Need help, Temps MSI GT70-2PE

Hi everyone,

I think I may have some problems with the temps of my laptop. After 10 minutes of prime 95 + furemark the laptop shows 93ºC o the GPU an 90ºC on the CPU. The room has good ventilation and around 23ºC, I'm not blocking the vents and cooling system is online at ~4700 - 5000 RPM. On idle temps are around 43ºC.

Playing Battlefield 4 on ultra temps get 90ºC on both GPU and CPU remaining stable for all the game.

What do you think?, I still can return back the laptop and buy a new one.

 

That's normal when you push the CPU and GPU to the max at the same time, it's high but it's not practical nor severe since the testing technique is constant. You can reduce its temperature by a few C by changing the stock thermal paste to IC diamond.
Additionally, adding a notebook cooler will help with the temperature.

 

If you are familiar with repasting, you can change thermal paste. If you are even more familiar with computers, you can change thermal pads as well. I suggest playing with turbofan on while you sort it out. Temps themselves are not the actual issue, as at worst the system will throttle to protect itself.

If you are having throttling issues, then indeed you can try getting a repaste or change from your store/reseller with the argument you are not performing at 100%.

I also recommend getting a laptop cooler.I like the Cooler Master U2. That combined with turbofan I usually have 70s temps when gaming instead of higher 80-90s.

 

here are my temperatures with furmark benchmark...with CPU and GPU burner tests and fans on max...i did the burn in benchmark for 15 minutes

 

Those tests will make the GPUs throttle, that's what they are designed to do (the chips) so you get maximum performance when playing actual games.

A repaste and repad can help if you feel like you want to.

 

Well, a friend of mine has the previous generation of msi and has runned the test for me, altghough he has a 4700mq and a gtx 770m the temps should be close to mine. His tests shows about 15 degrees less after 15 minutes of prime95 + furmark. Also, his idle temps are about 10 degrees less.

I have changed termal compunds lots of times in my life but I don't want to though away my warranty. Finally I have asqued my reseller to change the laptop, it can't be posible that a generaton above has about 10 degrees more.

Deedeeman, I think you should change your computer too, this performance si quite far from it should be.

 

The temp looks fine.
Try without using cooler boost and check again.

 

Your replacement system may still have the same result because 880M is the best premium GPU, aka burner.
It is 100W TDP GPU where 770M is just 75W TDP GPU, therefore it is a big difference to make that 10 degree difference.

 

I have to say cooler boost is always active during tests, also, my card is a 870M not a 880M

I am quite frustrated because this laptop is my replacement of a desktop, I'm not able to have one so I will use the laptop every day, playing constantly with it, and reaching 90º C with battlefield 4 indicates it only will last for máximum two years. I don't want that form a 1600€ laptop, I need it for at least 4 to 5 years.

 

I got 90C here too.
So don't worry about 90C since it's normal under maximum use, but the system should never exceed 100C.

 

Sorry miss read the original post...

 

I typically get around 78C while playing BF4 and Titanfall on my gpu while sitting on my cooler master U3 with Cooler boost off on my GT70 2PC.

 

Xanius, those are great temperaturas, can you please test what happens when not using that termal pad?

I may buy that pad too, any other sugestions?

 

I have a GX660R that I sold with 80 to 90C temps that still runs like a champ today. You should consider repasting/repadding as well as a cooling mat if temps are getting on your nerves. The GPU itself was made to withstand the temp and self downclock when it needs to.

My laptop runs with a cooler master U2 and custom fan profile at 75% and I rarely reach over 78C when gaming, with a780m overclocked beyond 880m.

 

I am looking to buy a cooler master u3 which seems is one of the best pads that can be found on the net although i don't have any hope it will decrease 15º C.

What are your experiences with termal pads?

 

I bought from FrozenCPU the 0.5mm pads and for thermal paste I repasted with IC Diamond 24. I regularly clean my laptop fan as well.

 

Surely I have to buy a cooling pad, but i don't want to repaste the latpot, it is quite easy to do but I may have some problems if i need to use MSI warranty.

 

You can try contacting MSI but I don't think repasting voids warranty.

 

Repasting is easy and you should be able to do it without causing any damages to the internal circuit.
The warranty sticker isn't enforced by MSI so if it's just a simply repaste job MSI doesn't mind it.

 

Excellent, thanks

 

Sure about it? I heard different opinions about that topic, even a guy telling his warranty was void because the stick was broken.

 

Where are you at? If you are in the US, I can guarantee you that MSI doesn't care about the sticker.
But if the sticker is tempered, they will pay a little extra attention to any internal damages if your system breaks down. So if there are no damages then you don't have to worry about it at all.

 

Spain guy, didn't find any info about my country. Just sent an email to MSI spain to confirm the warranty void, i will translate you their response.

Anyway, do you think a cooler master u3 will decrease about 10º when gaming to be at a decent 80ºC?

 

You did well, since this policy may vary from region to region.
It's best to double check with the local office first.

 

Puedes dejar la respuesta en español no te preocupes.

You can tremendously reduce temps if you remove the back cover and use the cooler. Well beyond 10 C

 

Don't want to take out the back cover, I usually move the laptop and also I may void the warranty

 

Which should I buy:

Cooler master U3

Thermaltake massive 23

 

You can compare the reviews on Newegg.
Newegg.com - Cooler master U3
Newegg.com - Thermaltake massive 23

 

acer laptop turn on and then off several times nothing on lcd display ,what is the problem bad capacitors or what , i m chip level allmost please help thanks

 

So I just played BF4 for about 20 mins and without my cooler pad I was between 83 and 84 deg. The good thing about the U3 is you can move the fans wherever you want. With mine I put 1 fan underneath in the middle by the ac input and the other two under the large heat pipe vent in the middle left side of the notebook.

 

just an FYI
i played crysis 3 on ultra settings with AA and AF and my temps never went above 83C for GPU and 78C for overall cpu
those temps were with that furmark stress test thingy

 

Maxed out pretty much.

 

and that was after about 4-5 hours of playing..i think the cool booster does a good job under normal gaming conditions

and also note that its summer and my AC was off room temps were pretty high too

 

But playing battlefield 4 I reach 90° on both gpu and cpu in just 10 minutes. I know that stress tests won't show real behaviour but even at gaming temps are really high, quite a lot more than yours.

 

maybe you got a faulty paste job on ur cpu and/or gpu...its really hard to tell which one because the thermal bridge would move the heat over to the other cooler component (a design flaw in my opinion)..i would repaste

 

Well like I said before I will send back the laptop to the reseller in order to get a new one, probably it will reach same temps so I have sent an email to msi Spain to get confirmation I can break the warranty sticker at the bottom of the laptop. I have some artic silver 5 around here so I will try a repaste and buying a termal pad.

Don't know what else to do but surely I won't play any game which such bad temps.

 

a question:
do u have the GT70 2PC or the 2PE?

 

Yeah that was a miss writing, 2pe has gtx 880m whereas 2pc carries a 870m. Mine is a 2pc

 

The 880m and 870m do tend to have similar temperatures.

 

870m is an overclocked 680m right? No wonder they have similar temps.

 

It's because both the 880m and 870m use the same gk104 at similar frequencies and disabling units does not reduce power much.

 

Both GPUs are listed as 100W TDP therefore they are similar in terms of power consumption.
880M
870M

Pipeline:
1536 vs 1344

Core speed:
954 vs 941 MHz

Memory speed:
5000MHz (identical)

Memory bus width:
256-bit vs 192-bit

 

Yes like I said, the core speeds are so similar that the voltages will need to be the same and disabled units save virtually no power ergo the heat produced will be virtually identical especially when the silicon quality of the 870M is likely slightly lower.

 

Hi guys, finally MSI contacted to me, they said upgrading SSD won't void my warranty but the new components won't be covered by warranty, also if I break something it's my fault.

Finally the shop returned my money back and I'm waiting for a new model to arrive, it's a 2PE with i7 4710MQ and gtx880M. The problem is it doesn't ship with a SSD so I would have to buy one and install it, and I'm having trouble to find one that fits in the PC. The laptop is:

MSI GT70 2PE-1851XES i7-4710MQ/16GB/1TB/GTX 880M/17.3" 9S7-1763A2-1851 Portátil

Also the SSD that I want to buy is:

Samsung 840 Evo SSD Series 120GB SATA3 MZ-7TE120BW Disco Duro SSD

But, I don't know the connections of this model, can I put that SSD on the laptop or it just has SATA2 plus MSATA connections?

 

Make Recovery DVDs for your system, then upgrade the OS drive to SSD, then use the recovery media to restore the OS.
Your system doesn't have mSATA connection since it comes with HDD only therefore you have only 2x 2.5" bays for standard HDD/SSD.

 

The laptop comes with no SO, quite good option due to I have free copies of windows thanks to my university. So, this version does not include RAID 0? I thought all GT70-2PE had a SATA3 bay for the original HDD plus two msata bays and also another one if you put out the DVD burner.

Do you recomend this version? For 1600€ I think there is nothing better out there, also I will include the SSD as said before for just 60€. Well the most important part is the great GTX880M a beast for the price, also I just need a single SSD of at least 120GB, it would be great if in the future I can expand it to dual SSD but not so important.

 

They all have 2x 2.5" SATA bays, certain configurations' 1st bay is filled with mSATA daughter board to hold 3x mSATA SSD.

 

I really think raid 0 in a laptop is just marketing, even a desktop for a normal user doesn't need such high accés velocity, no way an average user will use so heavy data to make raid useful. Moreover raid is only useful in great computing machines, or data centers and they usually use raid 56.

After all there are many ways to virtually arrange disks in a single virtual disk.

So, gt70 has 3x2,5 SATA 3 bays including that used by the 1 to hdd?