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    Msi gs70

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by cotolay, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

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    Anyone knows when this will hit the US?

    I was thinking about getting a razer blade, but i think this one would be a better choice.

     
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  2. MSI Dragon

    MSI Dragon Company Representative

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    Soon, very soon. This is thinner and lighter than Razer blad Pro
     
  3. smashhell

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    OMG That is great to hear.
    If it gets battery life like the Razer too and it's under $2k, it'll be the perfect laptop.
     
  4. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

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    smashhell Notebook Enthusiast

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    But that is not the same one.
    That model has a monitor on the touchpad and weights 8lb+.
    The one I'm interested at is the GS70 that weights lighter and thinner than the Razer Blade(As MSI Representative said above) It should be cheaper too.
     
  6. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahh yes. They say the one being released is not the concept version. The one the have in the video is the concept. =)
     
  7. smashhell

    smashhell Notebook Enthusiast

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    O_O Just saw a video on YouTube about the production version of GS70.
    Apparently it's only going to weight 2.66kg or 5.8lbs.
    It's only going to be 22mm thick or 0.86 inches.
    Plus it's going to have 3 hours battery life.

    If those specs are correct, this kills the Razer Blade Pro on every aspect AND it's going to be cheaper!
    This laptop is going to be awesome! =D
     
  8. ryzeki

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    Yep, lately MSI has been pulling no punches in every single market segment with amazing laptops :) I definitely encourage the GS series far more than the Razer
     
  9. Acapella75

    Acapella75 Notebook Guru

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    I may have to go for this one for the portability. My GT60 is nice and powerful but i did not realize how big it was. I had difficulty fitting it into a laptop bag made for 17" notebooks. I know the gpu is a downgrade but I really only play MMOs like Wow, FFXIV, and maybe EQ Next/Wildstar. No FPS or anything. Choices, choices.
     
  10. smashhell

    smashhell Notebook Enthusiast

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    Exactly!

    Portability is always a big factor in laptops. If you're going to buy a 10lb+ laptop, you're better off just buying a PC and save some money.

    This GS series laptop is shaping up to be an amazing laptop.
     
  11. Riko Ako

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    If GS 70 is user upgrade friendly (upgrade RAM's SSD's mSata) this is a win towards Razer which you swap your own hardware result void warranty.

    Dual mSata in raid 0 + killer doubleshot in a slim form factor...
     
  12. Acapella75

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    Dual msata plus another hdd. That has a lot of storage potential.
     
  13. arthurpride

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    specs please ?
     
  14. Riko Ako

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    Being "thick" and "heavy" are the common characteristics of most high-performance gaming notebooks. To ensure high-standard, high-speed, and high-reliability computing, consumers began to get used to the inconvenient portability of high-end gaming notebooks. With the continuous and concerted effort of the R&D team, MSI broke the misconception of "high performance = thick + heavy shell" by launching the new-generation Ultra-Gaming Notebook: MSI GS70.

    In a fashionable metal shell, the MSI GS70 is less than 2.6kg and only 2.18 cm thick. It is the thinnest, lightest, and best-equipped gaming notebook in the industry. Besides the MSI-exclude Super Raid technology to enhance data access speed, the dual-fan cooling design allows the 4th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 CPU and NVIDIA GeForce GTX765M GPU to deliver perfect performance in a reliable operating environment. In the 3D Mark Vantage test, the P Score of both the CPU and GPU is 18000 marks.

    To ensure optimal gaming experience, MSI also equips the GS70 with the Steelseries full-color backlit keyboard and outstanding 2.1 channels audio. With one HDMI and two Mini DisplayPorts, the GS70 supports triple display at the same time to provide gamers accustomed to multitasking operation with more comfortable and convenient game space.


    MSI Global – News
     
  15. Kepller

    Kepller Notebook Guru

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    Better hope the battery is NOT the MSI GE's 4400mAh one, it will suck.
     
  16. smashhell

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    Nope it is not.
    They already say expected battery life to be 3+ hours
     
  17. rally_point

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    Don't the specs look almost identical to a GE70? Other than finish and trackpad, is there really a difference?


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  18. Roninator13

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    Any chance the battery life will be closer to 4-5 hours? What's the point of a super portable laptop if it always has to be plugged in?
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Backlit steelseries keyboard al9ng with being much thinner with better battery life.
     
  20. alexsupreme

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    The cheaper version will probably cost around 1400$
    If the screen is IPS with at least 70% gamut it might be a worthwhile investment.
     
  21. MSI Dragon

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    Official Weight: 5.73lb (unit only)
    Dimension: 16.47" X 11.29" X 0.85"
    There is also a new thinner and lighter power adapter for this GS series.
     
  22. Entionz

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    Everything I've seen on this game-top points out its dimensions, processor, and gpu. Any word on the storage components, or have I missed them somewhere?
     
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    Thunderbolt uses power and PCB space at the moment.
     
  25. MSI Dragon

    MSI Dragon Company Representative

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    Wow that is sweet looking. And 2 fans finally ? :).
     
  27. Entionz

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  28. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

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    I am buying this!
     
  29. Rykoshet

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    Is there a 14" slim/stealth in the works, or is the 17" all we'll see from MSI in the thin gaming laptop category?
     
  30. charliex3

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    I dont think that its possible to build 14" GS series... but I think there will be GS60 = 15.6" anyways i would like to see battery life of this machine if its better than GE60
     
  31. Covariant

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    I would love for that to be true, but I haven't heard a single hint anywhere about a GS60. If one is planned, they're either being incredibly tight-lipped about it, or it's not coming for awhile.
     
  32. bkoon1218

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    I wonder if it'll handle games in 1080p in high settings well. I'm definitely thinking of this over the Alienware 17 and Asus G750, both with the 770m.
     
  33. Quadzilla

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    That depends on the game . 765m is a very capable card but high settings on say Crysis3 ? Probably not so well. High settings on Battlefield 3 yeah it should be fine. You can check the G750 forums to see what other people are getting at 1080p plus Notebookcheck did a whole article on the 3 newest GPUs going head to head so that is another good place to at least get a general idea of what to expect .
     
  34. Roninator13

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    Any idea on what the battery life will be? I heard it is a 6-Cell, which I don't like one bit. Also, how long until we will be able to purchase it?
     
  35. bkoon1218

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    Did just that and found pretty decent fps on games that I want to play.

    Now I wonder what's the OC potential for the 765m with the laptop's cooling. I'm guessing it'll run hot and loud like the Razer though.

    I read it's available in August.
     
  36. Quadzilla

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    As thin as that thing is and even with 2 fans my money is on it running hot right outta the box. Of course we all hope it wont but i would expect the worst and hope for the best . That is always my motto on most things in life anyhow :).

    That thing looks amazing though i know i want one lol.
     
  37. bkoon1218

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    Not sure how credible this site is, but here's some specs from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-105-MS :

     
  38. uzun

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    The GE70 isn't really much larger, but this seems so much more slick and polished. I hope Xotic PC will offer CPU upgrades for this, but if not I'm still probably buying one.
     
  39. Quadzilla

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    As thin as this one is I have a feeling they went the soldered CPU route like razer and asus did.
     
  40. bkoon1218

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    With such a thin design, I'm pretty sure everything is soldered. It makes me wonder if we'll be able to open it up and repaste if needed. Another concern is the durability of the components and warranty.
     
  41. Quadzilla

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    Warranty will probably be 2 years especially considering the base price is $1800 US for the low end model. You will most certainly be able to get in there and tinker with it on some level. Hopefully they design the bottom like all there other machines where you take off the back cover and everything is right there. Looking forward to hearing some impressions from the owners. I really like the direction MSI is headed with that machine it is very classy looking .
     
  42. WhatsThePoint

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    I hope gamers don't buy this only because of aesthetics?

    It doesn't look like the best bang for the buck.

    Gaming is mostly while on AC power and the GPU is the key piece of hardware in any gaming notebook.

    Being thin and having a gimmicky touchpad are not on my list of importance in a notebook I'd consider buying for gaming.

    A 17.3" for a carrying around....not hardly.

    So,what's the selling points to a gamer?

    Same candy in a new wrapper?
     
  43. Quadzilla

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    Ultra light. Huge screen. Small PSU. Hopefully good battery life for people who use there notebook for more then just gaming which many people do.

    Not targeted at "gamer" but at casual gamer on the go.

    Some people want a large screen but something they can take everywhere and if its light that helps alot.

    Clearly this is not the machine for you though.
     
  44. bkoon1218

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    Some people like myself like to game, but won't require a 780m and a 10 lbs. machine to do it. As long as I can play most games in high settings and 1080p, I'll be a happy camper. The 765m seems to fill in that category, so with Quadzilla's mentioned points, this would be a great laptop for casual gamers.

    My knowledge is limited, but I wanted to confirm... If a soldered card is fried, the entire laptop is basically useless, right?
     
  45. uzun

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    I guess that means a choice between the GE 70 and this. Similar size and weight but the GE 70 is customizable,while the GS 70 is thinner and seems more polished. Going to be a hard choice for me if the CPU is soldered on this one (although I would probably still opt for the GS70, I wish it had a 4800 at least in it). Other than Razer no one else even has a decent 17 inch Haswell under 6 lbs. Or am I missing someone else's offering?
     
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    The 4700CPU is quite potent but i guess that really depends if you have a specific need for a faster CPU ? People always say you are wasting your money on a CPU upgrade and 99% of the time i would say yeah but there is the 1% who do tons of video encoding etc and really need all the processing power they can get. Also it might not be a good idea to run anything bigger then a 4700 in it . Apple does it every year in there Macbooks but those guys are always looking at crazy CPU temps once they step into the bigger more power hungry CPUs and they are running at 105c throttling all to heck.

    Clearly this thing is more polished in all regards and so is the price tag in comparison to the GE70 but also less then the Razer Blade . Seems MSI knew right where to come in at regarding price and being competitive with similar machines.
     
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    I use it when I travel to run Adobe Premiere Pro, I would like to have a 4800MQ or 4900MQ CPU, which have the same power draw as the 4700. Not sure if they run hotter or not though. Does anyone know if the 4800MQ or 4900MQ run any hotter than the 4700MQ does? They are all 3 rated at 47W.

    I'm not real concerned price wise between the different models. The Razer is out because it offers no expandability, even of the RAM and you cant have a second hard drive at all. The GE70 is attractive because you can put a 4900 in it and it has a DVD/BD drive, and isnt very heavy compared to other 17" laptops. The GS70 is the best of all but will probably limit me to a 4700MQ, which is likely to be enough, I am using a 2820QM now anyways, but I'd like to have a 4800 or 4900.
     
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    They are faster so they will run hotter but by how much who knows . On bigger machines with beefier heatsinks they get hotter by a decent margin. i know the 3840QM i had in my M17xR4 ran hot and the guy i sold it to was upset because he never saw a CPU running so hot (high 80s low 90s sometimes) just as an example . With smaller heatsinks which the GS70 will undoubtedly have those temps would be worse like they are on the Apple machines.

    I am really surprised this is not coming with a 4702 CPU because its 37w and would really make alot more sense for its design.

    Also i just noticed this says 4700HQ so i was right these are soldered CPUs like the Asus G750 uses which means 0 upgrade on the CPU front. Was not paying close enough attention to the specs when MSI dragon first posted the links.
     
  49. uzun

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    I would think since the 4700MQ, 4800MQ and 4900MQ are all rated 47W, they would put out the same amount of heat as one another. I thought the 4700MQ was used because its a much cheaper part for OEM's being OEM only.
     
  50. Quadzilla

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    Each CPU runs XXX mhz faster then the part before it . Of course it will run hotter that is just normal with anything really. You cant expect something that is 300-500mhz faster to run at the same temperature.

    The HQ is the soldered one and i do believe the absolute cheapest of the bunch since it is BGA meaning soldered to the board and no pins so less to manufacture and less complicated i suppose.
     
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