio. It's a fairly standard resolution for this screen size but one that computers now a days should have improved upon. I think this is a good resolution, but I could use a bit higher in this 17.3 format. This is by no means a bad screen, not MSIs fault, it's a general laptop's/market/s fault as the consumer rarely demands higher res screens. Unless certain fruit brands decide to release a dramatically huge resolution, then everyone wants one...

Back on the review! This is a great stock screen. Colors, viewing angles, matte finish, brightness, everything is good! I am used to lower quality stock screens but I was pleasantly surprised this time. As far as I know, this is the same stock screen on previous GT70 models, so it won't be a new a screen for everyone.

While the general quality of the screen is good, the areas of improvement are mainly the viewing angles. You won't have much problem using the sweet spot, but after using high quality displays for some years now, you tend notice these things more. I am very happy with my stock screen, and unlike previous machines, I see no need to change this one.

Some users will likely change this screen for a higher gamut screen, or even a glare finish one, but I think the average user will be more than pleased with its performance.



-Keyboard
Simply amazing. The keyboard uses a now well known chiclet distribution, and a now standard backlight functionality. Unlike stock models, this barebone implements a blue led only backlight with 4 levels of intensity. The blue illumination blends with the overall look and leds of the machine. As for the keyboard quality, you can expect little to no flex across the area, strong feedback with satisfying input feel, and a general robust feel to the keyboard.

It really has no downsides on its own, as any would be now personal preference to the distribution of keys. At first I found it odd that the Windows Key was located on the right side of the keyboard, since I am quite used to find the key on the left side. That's not a real downside, just a matter of preference. This is an excellent keyboard that contributes to the design and looks of the machine, while being perfectly functional and exceeding expectations. While writing this review, I noticed no missing keystrokes nor any particular issue.



-Performance and User Experience:
Stock performance is nothing short of incredible. Even the lower end quad core of the ivy bride family, paired with the 680m and SSD technology, the machine simply screams past anything thrown at it. Multitasking is exceptional, gaming performance is basically the highest currently available for single GPU solutions. Gaming, browsing, productivity software, all of it is done smoothly, quickly and effectively.

While this big laptop still uses a single fan solution, thanks to ivy bride and Optimus from nvidia, it is a silent machine when browsing or being productive. Only when gaming do you even hear the fan starting to speed up, and even then I haven't really been bothered.

Windows Experience index is a silly measurement at this point. My current score is 7.3, though when I first installed windows, it was 6.8 due to the GPU. Drivers upped that. But why is it still silly? Because my older laptop has the same score. I come from a powerful Core i7 920xm overclocked, RAID 0 SSDs and a still decent HD5870m. Even with my overclocked CPU and GPU, I fail to reach anywhere near the performance of the Core i7 3610m and GTX680m. Sometimes the difference in gaming alone is nearly 3 times the performance difference, if not more. But windows decided that they are around the same level.

A feature I praised on previous MSI machines, and one found on my older laptop, is the capability of fan control with the turbofan feature. At the touch of a button, you can set the maximum speed of you fan to keep things real cool. When gaming, specially with headphones, you won't even hear the fan that much and it ensures you complete cool temps while gaming. Personally, thanks to Optimus and now much more efficient architectures on both CPU and GPU, I don't need to use it. But this feature will sure come in handy when playing the overclocking game!

I found no Turbo buttons for either CPU or GPU. I was told that the barebones model do not include such capability. I will tell you, you are missing nothing. If you really want to overclock, you will have much more satisfaction and performance from independent tools. Performance gains from manufacturer's stock software is almost negligible 99% of the time.

This machine was made for maximum performance in gaming. And it shows. You can finally game on native res and the highest settings, and still have a playable game. It's incredible. It does pack that feeling of a desktop, in mobile form.

Now onto some benchmarks and gaming!

3dmark11 overclocked 900/2200
P6936


The Witcher II
Settings:1920x1080 ultra spec/Ubersamble disabled
FPS Min: 13/39, max: 22/58, average: 16/45
comments:Just wow. This game absolutely murders the system, bringing the monster 680m to its knees. Surprisingly, while choppy, it kinda feels playable due to motion blur and the game being an RPG game. Using the same ultra spec, but disabling ubersampling alone, your fps bumps to an average of 45 fps. This is one of the key new games that require a powerful system to enjoy at their full settings, and it's impressive to see the 680m even managing double digit fps with ubersampling. Recommended: Just remove ubersampling and enjoy strong fluid performance.

Metro 2033 DX11 very high settings with OC 810/2200
Avg fps: 45.35


Metro 2033 DX11 very high settings stock
Avg fps: 41.82


Metro 2033 DX11 High settings OC 810/2200
Avg fps: 65


Metro 2033 DX11 High settings
Avg fps: 59


Comments: I am quite amazed to be running this game almost maxed so smoothly. My HD5870m struggled with medium settings at 30fps, often having to drop to DX9... anyways, regarding the performance of 680m in DX11 the fps drop from High to Very high is noticeable, going from 60fps average to 45, so I would recommend playing on high. The difference in eye candy is not that large to justify a 15 fps drop on average.

Lost Planet 2 Test A DX11 Highest settings, 2 x MSAA


Lost Planet 2 Test B DX11 Highest settings 2 x MSAA


Lost Planet 2 Test A Overclocked 810/2200


Dirt 3 Highest settings 2xAA


Dirt 3 Overclocked 810/2200


Warhammer 40k Dawn of War II Ultra spec Overclocked 810/2200



-Battery life
When looking at a gaming notebook, battery life is usually not important, because of the high power components it requires. Little by little, this has changed. With the introduction of efficient architectures, gaming computers enjoyed typically 2.5 hours of battery life for general use. Thanks to further improvements, in the form of Optimus, we now have gaming machines that have nearly 4.5 hours of use.

With a single charge, half brightness and wireless on, casual browsing you can reach typical 4 hours of battery life. This is quite a huge improvement for these types of monster machines. There isn't much to say here only that you get enough juice to be productive or kill some time on the net.
Just don't do any gaming, That will kill you in less than an hour usually.
Overall and excellent battery life, specially for a gaming machine.

-Heat and noise:
As previously mentioned, thanks to new technology and fabrication process, current CPUs and GPUs perform much more efficient than ever. Temperatures for general use are fairly low. Doing this review I had an average of 41 degrees Celsius on my CPU, 32 for my GPU. The laptop remained cool throughout. Even when gaming, The hightest for the GPU so far is around 81 Celsius, and my CPU on the 70s, the palmrest does not get hot, just warm.

For a single fan solution, the cooling is great and works as intended. While a single fan might be noisier than other solutions, it is no less effective in this machine. If you have an additional cooler, then you will have a cool running machine even when heavy gaming.

I recommend the Cooler Master U2 at least. Excellent cooling, quality and versatility to adjust fan position.

These are my regular temps after gaming for hours


-Sound System
One of the highlights of the MSI laptops now, is the inclusion of Dynaudio sound system. The system is made of a 2.1 setup (2 speakers, 1 subwoofer) and tweaked software with presets/settings for different types of audio quality output. The quality of dynaudio speakers is great. Once you get used to the crystal clear clarity and good performance, loudness, and bass, it's hard to return to generic laptop speakers. Gaming feels more immersible, and watching a movie is more enjoyable than ever. To be honest, after experiencing these speakers for the first time in my previous machine, I simply can't settle for less.
The only thing I did notice between my previous MSI GX660R and my new one, is that my older laptop is slightly louder. Quality is outstanding on both, but I loudness i'd say it's a bit higher on my previous machine.

-Warranty
This is an important part, for this particular laptop type. Unlike stock models which come packed to the teeth in features regarding warranty, barebones only enjoy the standard 1 year parts and labor warranty. This is somewhat of a bummer, but it is expected fully because unlike stock models, you tend to install everything yourself. Instead of getting a single channeled warranty through MSI, you will only have warranty with the barebone itself, no additional components installed, so remember to keep your tickets/warranties for anything you install on this bad boy.

-Conclusion
Quoting my own conclusion on my previous MSI: "This is an amazing machine. From the specs to build quality even aesthetics, overall performance make this a superb deal for the price!"
I heavily recommend this machine, not only for the awesome looks and build quality, but for the performance potential it packs. For gamers, this is an amazing deal in price/performance. This is simply among the best machines you can get, period.

Get this if:
-You want to run games at the maximum settings, and best performance for its price.
-You want need the current absolute best GPU on the market.
-You want excellent sound quality from your laptop.
-You want a gaming laptop with 4+hours of battery life.

Avoid if:
-You need mobility (size is big, even if weight isn't as much).
-nVidia's GTX680m makes your wallet cry.


Thanks for taking the time to read my review! Feel free to comment on anything you want regarding the laptop, and ask any questions you want! I will try to answer ASAP.

I accept any suggestions for benches, games etc that you wish to see running.

 

Great review!

I can`t wait to try out my GT70 next week. I couldn`t have bought the barebone model though since its so anonymous lol. I proudly boast the MSI logo on mine but yeah, each to its own.

BTW, the temperature screenshot, is that with the Cooler Master or without?

 

Thanks!

That is with the cooler master and GPU OC 810/2200. Generally 80s seems to be the highest temps while gaming, as I haven't really seen higher than that. This is only for games that tax the system 100% all the time without vsync, generally I have less temps. Furmark on the other hand gets my card up to 90C.

Also, keep in mind my ambient temperature here is near 30 C so it's not entirely cool around here. My previous GX660R with HD5870m had slightly higher temps while gaming.

And yeah, the stock model does not look bad at all. I also like it, but I guess I was surprised at how good this looks in person. Specially the finish of the cover, the picture doesn't do justice, as the brushed finish feels good and looks good. I would have loved equally the aluminum finish on stock GT70 machines.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that without using the cooler, I got 82C highest temp playing Crysis 2. The cooler helps a bit on the GPU, but it helps with overall temps and touch/feel, not to mention idle temps or when being productive.

 

Great review! And congratulations for the new machine! Had you tried overclock more the gtx 680m around 900-1000? Do you know if the msi cooling system can manage that?

 

Very nice Ryzeki! You have done MS-1762 BareBoners proud! Good Job! :thumbsup:

 

Thank you! I haven't tried overclocking over 900mhz core at the moment. With 900mhz core my 3dmark11 was nearly 7k, so I can imagine the performance near 1ghz core. For gaming, 900+ clocks would be around 85C so they should be manageable if you get a good thermal paste, but things like furmark are going to murder your system hahaha. I tried the Saltius vbios with 900/2400 memory, but it was overvolted and at least on furmark it downclocked on me with temp reaching 93C. I will test with gaming to see how it fares.

Personally, if you see at the scores I obtained, a slight core OC with a moderate memory OC yielded around 10% performance improvement. I am happy with current performance and I doubt gaming wise you will see that much increase further other than an additional 10% on top of that.

Thanks! I hope I can sport my proud bareboner around so that people can see how amazing it is! haha

I wish us bareboners can get the firmware to stop CPU throttling soon It hardly affects me right now but I am sure I will bump into something eventually.

 

Did you get the stock thermal paste or upgrade it to the diamond thermal? I'm definitely considering this laptop , but I'm waiting to see if there will be a black Friday sale.

 

Ah very nice, almost as strong as mine

Great stuff man, you should go 32GB of RAM @1866 if you want speed instead of 256GB in RAID0... I RAM cached my SSD and games like MW3 and BF3 take 5 ~ seconds to load (even though I had to launch it sometimes to make it cache)

 

Thank you!

Haha yeah though I read some benches of RAM and I noticed there is very little benefit over 1600mhz speed, when gaming is concerned. I haven't updated but I got another 8 GB so I have 16GB at 1600mhz. And I have dual 512 GB so I have 1024GB of SSD goodness! haha, i'd take that over 32GB of RAM any day

I got it with IDC24 thermal paste upgrade. Stock works but I prefer getting better thermal paste as I tend to overclock etc. This is a great machine and you should definitely get it! I hope you get a sale but you can always keep in touch with resellers to see how things are looking for black friday

Cheers!

 

Fair enough

Different needs surely, I have a 256GB m4 though, looking to add some giant HDD's tomorrow so I'll be fine.
Getting a read of 5,9K mb/s though with RAM cache

 

Hi Ryzeki,
Which gtx680m vbios are you used？
Is it Saltius/SVL VBIOS,or just you modded it yourself ??
Would you sent me your vbios for me??

 

I am using Saltius's custom vbios he made. They are overclocked very slighly on the core, and +400mhz total memory from 1800 to 2200mhz. The key part of this vbios is that they use stock voltage. I had tried the 900/2400 vbios with slightly overvoltage but they ran too hot for my tastes.

PM me your mail so I can send them to you.

 

Too hot? What temps did you get? I max'd at 69 *C with my 680M, 950/2500 (furmark 15 min) although I've got a U3 + loads of copper heatsinks and a awesome paste...

 

wondering who did it that well really..

 

I wish I had those temps, I have no mods, extra heatsinks etc. Max temp is 93°C before the GPU auto downclocks so it never exceeds that temp for me. I have considered repasting, but since when I game I never really exceed 81°C I never really bothered to do so. I might one of these days, to see if I can improve temps.

The original vbios has automatic downclocking with furmark so it barely had 78°C max temp. Saltius's overvoltage reached 93°C within the minute.

 

No wonder it can withstand such OC at super cool temps haha.

 

But to be fair I have a very cool ambient temp here too so it does do a difference, ~4 *C difference.

 

True, tho right now ambient temperature is cool, I still am going to try repasting probably this weekend! If I can get even cooler temp, then fine by me

 

delete my email address
thx for yor advise!!

 

Info sent, but I don't think it's a good idea to be posting your email so openly here!

To send PMs just click the name of the user you wish to PM on any of their posts and select private message. An alternative is to directly go to private message on your control panel of this site, and type the usename of the destination. That's it!

 

Must admit, a really good review, I enjoyed reading it again

 

Thanks jaug1337! I enjoyed writting it, and I wish the thread would get more popularity haha.

I want to add content but right now I can't think of relevant material. Any suggestions, benches etc, are welcomed!

The current plan is repasting and retesting temps etc. If repasting proves to improve my temps significantly so, I will up my overclock to match my new temps.

 

I would recommend buying some copper heatsinks too! They really do wonder, especially once you turbofan the whole shebang

 

Do you or pau1ow have the specs of them copper heatsinks? I wouldn't mind modding both my new and previous machine.

 

Thanks for the review I cant decide if I want the 675m or 680m

in this model Xplorer X7-8100 Gaming Notebook: Xplorer X7-8100 Gaming Notebook
After sale the difference in price is 1287 vs 1659 difference of 372

upgrades are 16gb ram, 750gb 7200rpm hd, win 8 pro.

 

Thanks for reading! As for the 675m vs 680m, I can tell you that there is a significant upgrade in performance. That wouldn't mean that with 675m you can't play games, because you certainly can and easily, but 680m will play them better or enable for more eye candy, not to mention last longer as a gaming option.

I faced the same dilemma before, but I personally think it was worth it to invest in 680. The only other choice to consider, for me, would be HD7970m. These new GPUs are easily on a league of their own, and will become more relevant as new pc games come out.

I mean, 680m is expensive. SSDs are expensive. But trust me, after using SSDs and high end GPUs, I have a hard time going back down. They are an investment that pay off in ease of use, less frustration figuring out what you can or can't play etc, smoothness and fast response for everything.

Just my two cents I would definitely jump for the 680m.

Maybe you can talk to some resellers here to get some deals?

 

Sure, HERE you go

 

very great review! ^_^
i read it many times and it still interests me
makes me want to upgrade the gpu

 

Well I bit the bullet and got the 680m . Lets hope its worth it lol.
No more looking, configuring, wishing and hoping to get something good at a good price. Done deal.
It basically came down to the 680m extending the life of the laptop, it runs cooler and has more ram, dx11.1.

This is to replace my 5 year old gateway p-6831-fx with an 8800m gts which I loved. So I'm sure this will last a long time too.
The final push was while I was looking at laptops, my laptop actually artifacted. It did this a bunch of times 2 summers ago and then only on rare occasion so I never replaced it.
But I said ya know what? if i miss these sales and this thing ends up dying I'm gonna be real upset with myself being so indecisive lol. So just get it and be done and thats what I did. Now I can have some fun.

 

congratulation!!gudluck with the installation
gtx 680m sure will last much longer compared to 675m, pretty much good investment
now you can play everything on max :O

 

thank you and yes I can now run everything on max instead of tweaking everything downwards trying to find the best setting lol

 

Thanks! At first I was confused because of the language, but I wrote down the specs!

Thanks for reading! It's an interesting machine. The more I use it, the more it grows on me. I can hardly get back to my previous machine, because using the old one I just notice all the improvements! Performance is beastly, and if you can afford it, the GPU is amazing. Both current end GPUs by nVidia and AMD are such powerhouses.

I know that feeling man! Well done, I am sure you will love your machine Performance is top notch, and if you find a game you can't play, chances are, no machine can play it hahaha. I enjoy maxing games, and when I deal with heavy hitters like Metro2033, they even show playable framerate, it's amazing. If you are coming from an 8800m GTS you are going to have a massive upgrade, over the charts.

Thanks! At first I was confused because of the language, but I wrote down the specs!

Thanks for reading! It's an interesting machine. The more I use it, the more it grows on me. I can hardly get back to my previous machine, because using the old one I just notice all the improvements! Performance is beastly, and if you can afford it, the GPU is amazing. Both current end GPUs by nVidia and AMD are such powerhouses.

I know that feeling man! Well done, I am sure you will love your machine Performance is top notch, and if you find a game you can't play, chances are, no machine can play it hahaha. I enjoy maxing games, and when I deal with heavy hitters like Metro2033, they even show playable framerate, it's amazing. If you are coming from an 8800m GTS you are going to have a massive upgrade, over the charts.

 

Nice review ryzeki, I'm thinking of getting one myself since there are some sales going on right now for this, out of curiosity, how much did it cost when you bought this laptop?

 

Thank you! It's definitely a machine to get, I really recommend it!

If I remember correctly, it was along 1700dlrs with the barebone, only CPU (3610qm).... then the huge amount of money for the pair of SSDs. And Ram was around 90dlrs?

Sorry I am not even home to check properly but those are the prices the machine itself is. The key advantage is only buying what you need, or you can talk to a reseller like Ken to see if there is a deal for getting particular hardware

 

i bought msi gt60 with 670M in this may. so it is really annoying me that msi launched many other versions above me .been thinking of upgrade but it is expensive to buy the card itself, moreover i am worried about the heatsink, don't know where to get one for 680M. (don't wanna risk of modding the 670M heatsink ). what i've seen is, this beast is outperforming 670M by 50 - 100% increase lol, thats crazy. btw, could you post more benchmark?e:g; hitman absolution or other new heavy games
thanks and have a nice gaming man!

 

Thanks for reading man! I know how you feel, but don't worry 670m is still a powerful machine! and it's not like you got ripped off, 680m costs A HUGE amount of money. It is definitely a big investment that should only be made if you are unhappy with your performance.

Yes I can post more benchmarks, preferably if users tell me which games they would like benched. I will see if I can find hitman absolution to test it and update my review. Any other game or bench is welcomed.

 

yes, for example in ebay it cost 700 USD
MSI GT60 VGA Upgrade Kit; NVIDIA GTX 680M; 4GB DDR5; MXM 3.0b | eBay
can't ask my parents to buy me a new one. unless for next year when i become an engineer lol.sorry for telling this story.
anyway, other than hitman, assasin's creed 3, Medal of Honor warfighter and sleeping dogs, all on max settings please

 

Alright man, I'll see what I can do about those games in the coming days

 

That's quite a laundry list of games, good thing there is a steam sale!

Btw that 670 can be tweaked a fair amount too.

 

There's a chance I might be jumping the GE60 ship and joining the 16F3 club.

I blame Ry and my relatives.

 

That avatar of mine shows the max of 670M in vantage. T_T.btw hitman absolutionis a must try if you want to see 680M down on its knee

 

ryzeki, maybe you can improve temps by doing this

how to cool down laptop - YouTube

easy,cheap and fast

 

Hah, the MSI's have enough airflow so they don't tend to improve with cooling fans.

This was my best vantage score:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2720QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P16592 3DMarks

That was with old drivers too.

 

yes, but his is barebones, so it doesn't have turbo cooling. it's enough in stock clocks but he reached 80's in overclocking. so it might help to keep it below 80's when overclocking. its cheap n easy too.

i've seen your 570m is one the best piece. i admit defeat. i can't go past 830 mhz in core and 1634 mhz in memory. mine has 3GB GDDR5 so memory doesn't overclock really well

edit : or, do you have any ideas to boost it up other than nvidia inspector?

 

Have you tried pherin's fan control program on your machine?

Also I assume you are running the higher voltage bios already?

 

nope, what does it relate to my clock speed?

yes, by default MSI already put it 0.9V
regardless, i hate how low my memory can overclock

 

Well you were talking about temperatures, that lets you either force the fan to full speed or change the profile to let the fan go faster normally when gaming.

 

i will give it a shot. i am still noob, all thanks to sunderland BEE

btw, can i do anything to raise up the max clock?

 

Not really i'm afraid, but it's not terrible performance you have now.

 

Awesome! Come to the dark side... You know you want the highest end performance on your hands!

Hmm I think I will first examine my paste to see if everything is correctly applied. I have no particular issues with current temps, and while I could test that mod, it seems a bit too much haha. I'd rather not depend on external cooling to keep my temps in control, and only use external cooling to improve already good temps. I will not be carrying my cooling master U2 around everywhere every time

I do have turbo boost for the CPU fan What I don't have is the turbo button for small OC. Which doesn't really doesn't matter since I always use other software for OC.