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    Msi Gx623 Battery issue

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by safura, May 16, 2011.

  1. safura

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    Hey all, yesterday i had to use my laptop on battery without DC. Im used to use my laptop on battery for like 1.5-2 hours on turbo battery mode, but yesterday my battery lasted less then 1 hour and then i had to hibernate and find DC to give it some more juice. Today i tried to use it again on turbo battery and keep my eyes on CPU speed and gpu speed. The intresting thing i found out was that my laptop doesnt bring cpu speed down but gpu comes down. When i remove DC and switch over to turbo battery mode by pressing ECO mode on then laptop panel the cpu keeps running at 2Ghz and uses a lot of power. I have E1CT enabled at bios and in windows my power plan shows at turbo battery : Min CPU usage : 0% max cpu usage 0%. I think my brother screwd it up somehow when he used some programs like what the hell is cpuGenie and throttleStop?

    So messy text :D. But the main problem is that the cpu doesnt lower clock on power save mode.
     
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    Anyone????
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    It's a myth that a 45nm Core 2 CPU consumes way more power at a high MHz when lightly loaded. Check out the two pictures in this post.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6369641-post5060.html

    High or low MHz or high or low VID voltage setting doesn't make any significant difference. The CPU uses the C3 sleep state when lightly loaded or idle where these settings are completely ignored. Have you tried monitoring power consumption?

    ThrottleStop does not make any long term changes to a computer. If you reboot and don't run the program, it won't be doing anything to your CPU.

    Go into the Control Panel - Power Options and set your Minimum processor state to a low number like 5%. That's probably what your brother was screwing around with that has caused the problem you are having.
     
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    okey tried but didnt help. Also i use windows 7 ultimate x86.My laptop needs to have Msi System control manager installed to use the turbo and touch buttons but i removed that incase that was to problem ,but the issue still remains.
    So i recored the issue :D YouTube - ‪c2d p7350 issue‬&rlm; << hope it helps
    The most amazin thing happens when i start throttlestop.
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Why have you disabled SpeedStep in the bios?

    Anyway, what am I supposed to see? Don't run ThrottleStop if you want your CPU to run nice and slow.
     
  6. safura

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    I disabled speedstep so i would go to its max speed(2GHz).But it didnt, still stays at 1.59Ghz(stuck at 1.59).
    Now i enabled the speedstep and it jumps around 1.59Ghz and 2.0Ghz but it woun't go down to SLFM at power save mode ,which should be 800mhz.

    EDIT: At this picture : Speedstep enabled,powerplan: powersave(min5%/max15%) [​IMG]

    EDIT: At this picture : Speedstep enabled,powerplan: powersave(min5%/max15%),ThrottleStop ON 4(battery)
    [​IMG]

    CONCLUSION: I want that my cpu would be like it is on the second picture WITHOUT i have to use throttlestop.
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    The SpeedStep option in your bios does not seem to work correctly. SpeedStep is the same as EIST. When you disable this in the bios, it is actually still enabled as I saw in your video. Anyway, on a Core 2 CPU, you should always have this enabled in your bios unless you are using Dual IDA mode which your bios does not support.

    Your bios did not enable SLFM mode. Do you know why? Because on some laptops it does not save any power. Power consumption can increase slightly when you use SLFM so some laptop manufacturers probably disable this useless feature.

    You will need to use some third party software to turn on SLFM if that's what you want to do. I suggest that you do some battery power consumption monitoring first. SLFM might not show the power savings that you think it will show.
     
  8. safura

    safura Newbie

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    okey seems reasonable. But when i bought this laptop, it was running on 800MHz aka SLFM when it was on power save and when i changed it to high performance then i would stay at 2Ghz , and if i use balanced mode then it was jumping around 800-2000Mhz depending on load. What caused this strange anomaly? Cause i first touth it was throttlestop and i changed something but now im clueless,nothing to blame on :D
    Im gonna find some wattmeter to get confirmation if SLFM is good or bad .
     
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    Are you using the same operating system as when you bought the laptop?

    Here is some more user testing which shows SLFM mode is a myth at saving power.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/7461632-post27.html

    These CPUs automatically enter deeper sleep states where these settings are meaningless anyhow at idle so you're best off just forgetting about SLFM mode. It looked good on paper but in reality, it doesn't save you anything on a 45nm Core 2 CPU. It was more useful on the original 65nm CPUs.
     
  10. safura

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    Same os when i bought it : Win 7 Ultimate x86
    Okey few hours of testing is done now
    Tests were incorrect. SLFM on or off doesn't make a difference afterall.
    At performance monitor when watching discharge rate ,SLFM on and SLFM off doesnt make a difference att all.So basiclly SLFM on 800MHz 0.875V Vs SLFM off 1.6Ghz 1V = same.
    [Case Closed]