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    MSI's NEW Intel 5th Generation Line-up!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015.

  1. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Well, the Intel Gen 5 processors are here, and other great next-gen tech is on the horizon..... SOON! I am thinking another awesome MSI flagship purchase this fall. ;)

    GT80

    GT72 w/G-Sync

    GS70

    GS60

    GE72 & GE62

    Enjoy!

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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    New models with ddr4?
     
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    Not yet...... but on the horizon...... SOON! :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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    Nice find, but the score reflects the 960M, and doesn't speak much to the CPU (not recognized by the benchmark, ergo benchmark is not optimized). I want to see the temps...... at 14nm (vise 22nm), the new processors are sure to be more efficient.

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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    That looks nice, wonder what kind of screen will gt72 gonna be, tn or ips
     
    geniusfb, Jun 1, 2015
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    Awesome. Does anyone know roughly how the Broadwell 5700, 5750, 5850, and 5950's map to Haswell's?
     
    Corregidor, Jun 1, 2015
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    According to some folks here, even the latest stock of Haswell GT72's are using IPS panels. I've never seen official confirmation of this though.
     
    Corregidor, Jun 1, 2015
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    All I want to know is the exact model number and manufacturer of that g-sync GT72 panel.
     
    SAiLO, Jun 1, 2015
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    Dat horizon... Too many months?
     
    riegz0r, Jun 1, 2015
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  11. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Not for me, but I've been known to be patient. :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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  12. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Should be physically here soon and I'll try to get you the model number.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Jun 1, 2015
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    :) Any guesstimate as to when Xotic will have them for sale?
     
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    Are these new CPUs quad-core or dual-core? I know the Broadwell i7 cpus that are already out are dual-core. Newegg has the release date on all the new MSI laptops as 6/7/15. As I was about to buy a certain Asus laptop tonight/tomorrow, I'm checking these new MSI laptops out just to see if I should consider them.
     
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    5700HQ is Quad Core.
     
    Corregidor, Jun 1, 2015
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    Who needs Broadwell 5th generation;Skylake 6th generation is where everyone should focused.

    Skylake is the successor to Broadwell, which itself was only created last year. Intel’s processor releases follow the company’s ‘tick-tock model’, where Broadwell is a ‘tick’ and Skylake is a ‘tock’ — in broad strokes, this means that it shares the same fabrication process while introducing a new micro-architecture.

    Computex 2015 taking will betaking place in Taipei over the course this week, it’s expected that we’ll see a lot of new hardware unveiled.
     
    WhatsThePoint, Jun 1, 2015
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  17. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Agreed.... didn't I allude to this in post #1? LOL! :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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    I don't know,did you?

    I didn't allude to it,I wrote it for all to see with no guess work. ;)
     
    WhatsThePoint, Jun 1, 2015
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    Ok WTP, you suck the fun right out of it, but take care..... or I'll start calling you 'MissingThePoint'. LOL!

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 1, 2015
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    I tend to agree, but G-Sync and USB 3.1 make this GT72 update pretty compelling. Thinking of just pivoting onto the "Tick" updates.
     
    Corregidor, Jun 1, 2015
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    i dunno about you, but ddr4 and possibly nvlink on pascal coming soon may be more worth to upgrade to for the wait.
     
    nightingale, Jun 1, 2015
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    That new GS70 Stealth Pro 607 or the 488 model. Which is better?
     
    ShadowVox, Jun 1, 2015
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    I was going to go for the Asus UX501, but that updated MSI GS60 607 is very tempting for the same price. Each has pros/cons, so now it's a tough choice.
     
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    I dont think dat asus can handle 4k with 960m
     
    riegz0r, Jun 2, 2015
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    I'd only do a tiny bit of gaming on a laptop as I do most of that on a PS4 now, but I think the Asus can do 1080 gaming decently. I would be doing quite a bit of audio editing/recording (I have a USB audio interface for that) and may get into some video editing in the future. After comparing specs, I think the MSI wins for me due to it having the i7 5700HQ, 965m, USB 3.1, an arguably better screen even at 1080, what appears to be a decent speaker/sub system, great audio options, more storage (even if it's not M.2 pci-e 4x), and most likely better battery life. I'd say that's a fair trade-off for losing 4k, touchscreen, and the M.2 pci-e 4x SSD. I haven't had anything MSI since an old AMD Athlon motherboard 10 years ago.
     
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    I dont know if ps4 can gaming lol
     
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    Some new photos from computex 2015 (photos taken from MSI Facebook page)

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    zizimonzter, Jun 2, 2015
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    As I'm about to pull the trigger on a GT72, do we have a release date on these yet? And also, does anyone know if the Skylake architecture will be compatible with the existing CPU socket?
     
    Andycinoz, Jun 2, 2015
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    As far as the GE series goes, so far I've only seen broadwell updates in the 960m and 970m versions of the GE62 and GE72. What happened to the 965m?
     
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    For the CPU i'm pretty sure you can't upgrade it, since it's a HQ(soldered)/BGA CPU. I don' t think intel gonna produce another MQ(socketed)/PGA CPU.
     
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    Ah, I didn't realize the HQ meant soldered... Good to know :)

    And yes, I think I'll go ahead with my current Dominator Pro 445. The new tech will probably not be cheap!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    The price difference probably not that big, but since it's 14nm it should produce less heat than 22nm (4th Gen) one and the new GT72 support Nvidia G-Sync.


    Aah Prestige series inside the body of GS series


    So according to MSI website the new 5th gen processor is around 7% faster than the 4th Gen

    [​IMG]
     
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    Supposed to be arriving this week.
     
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    I agree completely... those two reasons make the GT72 tempting. I'd get the cheapest one, put my own SSDs in it and then snag a Pascal GPU when they arrive.... very tempting
     
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    The MSI GT72 Dominator seems to have been refreshed with the new CPU (Broadwell) but a switch from 8gb to 4gb 980m is strange. Any specific reasons for this shift?
     
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    They offer both 4GB and 8GB versions.... price difference
     
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    You are absolutely right. Missed that.
     
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    Thanks, much appreciated!
     
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    The screen is LG DISPLAY/LP173WF4-SPF1 IPS panel.
     
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    Yes, just read about these upgrades with skylake coming (unless someone doesn't want to wait) I would think many would skip these.

    From what I read about a week or two ago Mobile Skylake processors are still scheduled for Sept-Nov correct? I haven't read enough to find out when these Broadwell notebooks will be available but if its a month or so would it be even worth getting these (if you can wait a couple months).
     
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    Sweet! Which MSI model is this?
     
    Corregidor, Jun 2, 2015
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    That's the ips panel from the last year's model. Is it g-sync capable?
     
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    All the new GT72 with G-Sync.
     
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    Are there any benchmarks posted for the newer gen CPU's comparing them with the 4th gen based on performance, heating etc? From this review the temps seem higher compared to the previous gen CPU's.


    Here are some numbers from a fellow members older MSI GS60.
    MSI GS60 with i7-4710HQ (Haswell), FHD, GTX 970M

    3dmark 11 total: 8,856 (<= lower due to single channel RAM, others get 9,100+)
    3dmark 11 graphics: 9,965
    3dmark 11 physics: 6,571 (<= lower due to single channel RAM, others get 8,000+)
    max CPU temp: 73-75 C
    max GPU temp: 70-71 C

    3dmark firestrike total: 6,626
    3dmark firestrike graphics: 7,628
    3dmark firestrike physics: 8,801 (<= lower due to single channel RAM, others get 9,200+)
    max CPU temp: 75-78 C
    max GPU temp: 76-79 C

    Any specific reasons why the 5th gen CPU's seem to be running hotter? Would like to see if they are better on the MSI GT72.
     
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  46. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Yeah, the jury is still out on CPU temps, and we need to see other elements, such as ambient temps. Also, I notice at 4 cores and 8 threads, the new processor is still pulling the same wattage, despite it's 14nm process. It will be interesting to see how these 5th Gen processors fair in the flagship notebooks, which provide more breathable/effective cooling solutions. I am not going to take much from this one video review, but I will say, my next flagship will be Skylake.

    :)
     
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    Exactly. I personally hence am waiting for a user or a re seller to post some review with the larger GT72 Dominator.
     
    Curs3, Jun 3, 2015
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  48. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I am sure we will se many other reviews soon. :)
     
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    Same wattage but absolute performance should be up.
     
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    GT80 Broadwell SKU out of the box FireStrike with i7-5700HQ:

    MSI-GT80-FireStrike-Broadwell.JPG
     
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