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    MSI S12T Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by davidricardo86, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. davidricardo86

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    [​IMG]
    MSI S12T
    Now selling in the US and overseas etailers. Take caution where you purchase from.

    http://www.valleyseek.com/msi-micro-star-s12t-3m-006us-msi-nb-s12t-3m-006us-11-6inch-amd-a4-5000-4g-750g-w8-touch-silver-white-retail/store/show_item/369037/?source=prod_ads&gclid=CJi9ytmuyrsCFUtp7AodkiMAKg
    MSI S12T 3M-006US
    AMD A4-5000
    750GB SATA HDD

    http://www.x-kom.pl/p/164120-notebook-laptop-11-6-msi-s12t-3m-009pl-a4-5000m-4gb-128-win8.html
    MSI S12T 3M-009PL
    AMD A4-5000
    128GB SATA SSD
    Backlit Keyboard?!

    http://detail.zol.com.cn/ultrabook/index363726.shtml
    MSI S12T 3M-005CN
    AMD A4-5000

    http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/230172/NOTEBOOKS_11.3SCREEN/MSI/S12T_3M-003_AU.asp
    MSI S12T 3M-003AU
    AMD E1-2100

    http://m.heureka.cz/notebooky/msi-s12t-3m-010pl/
    MSI S12T 3M-010PL
    AMD E1-2100

    http://24h.pchome.com.tw/m/prod/DHAK28-A80775948.htm
    MSI S12T 3M-002TW
    AMD E1-2100

    http://www.stolica.ru/query/nb/msi.s12t3m016ru.htm
    MSI S12T 3M-016RU
    AMD E1-2100


    AMD A4-5000 Specifications (cpu-world)
    General Information
    Type: CPU / Microporessor
    Market Segment: Mobile
    Family: AMD A4 Series for notebooks
    Model number: A4-5000
    CPU part number: AM5000IBJ44HM
    Frequency: 1500 MHz
    Package: 769-ball lidless BGA
    Socket: BGA769 (FT3)
    Size: 0.96" x 0.96" / 2.45cm x 2.45cm
    Introduction date: May 23, 2013

    Architecture / Microarchitecture
    Microarchitecture: Jaguar
    Processor core: Kabini
    Core stepping: KB-A1
    CPUID: 700F01
    Manufacturing process: 0.028 micron
    Data width: 64 bit
    The number of cores: 4
    The number of threads: 4
    Floating Point Unit: Integrated
    Level 1 cache size:
    4 x 32 KB 2-way set associative instruction caches
    4 x 32 KB 8-way set associative data caches
    Level 2 cache size:
    2 MB 16-way associative shared cache
    Pipeline: 16-stage
    Multiprocessing: Uniprocessor
    Features:
    MMX instructions
    SSE / Streaming SIMD Extensions
    SSE2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    SSE3 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSSE3 / Supplemental Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSE4a
    SSE4 / SSE4.1 + SSE4.2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 4
    AES / Advanced Encryption Standard instructions
    AVX / Advanced Vector Extensions
    F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions
    BMI1 / Bit Manipulation instructions 1
    F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions
    AMD64 / AMD 64-bit technology
    VT / Virtualization technology
    Low power features:
    C1, CC6 and PC6 processor states
    S3, S4 and S5 sleep states

    Integrated peripherals / components
    Integrated graphics:
    GPU Type: Radeon HD 8330
    Shader cores: 128
    Base frequency (MHz): 500
    Memory Controller:
    The number of controllers: 1
    Memory channels: 1
    Supported memory: DDR3-1600, DDR3L-1600
    DIMMs per channel: up to 2
    Other peripherals:
    PCI Express 2.0 interface
    High Definition Audio
    SD controller
    USB 3.0 controller
    Serial ATA 3.0 controller
    LPC bus
    General Purpose I/O

    Electrical / Thermal parameters
    Maximum operating temperature: 90°C
    Thermal Design Power: 15 Watt

    AMD E1-2100 Specifications (cpu-world)
    General Information
    Type: CPU / Microporessor
    Market Segment: Mobile
    Family: AMD E1 Series for notebooks
    Model number: E1-2100
    CPU part number: EM2100ICJ23HM
    Frequency: 1000 MHz
    Package: 769-ball lidless BGA
    Socket: BGA769 (FT3)
    Size: 0.96" x 0.96" / 2.45cm x 2.45cm
    Introduction date: May 23, 2013

    Architecture / Microarchitecture
    Microarchitecture: Jaguar
    Processor core: Kabini
    Core stepping: KB-A1
    CPUID: 700F01
    Manufacturing process: 0.028 micron
    Data width: 64 bit
    The number of cores: 2
    The number of threads: 2
    Floating Point Unit: Integrated
    Level 1 cache size:
    2 x 32 KB 2-way set associative instruction caches
    2 x 32 KB 8-way set associative data caches
    Level 2 cache size:
    1 MB shared cache
    Pipeline: 16-stage
    Multiprocessing: Uniprocessor
    Features:
    MMX instructions
    SSE / Streaming SIMD Extensions
    SSE2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    SSE3 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSSE3 / Supplemental Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSE4a
    SSE4 / SSE4.1 + SSE4.2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 4
    AES / Advanced Encryption Standard instructions
    AVX / Advanced Vector Extensions
    F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions
    BMI1 / Bit Manipulation instructions 1
    F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions
    AMD64 / AMD 64-bit technology
    VT / Virtualization technology
    Low power features:
    C1, CC6 and PC6 processor states
    S3, S4 and S5 sleep states

    Integrated peripherals / components
    Integrated graphics:
    GPU Type: Radeon HD 8210
    Shader cores: 128
    Base frequency (MHz): 300
    Memory Controller:
    The number of controllers: 1
    Memory channels: 1
    Supported memory: DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333
    DIMMs per channel: up to 2
    Other peripherals:
    PCI Express 2.0 interface
    High Definition Audio
    SD controller
    USB 3.0 controller
    Serial ATA 3.0 controller
    LPC bus
    General Purpose I/O

    Electrical / Thermal parameters
    Maximum operating temperature: 90°C
    Thermal Design Power: 9 Watt

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    Nice.... you scored the first post for it, lol.
     
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    Will you be carrying it? If so, would it be possible to find out when it would become available? Just curious.
     
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    Unfortunately, we will not be carrying this product.

    Thank you for asking.
     
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    Aw shucks! Thanks again.
     
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    Looking forward to the US release as well. The A4-5000 is a must for me. I'd also greatly prefer the 500GB drive over the SSD as I already have a spare SSD and could use the extra HDD. Backlight keyboard sounds cool too.

    I guess there's no update on US availability then huh?
     
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    I will provide some details later once it becomes available, but here's general spec info for your reference.
    S12T Spec
     
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    Well I've been asking around and haven't heard anything from MSI as to availability in the US. I don't think we'll see it in store shelves by Christmas, unfortunately.
     
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    I contacted MSI directly through two different emails they provide on their USA website and never got a response. I don't think we'll be seeing the S12/S12T in the USA this year either.

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    It is shipping but seems like the target region varies.
    I will try to ask for some images to post on here later. :)
     
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    That's the reaction I got as well. Pretty crappy.

    I did notice that Lenovo has begun selling their x140e with an A4-5000. I think the S12T is the cooler option, though.
     
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    Thanks Kevin! Keep us posted.

    Yeah MSI is not saying anything. :cry:

    The Lenovo ThinkPad X140E with A4-5000 looks like a decent alternative but that $550 price tag puts me off. Lenovo is pretty good about releasing coupons and their Barnes and Noble Gold discount store usually discounts it even further. It's also heavier (probably more durable), comes with Windows 7 Professional and doesn't have touch or an mSATA port. However, ThinkPads are generally very good in terms of durability and quality and they have GREAT warranty support. It would be cool to see a head-to-head review of these two machines. I'll probably go with the MSI S12T as it has the features I really want plus its a little lighter.

    DESCRIPTION THINKPAD X140E NOTEBOOK
    Processor
    AMD Quad-Core™ A4-5000 (1.5 GHz, 15W)
    Operating System
    Windows 7 Professional 64
    Display
    11.6" HD LED Anti-Glare (1366 x 762)
    Graphics
    AMD Radeon™ HD 8330
    Memory
    4.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Webcam
    720p HD
    Storage
    500GB (7200 rpm)
    Dimensions (W X D X H)
    11.55" x 8.50" x 1.27"
    Weight
    3.92 lbs with 6-cell battery
    Input / Output (I / O) Ports
    HDMI 1.4
    2 x USB 3.0
    1 x USB 2.0 (powered)
    VGA, 4-in-1 card reader
    RJ45 (Gigabit Ethernet port)
    Optical Drive & Fingerprint Reader
    NO
    Audio
    Dolby® Advanced Audio™ v2
    Keyboard
    Island style ThinkPad® Precision Keyboard
    Battery
    6-Cell 63 Whr – 1-year Warranty
    Battery Life
    8.5 hours
    Ethernet
    Ethernet RJ45
    WIFI
    ThinkPad BGN BT Combo
    Navigation
    TrackPoint®
    Bluetooth®
    Version 4.0
     
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    I'm with you. Putting aside the the quality that comes with a ThinkPad I like the specs of the S12T better. I'm not expecting the S12T to be any cheaper, though.

    I do find it odd that Lenovo is only shipping the x140e with 7 when the pictures have it running 8. It wouldn't bother me too much, though (especially since I have a spare 8 upgrade license).
     
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    Just a thought but perhaps MSI is waiting for CES before they push US availability?
     
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    That's a likely possibility, didn't even consider that. The sooner the better.

    I hope the US model has the optional IPS display mentioned in the service manual and the backlit keyboard stated in the first retailer link in the OP (maybe a typo?!). Since I'm dreaming maybe we'll get the 6 cell battery too! Cmon MSI do it! ;)

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    Keyboard skins?

    Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
     
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    Looks like its finally starting to show up in US etailers. Doing a search for 'msi s12t' in google shopping search yields some relevant searches anyway. Here's one of the links: ValleySeek.com: MSI (Micro Star) S12T 3M-006US MSI NB S12T 3M-006US 11.6inch AMD A4-5000 4G 750G W8 Touch Silver White Retail

    Comes with an A4-5000 and a touch screen (probably IPS given what it says in the manual) for ~$500? Sold. :thumbsup:

    I'm gonna see if it shows up at newegg first. I don't have the money due to Christmas anyway.
     
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    Great find there! I've been checking for US retailers just about every day and haven't been able to find anything. That's very tempting but I'd like to buy it from Amazon and use my Prime 2-day shipping.

    I hope its an IPS display!

    Thanks for pointing these out. Wow!

    If it wasn't for these negative reviews I would buy it now. That's a shame.

    At least we now have a US part number and confirmation it will sell in the US. I'll add that to the OP and update the OP with relevant important information as it becomes available. I'm looking forward to the first hands-on reviews.


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    CES 2014 this week! Hope to see some decent coverage of the MSI S12 and MSI S12T. In the meantime, here's some high resolution pictures, including mass on a balance and a few other nice shots.
    ¡¾msi΢ÐÇS12T 3M-005CNͼƬ¡¿msi΢ÐÇ S12T 3M-005CN¸ßÇåͼ_Íâ¹Ûͼ_ϸ½Úͼ-ZOLÖйشåÔÚÏß

    The wait is killing me, makes me wonder if I should just hold off until Mullins and Beema. Then again, those likely won't appear until the end of 2014 in actual consumer products.
    [​IMG]

    Have you seen what AMD is working on with its Discovery Project?
    CE-4027, Sensor Fusion
     
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    I was about to say, you're probably looking at another year for Mullins/Beema based devices to come out. ;)
     
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    Thanks, I went ahead and submitted a suggestion too! Man, so far nothing from CES 2014... :(

    Using these two numbers I was able to locate some other etailers
    UPC # 824142016046 | Mfr. Part # 9S7-124K33-006


    Here it is in stock for $492.01 with free shipping, some of the description say BLK (black?) while then stating silver/white
    http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/Product/277272-116-750GB-4GB-Ultrabook-Blk#

    NeweggBusiness has 4 MSI S12T 3M-006US in stock for $496.99, too bad I don't have an account
    http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-34-152-500&tpk=3m-006us

    8 in stock and for $491.99, but UPS/USPS/FedEx Ground ($12.70) TOTAL: $504.69
    http://www.antarespro.com/8187760-item-MSI-COMPUTER-9S7-124K33-006-824142016046.aspx

    Some websites are calling it "MSI 9S7-124K33-006 11.6" ultrabook," in stock for $504.99
    http://www.jr.com/msi-systems/pe/MS0_9S7124K3A00/#productTabDetails

    This one says 6 in stock, $622.68 though
    http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.ihtml?step=5&prodstoreid=12025&pid=1830878
     
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    Nice find on the newegg business entry! It must mean that newegg is getting it relatively soon.

    I found an almost complete listing on excaliburPC.com: http://www.excaliberpc.com/629882/msi-s12t-3m-006us-11.6-touch.html

    They have product pictures (thought they look stock) and even list the specs (though it says on backorder). The one thing I liked a lot was that Excalibur pc made mention that the system will come with 4GB of 1600MHz DDR3 (which is the max the APU supports) so you won't necessarily have to upgrade that further. I figured they were going to cheap out and go DDR3 1333.

    It's a shame on the lack of CES coverage but as long as it's going to be in stock somewhere I'll be a happy camper.
     
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    And my suspicion was correct! Newegg.com - MSI S12T 3M-006US AMD A-Series A4-5000 (1.50GHz) 4GB Memory 750GB HDD 11.6" Touchscreen Notebook Windows 8

    I purchased it just a few moments ago. Going to replace the hard drive and the WiFi with the SSD and Intel 6330 (I think?) that I have in my current notebook. I hope they're both compatible. :)

    All the listings I've read have said the OS is Windows 8 (which doesn't matter too much since I'll be replacing it with a fresh install of Windows 8 Pro with media center) but it seems odd it just wouldn't come with 8.1.
     
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    ryun, you've worked too hard to channel this product over. :thumbsup:
     
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    Awesome man! Please post the display part number using Device Manager and HWiNFO64. I'm hoping this model comes with the IPS display. For $500 it would only seem fair. Also, take a picture of the insides with the access panel removed, I'm curious to see how everything is laid out in there.

    At this point in time its very weird that it didn't come with 8.1.

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    Adding the SSD and 6300 are good ideas.

    I'm using a 4 year old LG netbook with an SSD and Killer 1103 while my MSI GT780DX is at the service center getting the graphics card replaced and 2 bad memory modules covered by my 3 year extended warranty.

    How to best get the 3rd antenna installed in the S12T is the unknown.

    If you plan eventually upgrade your router to an AC model in the near future it may be well worth putting an Intel AC-7260 wireless card in it that needs only the 2 antennas.

    Killer 1103 in LG Atom Powered Netbook
    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3230345420
     
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    Got this puppy in the mail on Tuesday and only really had a small amount of time to play with it. To answer your question about the display panel type: definitely not IPS, unfortunately.

    I'll have some serious time to play with it this weekend, so I'll be able to take some pictures of the more interesting bits then.
     
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    Congratulations ryun!!
     
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    I'm saddened to hear about the display panel definitely not being IPS. However, 11.6" IPS displays like in my Acer Aspire V5-122P exist so that could always be an upgrade possibility for the future.

    Still I'm glad it got to you so quickly and can share your thoughts on it. I'm looking forward to your firsthand review.

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    I'd like to hear and see how you get the 3rd antenna installed.

    The screen size is a bit too small for my liking....old eyes.

    The Asus Transformer Book Duet TD300 shown at CES has my interest.It's a bit larger and dual boots both Windows 8.1 and Android.4.2.2
     
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    More bad news unfortunately:

    1. To open the back panel to upgrade anything (save for the battery) you must void the warranty. There is a screw blocked by a "warranty void if tampered sticker".
    2. The wireless card is no where to be found on the underside of the laptop (e.g. where the memory/hard drive are) and definitely not where the manual says.
     
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    Bit of good news: The underside panel is fairly easy to remove (compare to my last 11.6" notebook). You really only need to pry off the bottom after you remove all of the screws. and the only hidden one is the one under the warranty sticker. Also, found the wireless card. It's tucked away under the panel pretty much right behind the VGA port Going to replace the card with Intel one.

    Oh and WhatsThePoint, I wasn't planning on adding the third antenna. Too much work for very little gain in my case as my router can only do 300Mbps max.
     
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    The WiFi card should be underneath the touch button panel if it wasn't on the D side (bottom chassis).
     
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    Sorry for the delay. Been busy with work.

    Below is the underside of the laptop (unopened). Be sure to note the warranty void if tampered sticker. The red circle is where the screw to open the access panel is.
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    MSI is really tab friendly with this laptop which is nice because it reduces the screws. In fact, all of the screws are on the bottom and none of them are hidden (save for the one under the warranty sticker). The thing that sucks about this arrangement is all of the tabs are plastic. I was unlucky enough to already have one break off when I removed the whole bottom panel but luckily there aren't any negative aesthetic affects. I heavily suggest investing in a set of nylon plastic pry tools if you don't have any already.
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    Here's the inside under the access panel. Notice that the WiFi card is nowhere to be found from this position but the mSATA/mPCIE slot is easily accessible. There are two memory slots (which I was surprised to see).
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    Here's the whole underside panel taken off and you can finally see the WiFi/bluetooth card in the bottom left hand corner. Only two antennas, which isn't much of a surprise.
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    The Intel Centrino 6330 fit well and works great (even with 2 antennas). It also accepted the Patriot Pyro 60GB SSD I had and man is this thing flying.

    I would love to give you guys a more formal review but work is picking up and I doubt I'll have time. With that said, if you would like to see something specific just let me know and I'll get around to answering it when I can.
     
  40. davidricardo86

    davidricardo86 Notebook Deity

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    I've got two requests.

    1. Plug in your AC adapter and set the Windows Power Plan to High Performance. Open Task Manager, select the Performance tab and take a look at the CPU clock speed. What is the clock speed (the range)? Put the computer to Sleep. Then, wake it up and check the clock speed again. What is the clock speed (the range)?

    In my Acer Aspire V5-122-0600, doing this 'sleep-and-wake' while using the AC adapter in High Performance will cause the A6-1450 CPU clock speed to become locked at 1.4GHz (Turbo Core/Turbo Dock), instead of normally fluctuating from 1.0-1.4GHz. I realize the A4-5000 does not have Turbo Core/Turbo Dock and its highest clock speed is 1.5GHz but I'm curious what clock speed (fluctuating) range you normal see. Is it always running at 1.5GHz?


    2. Can you try overclocking the CPU/GPU?

    The Radeon HD 8250 GPU's core clock in my A6-1450 can be overclocked from its normally maximum 400MHz to 497MHz using MSI Afterburner (I used 300 Beta 18). The difference is noticeable in gameplay (I only play Minecraft for now) and in most GPU benchmarks. On average the difference results in a 10-15% increase in performance. Its really unfortunate the A6-1450 doesn't support anything but DDR3-1066, DDR3L-1066 and currently there's no way of overclocking this either.

    Your A4-5000's Radeon HD 8330's core clock operates at 500MHz and supports DDR3-1600, DDR3L-1600 RAM. Combined with the 1.5GHz clock speed of the CPU, it outpaces the A6-1450 even when both the CPU and GPU are overclocked (14.GHz/497MHz). I'm wondering if it can be overclocked?


    Off topic

    If anyone is thinking about getting the MSI S12T, you may want to consider this too:

    Lenovo IdeaPad S215 59410732 (A4-5000)


    Notebookcheck Lenovo IdeaPad S215 Review


    Processor:AMD A4-Series A4-5000 Processor (1.50GHz 1600MHz 2MB)
    Operating system:Windows 8.1
    Graphics:AMD Radeon HD 8330 MHz
    Memory:4.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Display:11.6" HD AntiGlare with integrated camera 1366x768
    Hard Drive:500GB 5400 RPM+8GB SSHD
    Battery:3 Cell 36 Watt Hour Li-Cylindrical
    Network Card:Lenovo BGN Wireless
    Bluetooth:Bluetooth Version 4.0
    Warranty:One year
    Form Factor:Notebook
    Productivity Software Preload:Office Home & Student 2013
    Pointing device:Industry Standard Multi-touch 2 button touchpad

    Pros: AMD A4-5000 Radeon HD 8330, dual-antenna WLAN card, 6hr 36 Whr battery, DDR3L 1600 MHz RAM, SSHD, Office Home & Student 2013, anti-glare display, 2.86 lbs., Windows 8.1 preinstalled, physical mouse buttons

    Cons: HDMI-only video output, non-touch non-IPS TN display, 8GB DDR3 maximum single sodimm slot, no mSATA slot

    https://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/barnesnoblegold/StdAffinityPortal/en_US/Lenovo:EnterStdAffinity?affinity=barnesnoblegold
    $389.00 + tax + free shpping
    Use eCoupon: S215DEAL

    /Off topic
     
  41. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    The only one year MSI warranty is not a good thing.

    I just got my out of warranty MSI notebook back from MSI service with a new "Waarrany Void If Removed"sticker on the bottom covering one screw.

    This new sticker is different than previous stickers I've had on my MSI notebooks in that it's designed to come apart if you try to peel it off.

    Previous stickers were easily peeled off using thin blade under 1 corner.

    Consumers in the US have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act to protect them from companies denying a warranty claim when a consumer added their own hardware or or other action that didn't cause damage to the part being claimed under the warranty.

    Breaking the sticker on a US MSI notebook under the Magnuson-Moss Act does not void your warranty.

    If by chance you did damage something the warranty would only be voided on the part damaged and not the entire unit.

    http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warranties/undermag.htm
     
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    ryun Notebook Enthusiast

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    1. Unplugged it fluctuates between 0.96 and 1.47GHz using the task manager. Plugged in it stays locked at 1.47GHz on the task manager so I didn't bother to do the wake sleep method. What's weird is that CPU-Z shows 1500MHz whereas task manager shows 1.47GHz. I wonder what that is about.

    2. I'm going to pass on overclocking for now. Perhaps another user (and maybe that'll be me someday) will be more adventurous in the future, sorry.
     
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    Thank you for taking time out of your life to answer my questions. No worries, much appreciated and I completely understand your concern with overclocking. I hope to read more about your experiences with the MSI S12T in the future.

    Cheers
     
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    ryun Notebook Enthusiast

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    If anyone was interested in buying another battery for the S12T just do a search for the following: BTY-S11 (3-cell) , BTY-S12 (6-cell) or BTY-S13 (9-cell).

    I purchased this one here: http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-3715a-ms6837d1-14l-ms6837d1-6317a-rtl8187se-Tx2-rtl8187se/dp/B00IMYMKO0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396191452&sr=8-1&keywords=BTY-S12+5200

    It brought my runtime up from 4-5 hours to 8-10 (depending on what I'm doing really, if it's pure gaming the 3 cell probably only provides 3 hours; 6 hours with the 6 cell). The battery linked doesn't perfectly match the underside finish, but it fits snuggly and securley and hasn't blown up on me -- which is always nice. :D
     
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    aced84 Newbie

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    Hey Ryun, I'm also getting the S12T Woohoo!! High 5 ;)

    I am going to add a 32GB mSATA SSD to it as well, and I planned to use it together with the 500GB hdd came with the notebook, is it possible to do so?

    Did u discard the original hdd came with the notebook, and just upgraded it with a mSATA? Or did you also combine the mSATA together with the hdd and made it a SSHD?
     
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    aced84 Newbie

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    I am still wondering if there's method that I could actually combine the SSD and the HDD together, like what my other laptop (which is using Intel processor) does - using Intel SRT method to combine both the SSD and HDD together.

    Anyone has any idea on how to deal with this?

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  48. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    It's called Intel Smart Response, which requires supported chipset to achieve.
    You will need a HDD as your primary drive, and SSD as secondary.
    Set SATA mode to RAID, but with no arrays created.
    Load OS and load RAID driver via USB flash drive, then install Intel RST software.

    Please refer to the guide here.
     
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    aced84 Newbie

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    Hey Kevin, thanks for that.

    I know the Intel Smart Response Technology will work well on my laptop if I'm having an intel processor.

    The thing is, I'm trying to figure out if there's any software/drivers out there which will work well for a laptop that has an AMD processor.

    I'm going to get this: MSI Global S12T

    Not sure if I can do it like how the Intel SRT does, to RAID the SSD + normal HDD together?

    Again, thanks in advance for your help, guys.
     
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    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    AMD doesn't have such technology, and if you have a 250GB SSD then you won't really need such technology.
    S12T has 1 x 2.5" SATA bay + 1x mSATA bay.
     
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