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    MSI GX640 Memory Type

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by min2209, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Nathaniel

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    It is solid, looks nice, portable so I can take it away on business and work on my spreadsheets....what, no num pad? EEWWWW
     
    Nathaniel, Feb 22, 2010
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  2. one33_bpm

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    There are a number of problems with the Envy.

    1. Lack of switchable graphics between integrated & discrete. I mean, why did they even bother putting an Arrandale CPU in there? Oh, i know, point #2.

    2. Dismal battery life. So bad in fact that they had to create an addon battery slice and drop in a more power efficient CPU which your not even gonna use most of.

    3. Another graphics woe. A crippled 5830 that uses DDR3 instead of GDDR

    4. Horrible touchpad interface.

    MSI GX640 FTW!
     
    one33_bpm, Feb 22, 2010
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  3. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    1. That is my major flaw with it, but isn't THAT big of deal unless your looking for battery life. And if the GX640 don't have it, it will have worse battery life than the Envy, I guarantee that.

    2. how is 3 hours on a 6-cell abysmal? It's not great, but it ain't abysmal. Do you even know anything about the envy?

    3. Wrong, uses GDDR3 *facepalm*

    4. Not really install new synaptics drivers and tweak sensitivity and your good to go.

    Do not criticize unless you have read up.

    On a lighter note, I'm praying for switchable graphics on this MSI, if it does, it could earn some serious battery life with it's large capacity battery. At least be able to be activated in bios, please.
     
    L3vi, Feb 22, 2010
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  4. chippu

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    The GX640 is listed on several Dutch sites as well now, they all list the 5850 as having DDR3 though. The average price ranges from 1100 to 1250 Euro's.
     
    chippu, Feb 24, 2010
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  5. barnabe619

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    So It's useless to buy it in Europe...
     
    barnabe619, Feb 24, 2010
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  6. catacylsm

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    Not really, its still just listed...
     
    catacylsm, Feb 24, 2010
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  7. kvnrthr

    kvnrthr Notebook Geek

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    You sure the review is Thai? The price stated is 38900, so i converted the currency. its 1,175 USD!!!that cheap? really? :confused: :confused:
     
    kvnrthr, Mar 1, 2010
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  8. catacylsm

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    Yep, MSI machines were notoriously well priced!

    But if you were going to get that from thai, dont forget the import tax ;).
     
    catacylsm, Mar 1, 2010
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  9. atticus182

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    atticus182, Mar 2, 2010
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  10. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Achievement unlocked, GDDR5
     
    L3vi, Mar 2, 2010
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  11. catacylsm

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    Sure as hell hope so!

    Runs hot though, should be ok :).
     
    catacylsm, Mar 2, 2010
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  12. min2209

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    How is MSI's build quality though? Especially in their 15.6" gaming series? I keep hearing things like hinges cracking and paint rubbing off with minimal use, is that true?
     
    min2209, Mar 2, 2010
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    That'll be if its GDDR5, I'm now considering this along with the 17" gx740 depending on when they are available/performance differences.
    hopefully this one is thinner if I decide I want an even lighter notebook though.


    Great news if it really is GDDR5
     
    maverickbunit, Mar 2, 2010
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  14. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    The specs that we received said the GX640 was to be GDDR3, MSI has the GX640 & GX740 up on the global site tonight. The MSI site now says the GX640 is to be GDDR5.
    GX640:


    http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1998

    GX740:

    http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1999
     
    [email protected], Mar 2, 2010
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  15. TimeConsumer

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    TimeConsumer, Mar 3, 2010
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  16. catacylsm

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    It most likely will be, again the review model was definately GDDR5, nothing more or nothing less but ran hot for normal tests, which is where my doubt came from them downgrading it. :S
     
    catacylsm, Mar 3, 2010
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  17. barnabe619

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    So all models in sale are gddr5 or is there limited versions ?
     
    barnabe619, Mar 3, 2010
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  18. kvnrthr

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    no import tax for me! :) im in indonesia. There's a free trade area thing between my country and thai. Though im still not sure. But it should cost less than shipping to the us and uk plus the tax there
    But it this gddr3/gddr5 problem is confusing. MSI is making it really difficult. What's wrong with msi marketing??? I don't know who to believe.
     
    kvnrthr, Mar 3, 2010
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  19. min2209

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    Hmm.. looks as though the screen is non LED backlit?
     
    min2209, Mar 3, 2010
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  20. anexanhume

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    Yes, this has been standard for the GX notebooks. The new GT660 has an LED backlit screen, however.
     
    anexanhume, Mar 3, 2010
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  21. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    This laptop looks like it's going to run fairly hot =/
     
    L3vi, Mar 4, 2010
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  22. catacylsm

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    it will lmao but ati transistor tech is actually very durable along with all the other components
     
    catacylsm, Mar 4, 2010
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  23. battousai10k

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    battousai10k, Mar 4, 2010
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    Phinagle, Mar 4, 2010
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    point taken, lets hope its GDDR5 then. How is it that no when has this laptop yet?
     
    battousai10k, Mar 4, 2010
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  26. Phinagle

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    MSI hasn't started shipping them yet. Supposedly they won't be out in the U.S. until May now.
     
    Phinagle, Mar 4, 2010
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    Could I please see links to when/where they announced this?
     
    kingtz, Mar 5, 2010
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  28. barnabe619

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    MAY!?!??! NOOOO I CAN'T WAIT SO MAY TIME !!
     
    barnabe619, Mar 5, 2010
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  29. kvnrthr

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    Quick questions, will this be able to handle work on the Unreal Development Kit quite well? Will it beat the gtx280? Thanks
     
    kvnrthr, Mar 5, 2010
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    Phinagle, Mar 5, 2010
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    edgaralanpwn, Mar 6, 2010
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    Interesting, nice find there edg, cinema pro tech and some strange new words there, i can't help but feel they are exagerating features that the 725/729 already has,

    Unless they've gone and re fitted new speakers, plus enhanced equalisers for movies itself, although curious about "Improves resolution" again, i'd think maybe some presets linked to ATI catalyst, but one can hope.

    I know that when i use my speakers (The GT725's) they are very good after some nice tuning and equalisation, and they only start to distort (Or rattle the keys, haven't decided it yet, the subwoofer does actually provide decent bass for its size.) it is by default a nice sound system.
     
    catacylsm, Mar 6, 2010
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    kingtz, Mar 7, 2010
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  34. trebuin

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    I read earlier, 200F, about 93C, that's hot. We should be able to keep it down under 80C if we handle it right. My M1330 used to have 105C on the card and that melted within 6 months. Put in the copper mod and now it's down to 65C max.
     
    trebuin, Mar 7, 2010
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  35. sparkguy

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    Msi should at least consider better cooling, led backlit screen and Usb 3.0 if they are going to delay.
     
    sparkguy, Mar 7, 2010
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  36. catacylsm

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    Whats the speed of USB 3.0?

    Is it as fast as HDD's these days?
    LED backlit i disagree about, its just costing up, even this day and age,

    For all we know they are revamping the cooling, but heck, the asus g50 and g51 ran that hot just fine (With nvidia chips i might add,)

    Why not MSI :p haha.
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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    Dead2th3world, Mar 7, 2010
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    Hmm, looks as if USB 3.0 is a fair bit faster then HDD's actual speed, i don't really see much of a need in that case :D.

    I would like 10k rpm 2.5mm drives though... please :D
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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  39. Dead2th3world

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    We don't need a new lappie for USB 3.0 anyway as ExpressCard 2.0 should be out soon allowing us to use it on our "old" machine ;)

    Hopefully someone will hear you ! :D I want a raptor
     
    Dead2th3world, Mar 7, 2010
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  40. catacylsm

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    Did you see the review of that big 3 hdd clevo/sager?

    It was raided and had speeds of up to 500mb on the read/write tests!

    Crazy!!
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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  41. Dead2th3world

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    All 3 ? :confused: Linky man ! :D
     
    Dead2th3world, Mar 7, 2010
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  42. catacylsm

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    Don't say anything

    just stare.....
    [​IMG]
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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    I need to talk ! I want RAID ! Raid would have been awesome in the 725 ... oh well ......
     
    Dead2th3world, Mar 7, 2010
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    I still wan't someone to confirm swapping out the ODD to HDD works :D.
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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  45. Dead2th3world

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    We also need to confirm if a BIOS mod can be done to add RAID0 option to it. ;) svet comes to mind :D
     
    Dead2th3world, Mar 7, 2010
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    They have eSATA ExpressCards with built in RAID controllers for external storage so I'd bet a USB 3.0 card could also have one. There's also a mini pci-e RAID card but that would require some modding to wire the HDDs.


    Or you can hope they put an ATI card in the GT660 chassis.....although I'm thinking most of the current MSI rigs will eventually use the new GE600/700 chassis as their successor, and that's only packing a single HDD.
     
    Phinagle, Mar 7, 2010
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  47. catacylsm

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    Or we wait for ATI's GT770 to blow the little thing out the water, Dual HDD, 5890, I7-9**,

    Then GT880, 18.4 inch 7.1 surround, Dual HDD, Dual GPU, tripple bank, LED Backlit, sleek aluminium chasis, GOD MODE?
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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  48. barnabe619

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    I don't care about 18 inch xD
    I just want my gx640 :(
     
    barnabe619, Mar 7, 2010
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    Haha, the wait is on barn, but it'l be worth it man!
     
    catacylsm, Mar 7, 2010
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    So let's say that the GPU uses GDDR3 instead of 5, how much of a performance hit do you all think it will be? I'm not talking benchmark numbers, I'm talking real world settings. Would this take games from High settings to medium settings (which would be a big compromise) or will it just shave off a few unnoticeable FPS?

    I'm trying to decide between the 740 and the 640, and while I'd MUCH rather have the 15in screen I can do 17 if it means a considerably better system.
     
    brentbizzle, Mar 8, 2010
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