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    MSI GT76 Titan announced!(NBC)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Mr.K-1994, May 22, 2019.

  1. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Can't be BGA on the GPU. Maybe the heatsink is covering up the mxm slot.
     
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    This might actually be an NVidia thing. I got the impression that with the whole MSI upgrade thing that they got a little blindsided by a change in NVidia
     
  4. Ghost 350

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    But where are you gonna upgrade that 9900k to? The next gen Ice Lake 10nm won't be compatible.
     
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    9900K => 9900KF => 9900KS => 9900KITTEN -> in 2020. ;)
     
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    Lol Kitten. But seriously I doubt anyone would get a 9900k -> KF since the KF is the same thing without a integrated graphics. The KS isn't really worth it if you have a 9900k. It's like going from a 8700k to a 8086k.
     
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    Yet, Intel is wrapping them up in pretty boxes and selling them to happy recipients, one would assume, given all the hoopla Intel makes about the KF / KS sku's.
     
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  8. Xatanú

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    You could buy the lowest specs CPU from the vendor and replace it with the highest specs silicon lottery binned CPU for example.
     
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  9. Ghost 350

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    But I haven't seen anyone sell these things with a base i3 9300 where you can upgrade to any processor you want. They all either come with a 9700k or a 9900k from retail and resellers.
     
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    I don't know MSI, but other vendors offer lower configurations (Clevo and AW for example) and then you can upgrade. Or you could even go for highest specs and replace the CPU with a good binned one for the better temperatures and OC.
     
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    I bet the production models have foil on the bottom cover that blocks most of that mesh just like the P870's do.
     
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    Wow.
    I want this laptop.
    Alienware 51m is defective and horrible.
    Then I can run around messing with the cancer EC again.
    Too bad I'll never be able to afford it :(

    I would love to review a test sample however.
    It would be my first ever laptop review. And no I would not put liquid metal between IHS and heatsink
    (i have a 9900K already).

    Wonder what will have better VRM power limits (pull too many amps and the VRM's shut off)
    Prema removed the amps limit on the Clevo P870 TM-R
    Svet thinks the amps limit may be stored in the EC because it's not in the APTIO bios capsule, unless it's hardwired in the bios and not accessible, ever.
    (no option for changing "CPU Vcore Current Protection")

    That means, attempting to run prime95 28.8 build 3, AVX 15K small FFT at 5 ghz will shut off the laptop, if MSI respects the 193 amp limit for 8 core processors.
    (4.7 ghz @ 1.20v, FMA3 15k small FFT should be below 193 amps).

    GT73VR was limited to something between 70 to 75 amps.
     
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    Where are you at @Ultra Male? I think you need to switch laptops again. ;)
     
  15. Xatanú

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    Let's see how this evolves. The new GT76 machine seems very promising in terms of cooling. Also the desktop components make it really amazing, plus the keyboard seems to be from SteelSeries which is a hit and also the Dynaudio sound equipment is top notch. But if the GPU is soldered it will be a miss, taking into account that the new RTX 30xx are almost around the corner.
    Also the esthetic of the GT76 is not my cup of tea.
     
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    You got a source on RTX3xxx? I'm curious as to any official news.

    It definitely seems like an odd time to buy a socketed-CPU laptop considering the upgrade path atm is nil, nevermind a soldered on GPU when we're "in between" pretty significantly.
     
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    All hope is lost, why tf did they solder that GPU when the cpu is socktable, alienware did a better job regarding the GPU upgradability and that's what will be upgraded in the future forget the cpu its already powerful enough.

    In all honesty I just want the gt83 series back as they are the best laptops msi has made. A GT83 with a 9900k and rtx 2080 sli in the same chassis with a 4k 60hz or 2k 120hz screen would be amazing, that's a machine that would win awards.

    The only laptops looking future proof now are the Clevo P870TM-R and P775 series which is sad.
     
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  18. Xatanú

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    Nothing official, just guessing. But it shouldn't be too long until nvidia releases a new generation considering how AMD is pushing from behind. Maybe in the short term they will just release a refreshment for the 20xx family with just more refined silicon and faster memory.
    I agree that the upgrade path on the CPU side is nil for the Intel architecture considering they change the socket al least every two gens. That's something where AMD excels, socket compatibility.

    Anyway, apart from the GPU limitation, the GT76 seems like a great machine, a very reliable tank, and should provide a great gaming experience al least for the next 2-3 years.
     
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  19. Semmy

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    My subjective opinion. Of course, the soldered GPU is a very bad solution in terms of repair - availability. And of course the motherboard and the laptop itself will be more heated than if the GPU were separate.
    But the main advantage and what is most important for me is the cooling and the number of radiators, which gives more opportunities for the processor and video card to work at full capacity. What did not Area-51. He has a large plastic bumper in the back, but it is empty. Area 51 radiators are small. Then why does he need such a big bumper ?
    The GT 76 uses the space of the laptop as efficiently as possible, it surpasses Area-51 in the area of heat dissipation and cooling in general.
    For me, the RTX 2070 would be more than enough, as the 8700K.
     
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    I'm honestly done chasing the MXM dream. It ends in tears 99% of the time. Dell won't even guarantee the 51M's custom slot going forward.

    My next laptop will have an RTX 3000 and after that I'm going eGPU.
     
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    This keyboard will not be anywhere near as good as the one on the GT75.
     
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    That's true, the Steel Series on the GT75 seems to be unbeatable
     
  23. DaMafiaGamer

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    Doesn't the GT83 have the best keyboard though since it's a full fledged desktop one :D
     
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    Probably you are right. I really don't know about the GT83 as I haven't read/watched any review about that machine.
     
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  25. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Yup, GT83VR has the best mechanical keyboard.
     
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    I'm glad I was able to own one. Another one is on the way from america atm (the one with the 8850h). Ordered from some outlet via ebay.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Has anyone seen any mention that the two display options, the 1080p 144hz and the 4K 60hz are g-sync?

    I've went through all the literature online and nowhere can I find any mention of g-sync. I'm thinking it'd be pretty disappointing if it didn't have it.
     
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    I just posted this in another thread too and saw this discussion. Forgive me if this bothers anyone:


    I've a Gsync monitor on my Area 51m and I keep it OFF all the time. I play a lot of competitive games like CSGO and Quake Champions and it runs above 200fps+ at all times anyways. Although I don't get such frame rates in Metro Exodus, Far Cry 5 and Modded Skyrim, but I haven't noticed any tearing anywhere and I'm running at 144Hz all the time. I've never ever turned on gsync since I bought the damn thing and this is the first gsync capable machine I've ever used.

    I don't understand this fuss about Gync, I was under the impression that it creates input lags in games...isn't it so?
    Can you convince me to use Gsync?

    Sent from a Galaxy S9+

    Sent from a Galaxy S9+
     
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  30. Kevin

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    MSI GT7x always have G-Sync whether it is mentioned or not, usually not.
     
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    9900KS - keep spending.
     
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    A a couple of short reviews on the Computex Show floor:

    MSI GT76 Titan Hands-On: When bigger is better

    Engadget
    Published on May 28, 2019
    MSI GT76 Titan is certainly a hefty laptop, but it's putting that bulk to good use. With a full, replaceable, desktop processor, along with expandable RAM and storage, and GT76 is designed for people who want the most power in a portable package.


    MSI’s 5GHz 9900K Gaming Laptop? Meet The GT76 Titan!
    Jarrod'sTech
    Published on May 28, 2019
    MSI have launched their new GT76 Titan gaming laptop, and it’s an absolute beast. The cooling and specs are insane and it’s offering some serious performance, with an i9-9900K CPU clocked at 5GHz on all 8 cores with up to Nvidia RTX 2080 graphics. Check out the rest of my Computex 2019 coverage: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
     
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    Yeah the GT83 has the best one since its a full on mechanical keyboard. Too bad display manufacturers don't develop 18 inch displays like they do 17 inch ones. If the GT83 offered a 1080p 144hz-240hz display, 1440p 120hz-240hz, 4k OLED, then it would make sense to get one. Otherwise you don't need SLI for just 1080p/60. Heck, if they offered it without SLI it would be even better.

    But if we are talking about standard laptop keyboards, the GT75 owns every other manufacturer in that arena.
     
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    G sync does add some input lag but not as much as v-sync. Point of it is to play games without v sync and get that smooth gameplay without screen tearing and minimal input lag.
     
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    tomshardware gave the MSI GT76 a best gaming laptop in Computex 2019 award. :)

    Best Gaming Laptop: MSI GT76 Titan
    https://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/873-best-of-computex-2019.html#s2

    "MSI's GT76 Titan gaming laptop is a behemoth but for good reason: it's packing a whole lot of compute power. What makes this machine so impressive is its Intel Core i9-9900K CPU that MSI says will be able to overclock to a 5-GHz clock speed on all eight cores for a sustained period. And check out the chassis. Goodbye Predictable Red and Black MSI; hello Mature Metal Gray MSI. -- Scharon Harding

    Read more: MSI's GT76 Titan Laptop Runs a Desktop Core i9 Overclocked to 5 GHz "

    AMD and AMD related technology got several awards too - maybe MSI will catch that detail and start making some Ryzen 3 gaming laptops!...check out the link and scroll through all the award winners, some fun stuff is listed. :)
     
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    Based on Hardware Canucks visit to MSI HQ, they state in their video below that the GT76 does not have g-sync (5:38 in the clip).

     
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    I'm not sure that will prove to be true though. Neither of the GT73VR/GT75 were ever advertised with G-Sync yet both had it upon release.

    It's a, inexplicable thing that I expect to happen in this case as well.
     
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    XMP support or support for 2666+ at least?
     
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    If it's their answer to the Area 51M and P775TM I would hope so. But no official word on that.
     
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    Are the radiators looking like they're aluminium?
     
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    Not only looking like, they are.
    [​IMG]
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    I am suprised MSI didn't announce yet a precise date for the laptop to be released...i returned my burned Alienware area51m, still waiting for the refund, then this came...i am thinking to stick with MSI now as i was so disappointed by alienware...design wise the 51m it's way ahead, but technically MSI it's way far ahead.
     
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    I was at least giving the benefit of the doubt hoping they were nickel plated copper... Silly to have all those heatpipes and then use an inferior material for the radiators to save a few bucks and grams
     
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    I have been waiting for something to replace my GT73 with, the bulky power connector coming out the side is a disappointment, I use an Orbweaver on the left so it can get tight there. I also imaging there will be two power bricks to carry around which is a bit of an issue for me.

    I do like the horsepower though.
     
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    Honestly, I'm quite interested in this as an upgrade path. But I have to wonder, with Ryzen being on par with intel now might we be seeing refreshes with those equipped.

    Now that I think about it....I wonder if that 780w power supply is going to get an adapter for it.
     
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    I'm pretty interested in the GT76, the cooling looks impressive and they seem to be committing to a 5Ghz overclock. It will interesting to see if they archive it in practice.

    However I hear it has no G-sync option and having too power bricks is real put off for me.
     
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    Yes, since they have changed the power connector from the 4 pin barrel there is no option of a single PSU brick with the Eurocom 780W

    And you are forced to carry two bricks around which is a new thing, since the connectors are all the same I can carry one 330W with my P870 when travelling and if necessary run the GPUs at a lower 100W limit when under SLI load to ensure it stays below the limit of a single brick.
     
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    Yea that kinda sucks imo, and is enough to kinda spook me away from it.

    And those clevos can run in just the one power brick eh? I'll have to look into that more in the forum's.

    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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    If the draw exceeds what the brick can safely deliver, it'll just trip OCP and shut off. Since there's no ID pin like Dell in the wiring, the laptop has no idea what capacity is connected, all it can tell is whether there's ~20V coming in or not.
     
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    Ah interesting. I assume you can force/make a power profile that you can trigger while mobile to stop that from happening?

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