MSI new laptop with desktop cpu

Pics aren't coming thru - at least thru my connection/browser. Do you have the main link?

 

unnnn,sorry.BUT i dont know how to upload pics

 

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4112103440

 

I saw from a random vendor, maingear, that they announced a 15inch laptop with desktop CPU and laptop GPU. The look of the laptop looks strikingly similar to MSI's so maybe that's the one?

The back connector looks to be 330W PSU so this 15incher might be a great performer with Core i7 6700K and 980m.

 

Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the appeal of a desktop CPU with a notebook GPU? Lately, it seems the CPU hasn't been the bottleneck.

I'd think a desktop GPU with a notebook GPU would be a better proposition.

Of course, if you don't care about size, desktop GPU and CPU in a al

What am I missing?

 

Depending on what you do, you might be bottlenecked with CPUs. The main appeal of having a desktop CPU is the much higher performance ceiling and capability to change the CPU. Personally I would prefer a desktop CPU to ensure it actually runs at its rated speed and all. Even more so because CPUs for mobile devices are now exclusively soldered.

Plus desktop CPUs are cheaper than their mobile counterparts (which would be the extreme edition CPUs).

 

Problem is desktop CPUs have much higher TDP and are going to be much harder to cool in a confined space. How does the desktop CPU avoid throttling in that case?

So why not have a desktop for the heavy lifting then? As someone who used to be nearly exclusively desktop and light on the laptop, I've changed over since I found the desktop not convenient. However, I also don't see a big honking laptop as convenient either. Big, heavy, and hot ... why not have something more portable for the road (but still powerful), and RDP or something to a desktop if more power is needed?

I'm just thinking if I needed something really beefy, I'd get something light and "good enough" for the road, like maybe a GS60 and have a desktop for anything huge - especially given the cost of that kind of laptop vs a desktop.

Maybe this is where the line between desktop and laptop blur. I don't know. I just thought it would blur differently.

 

Hahaha everyone has different needs my friend What you describe is just part of the ideas behind someone that knows what they are looking for, and that is the reason why you can't see why this product has a market.

Of course it will be harder to cool if the TDP is higher, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work, or that it will auto throttle. There are notebooks from sager that already do work with desktop CPUs. High end mobile CPUs consume up to the same too, and they do work even if hot.

We already have GPUs over 100W, and now nvidia inserting a full desktop GPU into a laptop. Those things have way higher TDP than a desktop CPU like a core i7 6700K.

I'll take the cheaper, stronger CPU and tweak it to work rather than the locked down, barely tweakable soldered mobile CPUs. But that's just me

 

Negative, there are still plenty CPU bound games/applications out there.

One quick example that I use often is Prepar3d, a flight sim/real world training tool. It is very CPU bound, and will eat as much CPU as you can throw at it. For example, on my GS60 in signature, the CPU runs at 99% while the GPU is 30-50%. For this reason and others like it, my next laptop will have a desktop CPU to help the bottleneck best I can.

Desktop isn't an option, as I need a machine that is portable and moves around with me when I travel. By default I was planning to buy a Clevo P770DM with a desktop i7-6700k, but now will absolutely check out this MSI machine if it is real.

Different folks have different needs, there is no arbitrary line to be blurred

EDIT: After finally getting the pics to load, that thing looks huge ha, more in line with the much bigger Clevo's... the P750/770DM's are much slimmer and make more sense for my needs and still include a top of the line desktop CPU.

 

YES，that is msi's new barebone 16L1

 

INTEL's new cpu with BGA Technology does not allow us to change our CPU.SO i think the appearance of desktop cpu laptop is to solve this problem.

 

of course,that's a new monster computer just like clevo's p750dm.Some people really need “ Desktop Replacement ” laptop.

 

http://www.maingear.com/custom/notebooks/nomad15/index.php

 

The problem is that manufacturer already puts highend CPU inside so there is no point of "Desktop's CPU are cheaper" because you don't need to upgrade and they almost never break.

I wish they give option of i5 CPU with 200-300$ cheaper price. I would buy it. And when I need I upgrade. But that's not gonna happen I believe.

 

Right, I get the different folks have different needs thing. I'm trying to understand this need an expand my horizons a bit.

In my thinking I was seeing CPUs as less of a bottleneck these days, with more focus being put on GPUs. With CUDA and the like, a lot of more intense tasks could be offloaded to the GPU for better performance (such as video encoding, encryption, etc).

How much bigger are/will these full DTR types be and how heavy are they? I wonder how portable they are. At what point does a laptop become to big and heavy to not be really portable? This is a general question.

And what I meant about the "line" being blurred is as people have been saying the desktop is dying for years, yet there's always been reasons for keeping them around - whether it be cost, greater power, security (i.e. harder to rip off a desktop than a laptop, etc). Yet there wasn't ever a true replacement for it.

I appreciate both of your insights into this. It's been quite enlightening.

And as an aside - I'd much rather have an QM version of a proc than an HM for the replacability/upgrade options as well. It was great upgrading my 3630QM to a 3920XM. It's a shame that Intel dumped them with Broadwell. Other downside is you really only got one generation of upgrade if you bought on a tock cycle as Intel likes to change the socket every two generations.

 

Never heard of that flight sim until you mentioned it. I just looked up some videos on YouTube and looks pretty cool. Last time I used a flight sim was back in college when I was training and trying to learn sight view/technique on short fields. Today I don't have much need for a flight sim as I fly the real deal airliners with uber graphics lol. Still very cool looking sim.

 

OT, but who you fly for Talon?

 

I fly for American Eagle. We're a regional that is wholly owned by American Airlines. But today there are a ridiculous number of contract carriers that fly under the AE name, so instead of being the brand and company, we became essentially another carrier for the AE brand, with the exception of being owned by AA. I'm on the CRJ-700. My life consists of computers and airplanes lol. Can it get any more nerdy than that?

 

Heh, I'm a mileage whore and spend a lot of time on FlyerTalk.com. You should check it out if you haven't been over there. I fly AA and other OW carriers, so perhaps our paths will cross. If you ever end up with a layover at BWI, drop me a line. I live close to the airport.

I'm looking at doing a mileage run to top up my AA Platinum for next year. Now that's geeky! lol

 

It's my personal favorite after flying them all over the years, great sim. It's the spiritual successor to FSX, but greatly upgraded and tweaked and being actively developed by Lockheed Martin. Some of the addons by third parties are truly masterpieces. And it will suck up any possible CPU you give it ha.

It keeps me a bit more current when I can't get to the real thing when life gets in the way (I've got a Grumman AA5 in real life ).

My father flies for AA, and I've got a great friend that flies Dash 8's for Piedmont. Planes and PC's, we share the same nerdom haha

 

Such a small world Superguy. I will definitely drop you a line if I'm ever in BWI. Never looked at FlyerTalk.com before, looks like some interesting stuff though.

 

One my of friends flys for Piedmont and is a captain on the Dash.

Seriously owning your own plane and flying when and how you want is the best type of flying. I hope to own one someday. I miss the freedom of GA.

 

Sounds good.

FT's a great site. A lot of travelers, but also a lot of crew post on there as well. Crew insight is always particularly welcome. I've always been a travel geek, but it really unleashed my inner travel whore. I've learned so much there.

Admit it - you love TSA.

 

oh really，i‘m a fsxer too...

 

i was a fs pilot for many years.and planes are almost my favorites.so now my specialty is Aeronautical Engineering.

 

meh Clevo p750DM rebrand :/

 

My favorite addon is PMDG series.and it need a powerful cpu really.

 

Welcome to the boards! Yep, I love the PMDG stuff, fly their NGX and 777 quite a bit... and you are 100% correct, they need every bit of CPU power you can give them, especially with weather engines and addon sceneries running. P3D does use a lot more of the GPU, but still CPU bound.

 

i have never try of P3D.i have saw the video,it seens quit similar to FSX.Did p3d have much inprovement to fsx?and did it compatible with those addons developped for FSX？

 

well well, looks like MSI has gotten wise of clevo's new enthusiast supremacy and want themselves a piece of the pie as well...

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