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    Msi Gt680 & Gx680

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Arioch, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. Arioch

    Arioch Notebook Consultant

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    Well, here are the future replacements for the current GT663 & GX660, acoording to Portables4Gamers.

    It includes the new Intel platform Sandy Bridge and the GX680 will feature the AMD Radeon HD 6870M.

    Some specs:

    GT680

    • Processor: Intel Core i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz)
    • Chipset: Intel QM67
    • Memory: 4 to 8GB DDR3 1333MHz
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
    • Display: 15.6 "Full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels)
    • Storage: 500GB 7200RPM


    GX680

    • Processor: Intel Core i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz)
    • Chipset: Intel QM67
    • Memory: 4 to 8GB DDR3 1333MHz
    • Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 6870
    • Display: 15.6 "Full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels)
    • Storage: 500GB 7200RPM


    The web says January 2011 as probable presentation.


    Original news: Portables4Gamers MSI GX680 et GT680 ?

    French/english google translation: Google Traductor

    Interesting PDF included in the original news: http://portables4gamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/msi-gt680-gx680.pdf
     
  2. Audi4ever

    Audi4ever Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting...do you think the AMD Radeon HD 6870 would bee faster than the GTX460?
     
  3. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    These information are speculations, as they only appear on the one Web page that the OP has linked.
     
  4. Arioch

    Arioch Notebook Consultant

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    Do you think so? It seems like a leak to me as the source appears to be a shop or something like that.
     
  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    They actually make sense, but lets forget the part about the 1080p panel
     
  6. Phinagle

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    HD6870M shouldn't end up AMD's fastest mobile this series the HD6970M should be. The HD6870M may in fact end up being a rebrand of Mob HD5870.
     
  7. Rhadamanthis

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    exaxtly but, i aspect 580m gtx by nvidia (if not re branded)
     
  8. Arioch

    Arioch Notebook Consultant

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    Why? What's wrong with the panel?
     
  9. Septimus_DSX

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    I don't think you will see these before Apple's products.
     
  10. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I just dont believe it, btw Arioch how are your temps? I have the same setup except in the chassis of the ex625 and the oc is 700/1000

    although I cant play COD with that, otherwise all the other games perform admirably
     
  11. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    If the information was genuine, it would appear on other Websites as well.
     
  12. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    bunch of numbers that have no meaning.
     
  13. ECKS

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    Will either of these have switchable/optimus graphics capabilities, since SB has the IGP? Also, will basically all lappies with a SB cpu have switchable graphics, regardless of which discrete GPU it actually houses?

    Can't wait! Hooray for long battery life + super gaming power!! <-- correct this statement, if it's not true.

    Thanks!
     
  14. AsusS

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    Even a simple 6 hours of battery on performance mode would be nice however with the 9 cell being the best they can achieve now lets hope we see bigger variants but smaller designs due to better Tech,
     
  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Even though the IGP will share the SB die, I don't think every notebook will have switchable graphics because you need to add a MUX (and that costs money).
     
  16. @tilla

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    Idk what AMD is developing in 6xxx gen, but Optimus don't need multiplexers. All output is running through the IGP. FYI

    Interessting is the IGP in the new quadcore i7.
     
  17. Phinagle

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    AMD's version of Optimus is called Dynamic SG....still nothing on if it requires an additional MUX yet.
     
  18. ECKS

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    Still can't wait! :)
     
  19. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Hmm. I'm not very excited about these upcoming laptops, if the specs are true.
     
  20. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah with a gaming notebook you really need a good jump in GPU performance to have something to get excited about.

    I would love it if MSI made a 16" notebook with SLI/xfire
     
  21. ECKS

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    Well, hopefully something with power like today's setup of [i7-740qm + gtx 460m], but with additional IGP and is kept under $1200 will release :)
     
  22. Bearclaw

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    If people start getting rid of that damn outdated and useless optical drive there would be SLI/Xfire setups in 15inch notebooks.
     
  23. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I agree, if you need an optical drive, can just use an external one through esata.
     
  24. ECKS

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    True dat. I can't remember when the last time I used my optical drive. I do need a blu-ray drive though--they are usable in external cases, right?
     
  25. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Why not :confused:

    Just a quick ebay search shows a few external blu-ray drives.

    The only problem I could see is having enough power for the drive (could use AC power if needed), apart from that it should be perfect through esata.
     
  26. ECKS

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    So the GT and GX will both have esata and usb3.0, right?
     
  27. moral hazard

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    I read that right now drives are still faster through esata than USB3.0.

    And since the GT/GX660 has both esata and USB3.0, I guess the 680 will also.
     
  28. Phinagle

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    Where the frig is the GT/GX 760 already.
     
  29. Kevin

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    GX680 is such a waste, if the 6870m is the 5870m.
     
  30. Phinagle

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    Wasn't to long ago that you didn't find top model cards in less than a 17" chassis because of the GPU's TDP. ;)
     
  31. Affirmative Inaction

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    Amen. Lets give some credit where credit is due to ATI/nVidia sticking in some top-level single GPUs in 15 inch form factors.

    I even saw some of those benchmarks on that GTX 470 over on the Sager forums. Impressive stuff in a 15" form factor. Perhaps a bit higher performance-per-dollar than the 5870, but just a great architecture to build on.

    As not a huge fanboy of either company, I think it's completely safe to say that the Mobility 5870 from AMD is the hands-down winner of mobile GPU of the year for 2010. Introduced in January, and still the 2nd best (I do my part to ignore the 480m where the price and power required is just silly) GPU on the market after a year.

    Good stuff. I remember three years ago, when I got my ASUS 13.3" and it actually had a DEDICATED CARD in it, how big a deal that was. Three years from now, 13.3" form-factors will have something that knocks a 5870 out of the water.

    The product wars lead to the consumers being the winners....

    (Unless you were waiting for a 5xx or 6xxx series GPU, oops.)
     
  32. ECKS

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    Could care less which company provides the discrete GPU, as long as it can play what I need. With SB's release in the near future, I foresee myself FINALLY getting a F%^&(@* laptop, lolz. HOpefully it'll be in a 13 or 14" chassis though, as I'm too petite for anything over 15" :p These MSI's are looking really good though, if their price can be low.
     
  33. Phinagle

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    Less than two years hopefully. AMD Trinity APU with a 28nm discrete in Crossfire. :swoon:
     
  34. ice2642

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    appears be cool this notebooks.

    it has a dynaudio sound too ?

    BR
     
  35. drfelip

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    Sure, at least the GT680R does, so I suppose the GX680 too.
     
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    Then will the GT680 bee out?. 18162 points in vantage.....sick
     
  38. moral hazard

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    That's PCmark vantage, not 3dmark vantage.

    So it's not that impressive (still very good).
     
  39. drfelip

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    It's going to be launched at CES, but I don't know when it's going to be available.

    18000 points in PCMark Vantage seems too high to me, at least for the expected specifications...
     
  40. Kevin

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    Why does MSI always claim bs?

    " The fastest gaming notebook ever to be unveiled at CES 2011"

    They claimed the same thing, at the release of that notebook which had a GTS 250M GDDR3.

    Just keep it real. Lol @ running PCMark Vantage, as if that means anything.
     
  41. kryztal2243

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    So, difference in game performance will not be significant comparing GX660R/GT663 with GT680/GX680?
     
  42. flubadoo

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    Well, they do have the 2nd generation Sandy Bridge, which helps in CPU intensive games, and the 6870M is a good jump up from the 5870M, even if it is a rebrand.
     
  43. ECKS

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    Will the QM67 allow switchable graphics options on these lappies?
     
  44. Phinagle

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    Intel doesn't make a QM67 chipset.

    The spec page for the MSI GT680 is up now and it lists a PM 67 chipset.

    http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT680.html#/?div=Specification

    Problem with that is Intel doesn't make a PM67 chipset either. The MSI is likely using the P67 chipset like the new Alienware M17x.

    The P67 chipset doesn't support Sandy Bridge's IGP so no switchable graphics.
     
  45. ECKS

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    Aw shucks...that's a bummer.

    So what's the name of the chipset that supports SB's IGP+switchable graphics?
     
  46. Phinagle

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    HM65 or HM67.

    It's still up to the notebook manufacturer to support switchable graphics though.
     
  47. drfelip

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    I got an early sample of the GT680R and AIDA64 reports the chipset as an HM67 (more info coming soon).
     
  48. Phinagle

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    I guess that's why they put the disclaimer on the bottom of the page.


    There is no mention of Optimus or switchable graphics on the GT680 feature page and that's a feature they tend to highlight on the MSI notebooks that do support it.
     
  49. ECKS

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    Yah. It'll be the day when any company offers a high end gpu (example: ati 5870m or nvidia 460m) and also have switchable graphics... Closest so far is the Asus N53sv, but only has a mid-end gpu (nvidia 540m).

    I mean, do owners of gaming lappies not travel or anything? Why is there no perceived need for longer than 3 hour battery life?
     
  50. Abula

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    Well the 540 seems like a very decent mid end card, performance is close to Nvidia GTX260, so imo is a good choice, now with N53 even with the optimus is not getting much battery life due to the 6 cell battery asus put in, i seen coments around 2 hours :p .

    I travel every working day, and i do take my laptop with me and play almost all nights, and while i would wish better battery life, i have accepted it wont happen soon, and most of the time im plugged, so at the end is more a convenience than a need.

    Well i think manufacturers dont want to get into issue with their high end, atm a lot of people are bad mouthing optimus with pb problems and some saying it has issues with switching in some apps. I think ATI switchable solution is better for high end, but in either case, i think all manufacturers don't want to dip in another variable that could bash their line, if other manufacturers aren't taking risks.

    It seems your are set on battery life, so you might consider droping from the high end gpus, and just go with mid end like Acer 4820TG, i bet they gona refresh it soon, maybe ATI 6500 and Intel SB.
     
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