Nahimic 3 on "unsupported systems"

I have, it's working on my GT72-6QD and another asked with the 1158 line and it worked.

@Falkentyne for now have a rest but don't make yourself ill. I am home now and will do a clean mod run.

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Just let me know when you can make another mod run for me.
I'd really like to try the newer drivers.

right now I don't even use the built in sound if Im gaming. I use my Sennheiser GSX-1000 I bought for $99 (a few years ago) after a pricing error they had to honor. If Nahimic 3 can provide decent 5.1 or 7.1 emulated surroundsound close in quality to the GSX-1000 I'll be happy. but I can't even get the 8509 realtek drivers installed. Something is making it think my hardware isn't supported. And it's nothing I did screwing around in the Bios either (since MSI's own files work as long as it is from NH2, even realtek's drivers on their own realtek homepage work!).

 

@Falkentyne Here you go fellow brother, give these a try but please bare in mind these is for Windows 10 64bit driver just in case you installed Windows 7 or 8 i know that might be swearing so apologies for that in advance.

This is how i install the drivers for me after i have read the Inf Placement.txt file i made and placed the modded.inf files in the right place.

Code:

1) Run setup.exe and allow the Realtek Audio Drivers to get uninstalled, it will then ask if you want to restart select no
2) Go to Start -> Power Icon then press and hold shift followed by clicking restart
3) This will bring a menu up select Troubleshooting > Advanced Options then select Startup Settings then finally click restart
4) On system rebooting it will give you some options just press 7 or F7
5) With Driver Signature Enforcer Disabled the the Realtek Audio driver setup.exe will autorun
6) Select Install Drivers on all pop ups that show up during install.
7) It will ask if you want to download Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store (If you don't want to go down that route PM me)

That should then get Nahimic 3 working on your system hopefully with sound.

@felix3650 If you want to also try as well as you have the same laptop as Falkentyne please feel free to do so and follow the above steps.

 

Doesn't work.
Exact same error as before.
"Does not support your hardware"

 

Is this the driver or nahimic?

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The realtek driver.
It starts installing then the "unsigned driver" thing appears, I press 'install anyway' then it bombs with "your hardware is not supported."

 

Note that the Realtek HDA drivers from the Reatlek web site are traditional HDA drivers, while the 8509 drivers from the Github CHEF-KOCH/gaming tweaks site are UAD drivers, which have a different structure (or different format for simplicity sake) than the HDA drivers; plus UAD drivers require recent versions of Windows 10 and will not work with older versions.

The Nahimic 3 app from the MS Store is a UWP app [UWP = universal windows platform]
Nahimic 1.x & 2.x apps are desktop apps, which is different; again different structure between Nahimic 1.x/2.x and Nahimic 3.x.

Also when using Realtek UAD drivers on MSI laptops, one needs at least Windows 10 version 1803 (Redstone 4) for best Nahimic 3 support. Nahimic 3 might work with the 1709 (Redstone 3) version if recent cumulative updates for that version are applied but will definitely not work with any older version of Windows 10 before the 1709 release.

guys, please check if you are running Windows 10 v1709 (RS3) or v1803 (RS4) before attempting to install new Realtek audio drivers on those MSI laptops.

 

Well that explains that. I am using Enterprise March 2017 (build 1703). I have 1709 somewhere but I haven't installed it.

 

Ha ha that would explain it, even though your on Windows 10 your not on the right build number, hummmmmm right going to see if I can mod that out and will test it my end before posting.

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That's a dick move on the part of Nahimic and MSI, in particular.

For one, without Nahimic, some audio settings are simply unavailable, yet the same bloatware actually uses Realtek APIs for audio post-processing.
And with MSI: Why gimp the realtek HD audio driver you provide to the extent that without Nahimic, audio is basically unusable?
This was the case with my older MSI GS43VR 6RE.

 

That's why there is people like me whom takes a company's we can't do it because of XYZ and prove them wrong.

I was one of the original people whom contacted nahimic when nahimic 3 was first release showing that 6th series and there for 7th series MSI laptops would work with the UAD drivers even offered to help then test said drivers.

It was the same with the MXM upgrade mess MSI created. To me if a company says "no" I say challenge accepted. All it took with nahimic was 3 files to be edited to add device ID's and boom it all works.

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Right, The latest Nahimic Realtek 6.0.1.8531 drivers are out, I have modded the drivers, as well as setuping up an self extracting executable which will run setup.exe after extracting to c:\Nahimic .

I will be looking for some testers with the following Device ID's

Code:

VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158

VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B

VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180

This can be found via dxdiag under the Sound 1 tab listed as Hardware ID, if your unsure then PM me or post on this thread.


So if your currently running Nahimic 2/2+ and are running Windows 10 build 1803 on wards please post your ID's in here, this way after each testing batch I can add new hardware id's to the driver mods.

For now testing will be done via PM where instructions can be given on how to install the modded drivers (This is to ensure consistency of successful installs) so if you fancy a punt at these drivers I will need the following in a pm

Code:

MSI Model:

Current OS Build:

Dxdiag Hardware ID from Sound 1 Tab:

In return if Nahimic 3 works on your system please let me know and also any issues or bugs.



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Can someone help me? What is the latest version of the current sound card driver for MSI GT73VR 6RE and what is the nahmic version same laptop? MSI official drivers on their site are old.Thanks.

 

@Eflatun might be handy to have your device ID bud, this can be found under the Sound 1 Tab in dixdiag under Hardware ID.

 

sometimes DXDiag does not fully display the hardware ID of the Realtek audio device.

Get the hardware ID number of the Realtek audio device from Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) instead:
https://www.dell.com/support/articl...ivers-for-devices-using-a-hardware-id?lang=en
[expand the Sound, Video and Game controllers section of Device Manager and look for either "Realtek High Definition Audio" or "Realtek Audio"]

 

Currently Running MSI GE 63 7RE driver version 8544

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7&REV_1000

Nahimic 3 version 1.23

No issues... yet.

 

6.0.1.8531 seems to be working on Win10 build 1809 with hardware ID: 14621158. (MSI GS60)
Followed your instructions, although had to disable Windows from updating the drivers automatically.

You are a godsend @hacktrix2006

Btw nearly all the mediafire links that you've posted are down. Including the ones on your github page.

If anyone is looking for the latest UAD Nahimic driver, you can find it here: http://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/realtek_nahimic_UAD_audio.zip straight from MSI

 

@Bazgrim the links provided on Github are CHEF-KOCH's ,it was where i was getting them from however i do have a 6.0.1.8531 Installed on my system to which i modded and made into a Self-extracting installer. However i Will update the mod with your ID's in once you confirm what codec yours is yes ID is 14621158 but as was the codec i.e 899/892/662/1220 etc you didn't say.

All my links will be Mega links once i have started dishing out the modded version.

@asm1 your ID is already in the driver, however its not in the AVoluteNH3Ext.inf file so can you tell me if the effects are working without your ID being in AVoluteNH3Ext.inf file.

I have repackaged the Modded installer/extractor with the new ID's.

Modded Install Download Link:

Code:

https://mega.nz/#!bUUUnSgZ!LXm-aG3JCPSPwWmgQGskYVhAhlTcjepXP64rMJLbFQU

This will automatically Extract the driver to c:\Nahimic and then promptly run setup.exe, Allow all unsigned .inf installs (Should be 3 of them). Then let me know how it goes.

The only requirements to this driver is Windows 10 Build 1803 and above with Driver Enforcement Disabled, then install Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store:

Code:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/nahimic/9n36ppmp8s23

Realtek Audio Control Panel:

Code:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/realtek-audio-control/9p2b8mcsvpln?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab

 

@hacktrix2006 My bad, 899.

 

That ID is added in the latest Modded driver linked above your post

 

Yes they do, or at least they seem to.

 

Seems like i will need to find UAD Nahimic drivers from another source as CHEF-KOCH's github page has now gone, not sure why though.

Edit: New Drivers 6.0.1.8557

Driver Link: https://mega.nz/#!HIkGQQrA!VuOt4I3a2_re6oQ0qZJ_jA6E4cW9UwrJr_4qHB90TIE

Change Log:

Code:

Updated Drivers to Realtek UAD 8557
Changed Extractor package to extract files to c:\Nahiic\UAD_xxxx (where xxxx is driver version)
Seems to have improved Microphone Volume output.

 

I have this Realtek
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C&REV_1003
and after installing the drivers, nahimic 3 doesnt work.

My laptop is a MSI Gs60 2QE.

 

@hacktrix2006 - Spoke too soon. Updated to latest drivers (yours) and nahimic installs and runs but gives "Nahimic Cannot be used - your audio driver is not up to date or your system is not compatible." I have installed the latest nahimic from store and I think they've closed the loophole that was allowing me to install. Can't go back to older versions as they give same message.

@rse!

 

@asm1 so its not the drivers but the new update of Nahimic 3 app that blocks us from using?

 

First things first did you disable Driver Enforcement? If not you must do so and have Windows 10 1803 or higher.

Else I will add your device ID and will send 3 files for you to replace when I get home.

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@ixende I have had a look at the files your ID is not in the Drivers so i will be adding them in. Please let me know what Windows 10 build your on.


Edit: I have now added your files in, please download this zip and follow the instructions.

Please let me know if it works if it has then i will add this ID into the next batch of drivers

@asm1 Can you please PM me bud, or at least paste your Device ID on here. Also was Driver Signature Enforcement disabled when you went to install the new drivers??

 

yes. It worked fine with 1.23, but now in 1.24 nahimic doesnt work

Realtec audio console also now says unsupported. Both seem to have been updated on store recently.

Running 8.544 as that is what I had going when it worked.

 

Ok found what Nahimic 1.2.4 done to kill the modded driver and fixed it.

Change Log:

Code:

Updated Device ID to files that need modding:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7

Updated Nahimic Files
Compressed Driver even Smaller!

Driver Link:

Code:

https://mega.nz/#!CctwjQqK!BfjSCHVj_xAJ6WoxFck4JHL0r4U3S4c4sEcMUxf4iM4

Any issues let me know.


EDIT: I have 6.0.1.8560 Drivers for testing need some Test users please, PM me interested.

 

I managed to install the drivers and Nahimic 3 shows Loading... then closes on its own. Windows 1709_16299.

Is it due to windows build? I dont want to update to 1803 because 1709 is more stable and has less problems.

 

If your running 1709 it will not work at all you have to be on 1803 it above.

All my drivers are UAD Modded drivers.


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Yep I updated and it worked
Thank you so much

 

No problem just make sure you don't update to 1809 as that is a right mess ATM.

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1803 and I got my first BSOD no way im going to 1809 unless its perfectly stable

 

Ok new Drivers, should solve the issue with Nahimic 3 Version 1.2.4, As always please ensure that you follow the steps below:

Code:

1) Run setup.exe and allow the Realtek Audio Drivers to get uninstalled, it will then ask if you want to restart select no
2) Go to Start -> Power Icon then press and hold shift followed by clicking restart
3) This will bring a menu up select Troubleshooting > Advanced Options then select Startup Settings then finally click restart
4) On system rebooting it will give you some options just press 7 or F7
5) With Driver Signature Enforcer Disabled the the Realtek Audio driver setup.exe will autorun
6) Select Install Drivers on all pop ups that show up during install.
7) It will ask if you want to download Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store (If you don't want to go down that route PM me)

Code:

Driver Version: 6.0.1.8560
Device ID's added:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C

Device ID's added to AVoluteNH3Ext.inf:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7

Windows 10 1803 Driver Link:

https://mega.nz/#!OYtkgYjS!JRX20kPb1an5rgq7d4rfMPxFca7p3By5DuPC0raTsdw

 

Some Driver components have been updated

Code:

Change Log:
Updated RealtekAPO_650 to RealtekAPO_654
Updated RealtekHSA_148 to RealtekHSA_149
Updated RealtekService_121 to RealtekService_125

Code:

1) Run setup.exe and allow the Realtek Audio Drivers to get uninstalled, it will then ask if you want to restart select no
2) Go to Start -> Power Icon then press and hold shift followed by clicking restart
3) This will bring a menu up select Troubleshooting > Advanced Options then select Startup Settings then finally click restart
4) On system rebooting it will give you some options just press 7 or F7
5) With Driver Signature Enforcer Disabled the the Realtek Audio driver setup.exe will autorun
6) Select Install Drivers on all pop ups that show up during install.
7) It will ask if you want to download Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store (If you don't want to go down that route PM me)

Code:

Driver Version: 6.0.1.8560

Device ID's added:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C

Device ID's added to AVoluteNH3Ext.inf:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7

Windows 10 1803 Driver Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6YEnQKIB!tJK2yh4QGlngrKIzSq6Q5c3zvFmUyphwqERjapvkgPI

 

New 8564 Drivers are available..

Code:

Change Log:

Driver Updated to 6.0.1.8564

Code:

1) Run setup.exe and allow the Realtek Audio Drivers to get uninstalled, it will then ask if you want to restart select no

2) Go to Start -> Power Icon then press and hold shift followed by clicking restart

3) This will bring a menu up select Troubleshooting > Advanced Options then select Startup Settings then finally click restart

4) On system rebooting it will give you some options just press 7 or F7

5) With Driver Signature Enforcer Disabled the the Realtek Audio driver setup.exe will autorun

6) Select Install Drivers on all pop ups that show up during install.

7) It will ask if you want to download Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store (If you don't want to go down that route PM me)

Code:

Driver Version: 6.0.1.8564

Device ID's added to files that require it:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C

Device ID's added to AVoluteNH3Ext.inf:
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7

Windows 10 1803 Driver Link: https://mega.nz/#!mUswUCZI!KwPDO9dPr82qUuSl6bayIurqI77yCDS7amj7H-L427o

 

On 8564 as above- Nahimic has crapped out again saying "Drivers not up to date" bleh

 

Any screenshot as I am using 8564 without issues. Have you checked also devman for driver versions.

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Device manager checking for updates, rolls me back to 83xx... other than that, no issues.. Realtek control center doesnt work either, ---> Perpetual spinning circle of nothingness when I try to open it....

 

Strange, hummmmmm will look into it thanks for letting me know.

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Code:

Change Log:
Repacked Driver: 6.0.1.8564 to fix issue reported by @asm1

Code:

1) Run setup.exe and allow the Realtek Audio Drivers to get uninstalled, it will then ask if you want to restart select no

2) Go to Start -> Power Icon then press and hold shift followed by clicking restart

3) This will bring a menu up select Troubleshooting > Advanced Options then select Startup Settings then finally click restart

4) On system rebooting it will give you some options just press 7 or F7

5) With Driver Signature Enforcer Disabled the the Realtek Audio driver setup.exe will autorun

6) Select Install Drivers on all pop ups that show up during install.

7) It will ask if you want to download Nahimic 3 from the Windows Store (If you don't want to go down that route PM me)

Code:

Driver Version: 6.0.1.8564

Device ID's added to files that require it:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C

Device ID's added to AVoluteNH3Ext.inf:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621180
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_14621158
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115B
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1462115C
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_1220&SUBSYS_146211F7

Windows 10 1803 Driver Link: https://mega.nz/#!iVdDmCAZ!HaIRWNVch38_BDR6gsIZfXQ3haXW3AbYZcHOptdUCDg

 

I installed this on my MSI GT72S 6QE with Windows build 1809. Nahimic 3 is working but theres no difference in sound when i change modes or turn effects off, also Realtek Audio Console says "doesn't support for this machine".
Is there any way to get the Audio Console working? Also in Device Manager, the device now shows as "Realtek(R) Audio" and driver version is 6.0.1.8117 even though I've installed 8564.
Edit : and yes my device ID is present in your modded version.
Edit 2: I installed the non repacked version of 8564, which did the same thing as the repacked. But then i went to device manager and clicked "roll back driver" which rolled it back to 8564 and now Realtek Audio Console is working but sound effects still not working on nahimic 3.
Edit 3: I updated to 8569 by adding ID to HDXMSI and nahimic 3 is working with sound effects. However, when i plug in my headset, Realtek Audio Console asks what device was plugged in, "Headphone, Front Out, S/PDIF". When i select Headphone, Nahimic still picks S/PDIF next to the effects on/off toggle at the top. Idk how much difference does that make.

 

Sounds like Microsoft decided to push the ASUS driver to you, i have had this issue in the past the simply way of fixing this issue is by copying this into notepad and saving it into a .reg file then running that said file and rebooting the system.

Disable:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings]
"ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=dword:00000001

Enable (Restore Back to Windows Default Settings):

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings]
"ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=dword:00000000

Once you have done this follow the installing the modded drivers steps again.


Now for your question Number 2, the difference between 8564 modded and 8564 modded repacked is one file which i modified extra but caused an issue with asm1 so i repacked the entire driver again without that file being modded.


Now i have noticed that you have mentioned there is a 8569 Version of the driver i shell have a look at that and test it and also well done on modding HDXMSI.inf .

However there are 3 files total that need modding with your ID for it to work correctly

HDXMSI.inf
HDX_MsiExt_AVO_RTK.inf
AVoluteNH3Ext.inf

Hope this helps. Time for my Meds now only just woke up like. I have also included .reg files within the attached .zip file to save you time.

 

Thanks for the registry files, i dont think i need them since windows is not auto updating now after i used the roll back option. The 8569 i downloaded only had HDXMSI in it, not the other 2. And i updated it from device manager itself without needing to reboot. The only problem i have now is nahimic shows S/PDIF even when i choose "headphones" in the Realtek Audio Console pop up when i plug mine in. IDK if nahimic should show a popup when i plug something in, but it doesnt show any when i tried the same without having Realtek Audio Console installed.

this is where i got it from, im on 1809 build ---> https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Realtek Semiconductor Corp MEDIA 2018

 

The S/PDIF bit is correct in Nahimic it does it on mine as well its to do with NH3ProductSettings.cab and touching that breaks Nahimic so its left as is. As for Nahimic popping up on mine sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't, after all its being used on hardware thats not supported.
Also as for Realtek Audio Console its normally always installed along side 3rd party audio software like Nahimic etc.

As for that driver yes its a UAD but normally it doesn't have the 3rd party addons as its a generic UAD driver strange.

 

anyone like to mod the drivers for me?
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115A&REV_1000
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0899&SUBSYS_1462115A
Thanks

 

Will add to the next driver mod release which I am currently testing. Do you have laptop model number?

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MSI GE62 6QD it is the 7th series CPU.

 

That would be a 6th generation hence 6QD part. However your ID has been added just testing said driver right now for issues.

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