Msi Ms-1221

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Just came across this laptop and really thought that it would make an interesting 12 incher as my future portable laptop.

Wasn't able to find any additional pictures or even the dimensions!

Would really love to see a review of this laptop if anyone has seen one!

Let's know what you think of this machine!!

Specs:

Processor
Support Intel® Merom FSB800 CPU T7100/7300/7500/7700

Chipset
Intel® GM965 + ICH8-M

Graphics & Video Module
Intel® embedded GMA X3100

Main Memory
DDR2 533/667 SO-DIMM x 2 slots, MAX: 2GB

Display
12.1" WXGA ( 1280 x 800 )

PC Cards Slot
None

Card Reader
SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro 4-in-1 Card Reader

Hard Disk Drive
Supports SATA HDD

Optical Drive
Built-in Super-Multi Drive (supports DVD RAM)

LAN/Modem
Realtek Gigabit LAN + 56K Modem

Wireless LAN
Supports Intel® PCI-Express mini card 4965 & 3945

Bluetooth
Built-in MS-6837D Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR USB Module

Rovson support
Yes ( PCI-Express mini card slot )

Built-in CMOS Camera
1.3 Mega Pixels

TPM
Not available

Security Feature
Built-in Biometric Fingerprint Sensor

I/O Ports
• Express Card : 1
• Monitor ( VGA ) : 15 pin D-Sub x 1
• HDMI : 1
• USB 2.0 : 3
• IEEE 1394 : None
• MIC-in : 1
• Headphone out : 1
• RJ11 : 1
• RJ45 : 1
• TV-Out : None

Audio
Realtek ALC 883H

Short-Cut Keys
Power on, Email, Internet, Wireless LAN, Personal Setting

Battery Pack & Life
Li-ion 8 cells battery (4400mAh)

AC Adapter
19V DC, 90W/Input: 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal

Dimension
???

Weight
4.50 lbs ( full system with 8 cell battery )

Link to product description from MSI is here.

 

(Wasn't able to find any additional pictures or even the dimensions!)

Dimension = 303(L) X 231.5(D) X 16-29.5(H)mm

As soon as the notebook arrives next week we will have some pics available....

 

Thanks for the tip. Really looking forward to seeing pics of this laptop.

So the max height is about 1.18" approximately, i think. Not bad.

Do you think we could expect a mini review with pics, covering a few things like battery life, keyboard, etc?

 

I'll do my best..............

 

I'm really considering getting that notebook when it comes out but have a few questions. When you finally get it, I just want to know if there is room to install the wifi module and the turbo memory module?

 

Yes, this model has two mini PCI-e slots to support 1 turbo memory and 1 wifi card.

 

This model is available now!!!

 

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Some pics would be crazy ... no not crazy ... eye-popping methinks

Also, another question, since this laptop has 2 pci-e slots .... in case i don't want robson, do you think that there will be other peripherals that may be connected to the available slot?

 

http://global.msi.com.tw/html/popup/NB/PR200/index.html

http://global.msi.com.tw/html/popup/NB/PR200/Demo/index.html
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1208&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=270

same specs, same size

 

already ordered PR200 ( ms-1221 is a barebone version of it ) from germany
as i live in Rome , hope to get it next week !!!

Was curious to know if the barebone version includes DTV (digital tv) tuner ?

my PR200 specs:

CPU T7300
160GB HD + 2GB RAM + 1GB TurboMemory

 

is the top lid glossy?

 

The spec says 4400mAh for the 8 Cell battery. Could someone tell me either the Voltage or the Watt Hour number of the battery? If you've got one, how long can it play DVDs?

Thanks

Edit: Thanks to rkcomputer.net, it's a 14.4V which works out to be 63.36 Watt Hours.
I really wish they would offer something closer to the Dell M1210's 85WHr 9 cell.

 

We will have the 1221 pics up on tuesday but here are the 1222 pics. Same chassis and color:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/downloads/photos/ms-1222/index.html

 

No, flat black finish..............

 

I have to buy this laptop now .... i thought the lid was glossy and that was holding me back .... but now i know that its not!

And the pictures are simply tooooooo hot!

Though there is just one gripe left : Battery Life.

Could anyone tell me what 63.36 Watt Hours compares to in real life hours?

 

Reviews of the s262/1057 had the 8 cell getting over 3 hours
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2948

However, another review of the s262 had the 4 cell getting over 2 hours
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-Megabook-S262.1293.0.html

I'm guessing it'll be any where between 3 and 4+ hours depending on what your settings are and what you're doing. It also depends on the components you choose to put in the thing. For example some hard drives can consume a whole extra Watt compared to others at idle.

 

battery life would be important so i'll probably go for a 5400 rpm drive.

Also I really want the T7300 (4MB L2) with it but will it affect battery life noticeably as compared to the T7100?

Edit: Also since this is a newer platform than the S262 don't you think better battery life can be expected over the previous generation?

 

If you have the time you can look up each hard drive's power consumption numbers on the manufacturer's website. The >1W difference I quoted was between two 5400RPM drives of the same capacity and interface. I highly doubt the power consumption difference will be that large between the T7100 and T7300. Yes Santa Rosa is supposed to and has been shown to give better battery life but I have no idea how much of an improvement it will be in the 1221/pr200.

 

that's quite crazy about the two 5400 rpm drives having different power consumptions. I guess some more research is in order. Thanks for the info.

 

Did a quick check on the 1222 model for battery life and playing a dvd we were able to get 3 hours and 20 miniutes out of a full charge. The turions tend to consume a little more power so the 1221 should go a bit longer. I will have an answer for you by tuesday evening.

This is the config we used:

MS-1222
TL-66
Radeon Xpress 1270
4GB Kingston
Seagate 100GB 7200RPM SATA
MS-6877 Wireless
8 Cell (4400mAh) stock battery
Vista Ultimate in Power saver mode-stock settings, made no changes to power plan or ATI Control.

 

Thanks Rob,

That's really great news.

 

Got you answer for the MS-1221 battery life, playing a dvd and the config below we were able to get 3:55 form a full battery charge.


MS-1221
T7500
Intel X3100
4GB Kingston
Intel Turbo Memory 1GB
Toshiba 200GB 4200RPM SATA
Intel 4965 Wireless
8 Cell (4400mAh) stock battery
Vista Ultimate in Power saver mode-stock settings, made no changes to power plan.

 

MS-1221 Photos:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/downloads/photos/ms-1221/index.html

 

I'm very interested in the PR200 as well! Would like to use it in the train, but also to play HD-content through HDMI. So if anybody has tried the HDMI output please let me know the quality, and if this machine is capable of processing 720p/1080i/1080p... (using x264 e.g.).

 

From what I've read the x3100 graphics solution is quite capable of handling 1080p resolution so i guess that you should be able to process HD video and be able to view it through the HDMI port.

 

As dolto said yes it does, this is from the intel GMA product brief:


Intel Graphics allow the PC to connect to a wide range of digital displays and resolutions, including the latest digital interfaces like HDMI. In addition, Intel Graphics
support all high-definition resolutions, including 720p, 1080i, and 1080p.

Here is the link:

http://download.intel.com/products/graphics/intel_graphics_guide.pdf


The intel X3100 is not a bad graphics solution, it actually scores just below the NV 8400 in the Vista experience index.

 

I'm pretty curious to see when Intel releases more updated drivers that fully utilize the x3100.. it should improve things much more.

 

In the graphics pdf it says DX 10 support Q1 2008...........

 

In 3DMark benchmarking, it comes very close to the scores of the previous generation dedicated graphic cards, which is very nice. Once the updated drivers come out, as Goren said performance should improve by a ways, so it should actually out perform stuff like the Go7400 and X1400. Coming from Intel, thats pretty good!

This seems like a very nice laptop, but the only thing that concerns me is the 4.5lb weight. There are many larger screened/higher specced notebooks that weigh less (Sony SZ, Asus Z35 and W7, XPS M1210 and M1330, etc), so I was wondering what exactly made it weigh so much. Is it the 8 cell battery?

 

I would say yes. The 8 cell makes up a pretty good chunk of the weight.

 

Hmm, the 8 cell doesn't seem to offer exceptional battery life or anything though. The Lenovo X61 with similar specs and the 8 cell battery can hit 5 hours pretty easily, and DCF quotes 4-5 hours in his review.

 

RobM...

Hello! Can you tell me what the case / LCD lid are made of? Are they metal / aluminium/magnesium alloy like the S271/MS1057(8)? I currently own an S271 and love that its case / LCD lid are so rugged.

If the ms-1221 is as well built as my current S271 I'll probably order one from you ASAP!

Thanks in advance!

JWB

 

Interesting notebook and reasonable price. I am kind of dissapointed to see the Ms-1221 does not come in white like the old 12 inch models. But there is really nothing wrong with the classic silver and black. No glossy lid is a plus as I am about fed up with that trend. It is however heavir than even the Lenovo 3000 V200 with the 8 cell battery. Looking at MSI's webbie I see there are some other interested looking new models. I'll be interesting to see which ones make it to America. The GX700 looks like a real show stopper. I also wonder what ever happened to the 12 incher announced in the newsbits a while back... this doesn't look like it, I'll have to go search around so I can dig up a model number for it.

 

The ms-1221 is also available in white ... thats the one that was announced a while back in the newsbits!

 

Oh really? That's pretty nifty. Looks like I don't need to be dissapointed there anymore. =P

 

I think the white model is called the MSI PR200.

Can you guys tell me about this MS-1221 sold here for $631.64?

http://www.monstronix.com/122115001-p-370453.html

MSI COMPUTER 122115-001
Intel Core 2,Black,Intel GM965+ICH8-M,DDR2 533/667 SODIMM,2GB,12.1 inch,10/100/1000-Gigabit,DVD Super-Multi,MS-1221

Monstronix says they have no information on it and hope to get it when they get the models in stock on the 28th. It seems from the product description that 2 gigs of ram are included? Do you think the hard drive, processor, etc are included? Thanks.

 

Its just the barebone from what I can see .... i think the 2gb indicates the maximum RAM.

 

Huh, I thought these could take up to 4gb ram?

 

The bottom door appears to be the same white metal, i will checkout the rest and let you know.

 

RobM,

Thanks! I work in NJ so I could stop by and have a look... I am very interested...

Thanks again,

JWB

 

Yea Rob, if you can confirm this is a decently built laptop I may be ordering one.

 

Both the Lid and lower case appear to be the white metal, without removing the lid can't 100% confirm.

 

The bottom cover is magnesium; it actually says Mg at one spot. The lid feels similar so it's probably the same thing. Everything else is plastic, not exactly the best plastic in the world but I'm a bit spoiled.

Rob / RKC was very responsive and very detail oriented. So props to them.

 

Review: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2295&cid=14&pg=1

Meanwhile the price has gone up from about 1000 euros to 1300euros here in Holland, and not in stock to date

 

2 months are very long for waiting this thing still not available in germany, i'll better take some other santarosa notebook of some serious company, going to ask for a refund. Hating a lot this company for making me wait so much.

Any suggestions for similar or better products are well accepted..

thanks

 

In stock in Holland in some shops, and luckily the price has come down again to about 1000 euros.

 

Can you send me any/some links of shops ?

thanx in advance

 

http://www.icomputers.nl//articledetail.aspx?A_ID=11659

Seems the 1000 euro is an error again.... Prices are going up again to about 1300. What a mess the MSI distributor here in Holland makes

 

does anyone know a good reputable website that sells the MSI-1221 barebone? the 1221 looks awesome and I really want to build my own laptop based on that.

 

How does the MS 1222 (radeon xpress 1270) compare in 1080P output?