Msi FORCE 1727/ i7-720QM/ ATI Mobility Radeon? HD5870 1024MB /GDDR5 DX11 > $1356.33

It would be nice to know if this system be running cool !
The price seems very attractive but ?

 

Does this mean xoticPC has actually tested the laptop? I want to see some benchmarks and temps... especially temps.

 

Huraaaaaaaay

Great price

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No money lololol, ima happy anhow.

 

Only 2gb of memory though. Quite weird. Adding two more makes it more expensive with regular pricing. However, general upgrades are way more economical overall; if you want to go with a 820qm, you ought to go with the Force rebrand for better pricing. Or just order the barebones.

If XoticPC wanted the price to make it look more attractive, they should have lowered the HDD capacity; not the RAM... 4gb RAM is a must for gaming running on a 64bit OS.

 

XTOPIC has them but no words or reviews that i know> me too i like to see temps and benchmarks

besides to upgrade the cpu on this model the prices is very attractive

 

I don't believe that 4gb nonsense, i rarely find my ram above 2

And ram is cheap anyway,

720qm is fine too and hdds are also cheap.

 

Is this same as the MSI GX740? same barebone?



Thank you

 

It is the Gx740 barebone

 

No it is not the Gx740 this one is barebone Force 1727 the must interesting thing to me is the upgrade to 820qm wish is only 199 usa while in the Gx 740 the upgrade to q820 is 575, even theASUS G73JH-A2 with same cpu it goes to $2059.22 so The Force 1727 is the cheapest in the market $1641.36
you end-up with

FORCE 1727 (Built on the MSI-1727)

- 17" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)

- Intel® Core™ i7-820QM, 1.73-3.06GHz, (45nm, 8MB L3 cache)

- - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU

- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11

- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)

- - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive w/ Software-

- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)

- Internal 5-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/ xD-P)

- Internal Bluetooth + EDR

- -Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module

- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera

- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included

- Smart Li-ion Battery ( 9-Cell) -

- 1 Year Complete Care Warranty - 1 Year Parts with 2nd Day Shipping, 24/7 Telephone Tech Support & Lifetime Labor Warranty

.......But nothing is been said about temps

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-1727-built-msi1727-p-2662.html?wconfigure=yes

 

I was looking there too but i found this where i purchased my last 2 MSI notebooks. They have the same notebook up to a 920XM CPU and a 2nd day air 1 year warranty, and also a 3 year next day air warranty for minimal price and both with 24/7 tech support:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcnotebooks/index.php?l=product_detail&p=255


I also found benchmarks in their forum tonight for this model:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcforum/viewtopic.php?t=1799

 

I found benchmarks for the MS-1727 here tonight:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcforum/viewtopic.php?t=1799

 

Fantastic, thats all i can say, what a spectacular model!

 

I agree, it looks like they have that notebook kicking A@S.

So far i have not seen any other benchmarks for the GX740 or the new MS-1727

 

That's what i said , it's the barebone ..... whether it's called force/whitebook or whatever you wanna name it , it is the Gx740 Barebone

 

Can you tell me the diference in everyday use of both the Barbone 1727 with the Msi Gx740

here with specification :

Msi Gx740

Display

* 17" WSXGA+ Super Clear Glossy Glare Screen (1680x1050)

Processor & Chipset

* Intel® Core™ Mobile i7 Quad Core Mobile Processors
* Chipset: Intel® HM55 Express Chipset

Storage & Drives

* 1 Detachable 2.5" 9.5mm (H) SATA Hard Disk Drives
* 1 12.7mm (H) Optical Drive Bay, ATA Interface,
Interchangeable with DVD±R/RW Combo drive, Blu-ray/DVD±R/RW Combo Drive

Memory

* 64-bit wide DDRIII data channel
* Two 204Pin SODIMM sockets
* Expandable up to 8GB DDRIII 1066MHz

Video Controller

* ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 (Built-in GDDR5 1024MB)
* PCI-Express™ 16X
* Microsoft® DirectX® 11 Compatible
* Dual-View capable Supports two different applications open at one time; one on the External Monitor, and one on the Laptop Screen. Multi-tasking has never been more convenient.

Audio & Multimedia Features

* Support Dolby® Digital Live
* 3D Stereo Enhanced Sound System
* S/PDIF output
* 1 Built-in Microphone
* 2 Built-in Speakers
* Sound Blaster compatible

Network / Communication

* Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
* Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.0+EDR
* Integrated 802.11 b/g/n

Keyboard / Pointing Device

* Full Sized 103 Key Chiclet Keyboard with Numeric Key Pad
* Windows Hot keys
* Programmable Hot Key
* Overclocking Hot Keys
* Integrated Touchpad with Scrolling function

Operating System / Utilities

* Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium

Slots

* 1 Express Card 34 / 54 Slot
* 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS Pro)


Input / Output Ports

* 1 x Microphone-in jack
* 1 x Line-in jack
* 1 x Headphone jack
* 1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor
* 2 x USB 2.0 ports
* 1 x IEEE 1394 port
* 1 x RJ45 LAN
* 1 x HDMI
* 1 x E-SATA/USB 2.0 Combo

Power System

* 9 cell smart Lithium-Ion battery pack
* Output: 19V DC, 120W
* Input: 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal

Cooling

* Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound optional
* Copper CPU Heatsink

Size & Weight

* 7.04lbs with 9-cell battery
* 15.56 "(L) x 10.95 "(W) x 1.04"~1.38"(H)

Additional Features

* Kensington® Lock
* Built-in 2.0M Digital Video Camera
* MSI Back Pack Included

...............................................................
Msi FORCE 1727

Display

* 17" (16:10) WSXGA+ (1680x1050) with Super Clear Glare Type Screen

Processor & Chipset

* Intel® Core™ Mobile i7, Intel® Core™2 Quad Mobile Processors
* Chipset: Intel® PM55 Express Chipset

Storage & Drives

* 1 Detachable 2.5" 9.5mm (H) SATA Hard Disk Drives
* 1 12.7mm (H) Optical Drive Bay, ATA Interface,
Interchangeable with DVD±R/RW Combo drive, Blu-ray/DVD±R/RW Combo Drive

Memory

* 64-bit wide DDRIII data channel
* Two 204Pin SODIMM sockets
* Expandable up to 8GB DDRIII 1333MHz

Video Controller

* ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 GDDR5 1024MB
* PCI-Express™ 16X
* Microsoft® DirectX® 11 Compatible
* HDCP supported
* Dual-View capable Supports two different applications open at one time; one on the External Monitor, and one on the Laptop Screen. Multi-tasking has never been more convenient.

Audio & Multimedia Features

* Built-in HD Audio Codec (Realtek ALC888)
* 4 Multi-Function Audio Ports Support 7.1 Surround Sound
* Compliant with Universal Audio Architecture
* 1 Built-in Microphone
* 4 Built-in Speakers + Subwoofer
* Sound Blaster compatible

Network / Communication

* Built-in 56K MDC modem with V.90 & V.92 compliant
* Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
* Bluetooth™ V2.0 + EDR module
* Internal 802.11a/b/g/n wireless LAN

Keyboard / Pointing Device

* Full Sized Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
* Windows Hot keys + 3 Launch Keys Camera, WIFI and User Programmable
* Integrated Fn Hot Keys for Touchpad On/Off, LCD Brightness, Speaker Volume, Mute, Suspend, Panel/CRT Display
* Integrated Touchpad with Scrolling function


Input / Output Ports

* 1 VGA output Port
* 1 HDMI output Port
* 1 eSATA/USB Combo Port
* 3 USB 2.0 Ports + 1 ESATA / USB Combo Port
* 4 Multi-Purpose Audio Ports - Line in, Mic in, Headphone out, S/PDIF
* 1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
* 1 RJ-11 Modem
* 1 S/PDIF output

Slots

* 1 Express Card 34 / 54 Slot
* 5-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/ xD-P)
* 2 MiniCard Slots (1st for WLAN, 2nd for Turbo Memory Module

Power System

* 1 Removable 6 cells smart Lithium-Ion battery pack, 4800mAh/79.9Whr. >>is writing included (9 Cell Battery Optional)
* Full Range AC-in 90~264V, 47~63Hz, DC output: 90W with 19V AC Adapter

Cooling

* Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound standard
* Copper CPU Heatsink

Size & Weight

* 7.9 LBs with Battery Pack
* 15.55" (w) x 10.94" (d) x 1.32" ~ 1.56" (h)

Additional Features

* Kensington® Lock
* Built-in 2.0M Digital Video Camera

 

The only difference between the 2 is the HM vs PM chipset.

HM55 technically better as it can support more processors (i3 etc) and has some extra features.

No everyday usage difference in whichever you choose.

 

What about the Overclocking Hot Keys can we live with out it !!

Also curious about >>> MSI 1727 Keyboard
Date Added: Monday 05 April, 2010
Our Price: $75.00 what ever that could be ??

 

What overclocking hotkeys ? there's none on the GX740. and as far as i know , only the extreme i7 are overclockable.

EDIT: why don't you contact the reseller ?

 

Under specification >> Msi Gx740


Keyboard / Pointing Device

* Full Sized 103 Key Chiclet Keyboard with Numeric Key Pad
* Windows Hot keys
* Programmable Hot Key
* Overclocking Hot Keys
* Integrated Touchpad with Scrolling function

 

There's no such thing , either you get in touch with MSI or contact xoticpc and see who's right.

The old Gseries had that useless crap ...


http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=271&prod_no=1999

 

Dead, didn't mandrake actually link someone overclocking the 640's 720qm?

 

Yeah , but so far no one has tried it , no concrete proof

 

Right, we need to get some unlucky sod then . hahaha!

 

Need to convince someone down the Gx640 thread , but doubt they will be keen.

Man the good ol days are over .. kinda quiet in the MSI threads now

 

In our section anyway :/ atleast until we do something stupid, or do the project freeze mod xD.

 

The only difference I see between the two are cosmetic.
Everything else is the same.
Barebones is the way to go if your into installing your own hardware
which I am!

 

Soon , still waiting for my delivery .. then we can kick start the whole thing.

 

GX740 = GT735D with new hardware inside NO ?

Windows ®. I, no longer blocked. MSI recommends Windows operating system.

MSI GT735D
• AMD Turion ™ X2 dual-core processor Extreme Edition
• Windows Vista ® Home Premium
• 17-inch Widescreen Glare
• MSI exclusive TDE "a key overclocking" technology
• MSI exclusive ECO energy-saving power management system
• Brushed aluminum-magnesium alloy shell and the surface texture design
• Top Ati Radeon Mobility HD3850 3D graphics card, 512MB dedicated graphics memory
• Theater Class 4 speakers and a subwoofer overweight
• HDMI High Definition Multimedia Interface
• Built-in 2 million pixel camera
• 802.11 b / g / n wireless LAN and Bluetooth module (optional



So there is nothing new about the looks it seems to exist since long time ago

http://www.msi-china.com.cn/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=615&prod_no=1413

 

Pre-configured : black & red
barebones. : black & grey , with the ability to use your own components.

Go and do your homework.

And Stop with the 'overclocking hot key' in bold as there's none ... Is it that hard to digest ? Go and ask a reseller , there's many here on NBR.

 

So when you getting yours D2W?
What specs?

 

I will wait a bit as there's still plenty of life left in the GT725
Clevo is calling my name though ! , whichever i choose , it will definitely has an Extreme CPU in it

Hopefully by the time i'm ready , there will be a crossfire setup for the 58** That will seal the deal for me

How about you ? You seems to be in the hunt , anything yet ?

 

I'm in the same boat.
MSI and CLEVO for me too bro!
Personaly I'm leaning to a W860CU/NP8690 like you want to get a Xtreme CPU but I got a little time to wait too.
Big thing I'm waiting for is the i7-940XM which I've heard might be out in a few months and should a little faster but at the same price as a i7-920XM.
But waiting sucks...I'm getting the itch to get one now.
My second choice would be the GX640, only cause it's cheaper but still has almost the same performance as the 5870( I'd guess about 10%-15% slower)
I will have me a new laptop,question is can I save enough money for what I want.

 

Welcome to the club The other thing i will consider is parts availability for upgrade (mainly GPU). How easy is it to get a GPU upgrade from sager/clevo ? As MSI won't sell any parts to customer ...

Hmmm 940xm , will it come in ES flavour ?
Don't forget , good things come to those who wait

 

There are many resellers that will sell you parts( GPU,CPU,etc) RJTech is one of them and they have them just for CLEVO's.
So upgrading Is not a problem in that dept.
Lol.. As for ES 940XM, I'm sure when they are released we will see some for sale but don't you know it's illegal to have a ES CPU.

 

Forgot about Rj , Eurocom is kinda pricey .. I'm 80% certain i will go clevo.
I know , check sig

 

I like your style man!
That's one sweet setup, never knew you can OC a Q9200 so high.

 

Thanks ! Can wait to get my hands on one of those Extreme i7s , should be fun

It depends on the chip. some managed to oc the Q9000 to 2.7/2.8 apparently ,pretty kool.