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    MSI Wind vs EEE900 (& EEE701) - GPU aspect?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Hahutzy, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. Hahutzy

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    Which one has a better performing GPU? Anyone got some benchmarks and game performance results?

    Games like Warcraft 3 would do, I guess.
     
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    shoelace_510 8700M GT inside... ^-^;

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    For some reason it hyperlinked only part of it, so copy and past that whole line. :D
     
  4. admlam

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    Wind and EEE 901 use the GMA 950.

    EEE 900 and 701 only use the GMA 900. (See link above)
     
  5. wave

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    The GMA 950 in the Wind and Eee is underclocked to 133mhz. That makes the performance difference almost nothing. There was one review with 3dMark scores for the Wind. They where almost the same as for the Eee 900.
     
  6. Hahutzy

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    That's why I want gaming performance results, because the limitation (it's not a downclocking, meaning you can't overclock it back to stock) severely cripples the GPU on the Atom chipset and I guessed the benchmarks would be around the same as 900 & 701's.
     
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    Read for yourself:
    Eee pc 901 Review

    MSI Wind is faster than Eee pc 901.
     
  8. Hahutzy

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    How GPU-dependent is 3DM3? Because I know 3DM6 is quite CPU-dependent, which ruins the purpose for this question.
     
  9. Phil

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    If you are looking for a laptop to play games on you can get much better deals on 12" laptops.
     
  10. Hahutzy

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    I value portability first, then price, then performance.

    Among netbooks, though, there must still be one of them that performs better than the rest. And I am seeking for such machine.

    Wind is winning the CPU aspect, I'm just unsure about the GPU.
     
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    http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/asus-eee-pc-901.aspx?page=3

    Note that this score is with the Wind overclocked on 1.9Ghz. A feature which is unsure to be available on the first batch.

    The GPU is good enough for internet, text and that kind of work. It is not good enough for anything that is GPU dependent.
     
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    Can the wind process 100 page+ pdf file and make it smooth to read and how large of a resolutioin can it out put through vga smoothly?
     
  13. Galahad

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    They both have the exact same Intel GMA 950 GPU limited to 133 MHz. However, the Wind overclocks cpu to 1.9 GHz, the EEE 901 (and 1000) only overclock to 1.8 GHz, that is likely where the difference comes from. Without overclocking, the Wind comes in at 606 on 3DM03.
     
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    I think that honestly the overclock is a mere gimmick. In multiple reviews the reviewers have said that it makes NO visible difference (at least what they could tell and they are PROS!), so I wouldn't make the OC a selling point if I were you...
     
  15. ChocolateCake

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    Not true at all! See below:

    From http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/msi-wind.aspx?page=3

    The OC feature sounds very nice to me. At home, plugged in, I would certainly use it.

    As for this topic - I don't think any of these netbooks will be much different graphically speaking. They're all pretty similar. None of them will suffice for "serious" gaming, video editing/encoding or complex graphics design work. All of them will suffice for light gaming, basic graphics editing and your general office and internet apps.
     
  16. Phil

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    Be warned though that MSI Netherlands said that the first batch will NOT have the overclock feature.
     
  17. shoelace_510

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    Well I see what your saying ChocolateCake, that is probably only in CPU intensive tasks. I mean honestly, in a regular notebook you don't say: Oh my, there should be such a difference between a C2D 1.83 Ghz and a C2D 2.0 Ghz... so why with a single core Atom and 1.8 and 1.9???

    That simply doesn't make much sense to me...
     
  18. Galahad

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    There is almost no difference, the Eee 1000h clocked 739 on 3DM03, the Wind got 746, so even if you want to split hairs, the Wind is still better.

    Eee PC 1000h vs. MSI Wind
     
  19. Galahad

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    Can you provide a link to that? I would very much like to know if that is true before I buy one, and whether that refers to all of the first batch, or only ones in the Netherlands.

    Much obliged for you to cite your source on this.
     
  20. Hahutzy

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    I don't need to be reminded that netbooks are not used for serious gaming; I am only trying to find the netbook with the most performance, and if they are on par, then Wind wins from price anyways.
     
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    That feature is nice to have when you needed. If the 1st batch does not come with it, I won't buy it. I don't care if I will be really using it or not!
     
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    Agreed, the Turbo function is deal breaker for me. Looks like MSI screwed up this product launch just like every other hyped-up product launch ever. Makes you wonder why there are any early adopters at all...
     
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    Thats just how we talk over here I guess, must be a Canadian thing...

    Oh and btw, thanks for the link, I sure hope it doesn't apply to the US models, otherwise I will be very disappointed...
     
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    Is it physically missing the overclock button? The overclock should be done by software or maybe the bios. On the hardware side there should be no difference. Maybe a bios update can fix it?
     
  26. Hahutzy

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    The overclock button is Fn+F10, so no, it shouldn't be missing hardware.

    If anything, it should be BIOS, and maybe missing label on the F10 key.
     
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    Do you know anything about Germany / Austria and the Overclock feature?
     
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    OMG - ive been searching around trying to figure out why the power button (fn + F10) only does anything when not plugged in, ie. it only works to reduce CPU speed...

    That is completely gay that even though i read up adnauseum about the WIND i never read that the first batch would be sans this feature, its already bad enough ive paid an inflated price for a 3 cell pice of $#!@ battery... but man...

    oh wellz, i gotta say this sub-lappy is a really nice balance of portable vs usable... so far anyway...

    The CPU seems to slow down when not plugged in even when not in eco mode though... hard to tell but my CPU fully bottle necked when i was playing my GF in some skype game but skype is bloatware anyway and would prolly max out a cpu with no issues anyways...