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    RTX2070 MaxQ refresh vbios needed.

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by MezZo_Mix, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. MezZo_Mix

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    So maybe I will find here someone.

    I have a RTX2070 MaxQ refresh (2020 release) this card has a TDP up to 115W but in most laptops it’s limited mostly to 90W.

    Here is the question. can anyone give me a vbios dump of his 2070 MaxQ refresh with a TDP of 115W (not the older from 2019, it has to be the refresh).


    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. NeXt3R

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    max-q not have 115w

    send here DEVICE ID for more info
     
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    Yes I know now. I can’t flash mine up to 115W. However I’m at 105W at the moment. I would need a hardware programmer to rise the TDP since the 2070 "MaxQ" is just a lower clocked 2080 mobile.
     
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    maxQ is most time less parts/quality "more TDP" is dangerous
    ,.,.next is PSU / EC setup for new TDP ,..,,only more power problems !
     
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    Razer itself runs their 2070 maxQ up to 100W. You hopefully know that a maxQ is just a lower clocked 2070 mobile.
     
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    at least check MEMORY CLOCK ,..,when use custom vbios
    most maxQ die fast for higher setup

    maxq -- is lowest configuration "low TDP / CLOCK / **** components or less components"
    unlock above original limit - possitible HWdefect
     
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    Memory oc is fine. I mean I don’t change the voltage, just clocks. And I’m not a newbie in terms of overclocking.

    at the moment I’m using a 105w 2070 maxq refresh vbios. And I think that’s the limit, since there is no vbios for a maxq with 115W the only way would be to use a Hardware programmer. But I think I call it a day and stick with my 105W and +170core/+770mem oc
     
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    otherwise any vbios + same DEVICE ID can be used "nvflash" for new TDP

    nvflash64 -6 bios.rom
    -6 "overdrive subsystem"

    and second problem need OC skill - power problems
    notebook EC fw / AC adapter is for lower TDP ,.,.,possitible need correction

    ,.,.and heating "use better pads"
    but you still risk a defect ,., i think MAXQ - less resistors

    edit
     
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    best option "if still exist on RTX" - afterburner "voltage curve limit" under TDP
    CORE max OC offset .,,.memory no need OC for RTX ?? "and memory draw all power on board " - increases the faster performance limit !

    but best is OSD in game or LOG "real-time info for usage"
    "memory OC " is lower GPU usage - lower TDP usage
    "core OC" is best for full usage // or old games

    // fps limiter or vsync / halfsync
    for gaming on notebook performance

    RTX is 87C max before slowdown


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    hwinfo + afterburner // OSD - riva server
    this combo is best for better results // performance tuning
     
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    Thanks for your heads up.

    but let me explain me decisions, I am using a Razer Blade Base 2020 which I got for pretty little money. Sadly without guarantee but almost new condition. The battery is still over design capacity etc.

    I already opened the blade and repasted it and gave it also new and far better thermal pads. I also gave the chipset(?) two thermal pads, since they are not covered by the cooler on the Basis variant. For the 2070. Razers 17 inch laptops are using a 100W vbios for the 2070. I would simple guess that razer is using the same 2070 for their 15 inch models since it’s cheaper. Also the 2070 MaxQ is just a lower clocked 2070 mobile. So there is no need to worry about temps, or cheaper components etc. And no, MSI Afterburner has no option for the TDP curve. Just for the voltage.

    my temps are also fine. On the stock vbios with 80-90W my temp was only 75 degrees and guess what, with the 105W vbios I have the same temps, not even a single degree higher. Maybe because I’m using a stand.

    Also Memory OC is really Important, especially on lower clocked mobile GPUs. Also a note for you. My blade is using a 2070 maxq refresh which comes with a Vram that needs less power (lower voltage).

    the last thing I want to do is undervolting the GPU, but only if I’m 100% sure the only way to get 115W is a hardware programmer.


    To the last, I can’t just flash I mobile vbios onto a maxQ card. The card will end up in a low lower mode. I tested it just yesterday.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 27, 2021
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    That's very close to how I run my 2070 115W. It is not a "Refresh" or "Max-Q" model though. It will scale higher and take more voltage but at 1860Mhz & ~.875V the max load temps are somewhere around 68C which is great!
     
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    so it's still the same as for PASCAL
    0.881-0.893V - 115-125W and no need more :D

    but best is OSD in games // visible power limit // voltage
    and set all real-time

    and if you still have a power limit -- lower visual setup in game
    benefits 105W on 115W -- possitible FIX only in afterburner

    real TDP unlock - 200W or more :D