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    MSI GT75 is now available for purchase in most reseller sites

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Beemo, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. Beemo

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    Check the links for more details:

    HIDevolution: http://www.hidevolution.com/catalogsearch/result/?a=all&q=gt75

    XoticPC: http://www.xoticpc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=gt75

    GentechPC: https://www.gentechpc.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=gt75&Submit=

    Edit 10/24/17:

    "I have confirmed, GT75VR LCD screen is not HDR. GT75VR is only able to OUTPUT HDR to another HDR-Ready device." a response from one of the MSI rep.

    MSI is offering the GT75VR in their trade in program but with a conditions:

    - 1 year warranty only
    - No longer qualified for the 2nd gen. GPU upgrade
     
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    In Spain is not available yet.
     
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    Spain? What's that? Some kind of Mexican food? For most manufacturers and sellers the world ends at the US border ;)

    Also, $3,299.00 for the GTX 1070 model? Hell no! Guess those German sites were not that off with the increased price compared to the GT73VR 7RF.

    I'm happy without a mechanical keyboard and the screen is 3 ms instead of 5 ms. Can you even see a difference ? Does -2ms worth +500 USD ? Anyway, why do they even sell it with 64 GB RAM? It just adds a huge extra $$. 32 GB is perfectly enough for years.
     
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    It's ok to post links when you find something to save us time searching for things, we do know how to search, it's just sometimes easier to post the exact link that you are looking at, for discussion sake.

    There are 2 GT75VR's listed right now on Gentechpc, both stuffed with memory 64GB and NVME storage 512GB/1TB, the 1080 model is saddled with a 4k screen @ $4299 and the 1070 120hz 1080p screen @ $3299, both way overpriced.

    Those are the first adopter systems stuffed with top configuration parts and addon's to bring the price up.

    Hopefully new barebones models will follow.

    https://www.gentechpc.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=MSI+GT75VR&Submit=

    MSI GT75VR TITAN PRO 4K-082 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK - $4299
    https://www.gentechpc.com/MSI-GT75V...ia-GTX-1080-p/msi-gt75vr-titan-pro-4k-082.htm

    MSI GT75VR TITAN-083 nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK - $3299
    https://www.gentechpc.com/MSI-GT75VR-TITAN-083-nVidia-GTX-1070-p/msi-gt75vr-titan-083.htm
     
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    You're right, it's not of a big upgrade for having 3ms, HDR, a mechanical keyboard and a huge ass generic RAM, not worth it all.

    I don't want to sound like I'm adversiting by posting the links but noted.

    I was hyped but seeing the specs at this price is...meh, it looks everything has been rushed, MSI is a mess.

    I'll pass giving you my dough, so see you next year MSI.
     
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    I suppose there will cheaper versions that don't have the RAID and 64Mb of RAM, These are too expensive for me to upgrade from my GT73.

    Why doesn't m,y post count go above 1000? It's been a 999 for a few days.
     
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    LOL

    Why bother upgrading? The GT73 was a huge step than the previous generation while the GT75 is a blinged-out version.
     
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    64 Gb RAM is pointless, unless you like burning money or need it for professional work. 16 Gb is enough for gaming and 32 GB is well future proof.
    Mechanical keyboard is nice yes, but does it worth +500 USD ? No.
    3 ms vs 5ms can you see a difference ? Maybe, still not worth that extra cash. Where does it say on the official webpage that is has HDR support? (I can't find it)
     
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    It's just a thought, in October my schedule will involve me spending days in a crash pad and a new laptop to tune in could make the time pass, but not for that price, the mechanical keyboard has caught my eye though and if I sold this one it may be worth it.
     
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    Says 1002 here :)
     
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    I noticed that, lol, I used Murphy's law to my advantage.
     
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    The GentechPC site still lists it as a 5ms 120hz display, and G-sync isn't mentioned.

    17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC

    The MSI product page, specification tab, doesn't list HDR or G-sync, but it does say 3ms:

    Display
    17.3" UHD (3840x2160), IPS-Level
    17.3" FHD (1920x1080), 120Hz, 3ms, Wide-View

    GT75VR 7RF TITAN PRO
    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT75VR-7RF-Titan-Pro.html#hero-specification
     
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    https://www.pcper.com/news/Mobile/MSI-announces-four-new-gaming-laptops


    (Skip to 0:44)

    It isn't mentioned because there is none, they dropped that feature in their laptops, thought I told you this before: http://prntscr.com/g3u1jo
     
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    MSI did not mention G-Sync for the GT73VR laptops either.
    But What the? MSI seriously saying that No G-Sync for the GT75VR? Probably they could not get that new panel G-Sync certified for the launch by NVidia. Same like Clevo was not able to get their 120 hz FullHD IPS AUO panel G-Sync certified with NVidia (but Asus was able to do it and the newer 17" Asus laptops are using the same panel with G-Sync enabled)

    120 hz 5 ms G-Sync panel >>>>> 120 hz 3 ms No G-Sync panel

    Will wait for the first review (I hope GentechPC is cooking up their usual outboxing+review video) if it really does not have G-Sync then I personally grab a discounted GT73VR 7RF instead of a premium priced GT75VR. Seriously, who the hell would buy nowadays a high end gaming laptop without G-Sync ?

    (Waiting for people commenting about "120 hz panel is smooth without G-Sync too!" :D)

    ps: What does he mean with "We still don't come with G-Sync" ? GT73VR has G-Sync.
     
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    Whatever to MSI, they never cease to disappoint just like any other laptop manufacturer out there.
     
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    Just like last seasons early non-G-sync certified display's shipped without G-sync GPU's, be aware you can't convert them later when the certification has been granted by Nvidia.

    You will need to get a new G-sync enabled version of the laptop to have G-sync.
     
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    Look at what she says exactly...:
    exact quote.JPG
    "for GT75, we still don't come with G-sync..."

    It doesn't mean GT75 will never offer G-sync, it means it still hasn't been certified for G-sync, so MSI can't release a G-sync model.

    The same thing has happened for a lot of laptops during the last release, for laptops with new displays that haven't been certified by Nvidia for G-sync and added to Nvidia's drivers.

    GT73VR came with G-sync later, and so should GT75VR :)
     
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    Well see bruh...
     
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    In short:
    Early adopters are screwed :)
     
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    This has been a question for a lot of new releases over the last few years. After people got stung with the first Asus / Clevo / MSI laptops without G-sync after all laptops coming out with G-sync, nobody knew until someone had them in their hands.

    Here's a good point back in the GT73VR first release days to read around before and after to see what people were saying. MSI didn't have G-sync in the product listings then either.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.794968/page-22#post-10339211

    Some Clevo (other?) laptops never came out with G-sync versions because the display panels they used weren't good, and didn't get certified by Nvidia, but most eventually came out with G-sync releases.

    It's all down the getting the freshest displays out into product before Nvidia can get the certifications done.
     
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    That's almost always the case. The few times it wasn't an issue it was awesome, but it's more the exception than the rule.

    Waiting 3-6 months for new products to get sorted out and reviewed in their "final form" is a good idea if you want fewest problems, notice I didn't say no problems, but most people can't wait that long :)
     
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    You can usually customize them at gentech PC and others and not have to buy the prebuilt ones. The prebuilt ones are ready to ship, but you can customize it down to 8gb, 16gb, 1-2 drives, etc.
     
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    I suppose GT75 starts as the absolute premium offering, and will become available in normal skus next gen. As means to clear stock?
     
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    Was that how it was with the two previous Titan releases?
     
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    Don't listen to anything MSI tells you. I've spoken to many MSI Reps and all of them say my screen does NOT have GSYNC, they also told me "where did you ever see it advertised as being a Gsync screen on MSI's site?" :rolleyes: When all the reviewers said it is GSYNC on their models and so did we users here confirm that.
     
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    And then a few months later the GT75 volta will release lol...




    Would like to know this too
     
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    Think Volta will come before 8th gen Intel CPUs? I see many refreshed skus, in quick succession. Poor manufacturers can barely prepare. And I wonder if Ryzen will get in the mix too.
     
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    8th gen as in Cannon Lake? Or Coffee Lake? If you mean the 6 core "Kaby Lake" refresh that will use the same socket as Kaby Lake, but (apparently) require new motherboards, no chance Volta comes before that....
     
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    I suppose the SKU that only has a 128GB SSD and 16GB RAM is probably still going to run $2,500.
     
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    It's not the same savings as getting the barebones models directly from MSI.

    MSI marks up the storage, RAM, etc hugely raising the overall price. Unbundling those same components won't decrease the price as much, they only give you a small credit reduction.

    It's much better to wait for the cheaper overall price on the barebones models.
     
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    If you are talking about the 1070, the 1080 will probably be over $3k.
     
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    Not always, MSI is usually pretty good about having lower priced sku's soon after release, they should show up soon.

    Asus on the other hand has in the past waited quite a while before bringing out the lower priced sku's, especially the 1080 models.
     
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    Yeah, they have usually a few models up front when new computers launch (or at least have them announced), then over the coming months maybe come out with different variations. Usually they might have versions with almost no added ram / SSDs, and then some that are loaded up to be a bit higher configuration. Not seeing any more of the bare systems in this case, hopefully we might though.
     
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    LOL

    Again, those specs...4K with a GTX 1080, 4K with 1070N SLI, a FHD with a GTX 1070 @3299$, did MSI gone stupid this time? :D

    Where is the HDR that they've promised?

    Again, don't buy this piece of filth...not worth the money, buy the GT73 instead with real specs or don't buy any of their products, that should teach them a lesson. :p
     
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    I agree with you dud :)
     
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    lol, that's so expensive
     
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    Some German shops now also have it in stock.
    Interesting to see that Europe has FHD120hz3ms@GTX1080 while US shops only have FHD120hz3ms@GTX1070.

    Amazon Germany said the FHD 120 hz 3 ms panel has G-Sync but I asked them to double check it. We shall wait and see.
     
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    I'm also waiting for the FHD120hz3ms@GTX1080 in US and i hope that they will have it as well. It doesn't make any sense for FHD 1070 and other is 4k screen only available and the price was too high.
     
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    Anyone other than boutique shops selling it?
     
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    FHD120hz3ms@GTX1080 model popped up on Scan UK site too for about 3600 USD.
    Scan also claims that the 120 hz panel is G-Sync.
     
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    Surprise surprise, FHD GTX 1080 is well over $3700, maybe more.
     
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    It costs $3633.55 US according to current exchange rates :)

    MSI Titan Pro GT75VR 120Hz Full HD GTX 1080 G-SYNC Gaming Laptop
    17.3" MSI GT75VR 7RF(Titan Pro)-011, 120Hz FHD G-SYNC, i7 7820HK, 16GB DDR4, 256GB M.2 SSD+1TB HDD, 8GB GTX 1080, Win10
    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...0hk-16gb-ddr4-256gb-m2-ssdplus1tb-hdd-8gb-gtx
     
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    Also the UK has 20% tax over the US price so!if we remove that the US price should come to around 3000 USD.

    So at current rate comparing gt73vr with the gt75vr with same specs (CPU, ram, ssd), the gt75vr is about 300 USD more expensive.
     
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    Regarding Cooling the heatpipes seem the same, but they are not painted black anymore.
    Fans look also the same but NBC claims that they are louder and components run much hotter.

    No wonder the EU models have G-Sync for the built in screen, it seems the EU gt75vr is using the same screen as the GT73VR. But MSI claims the GT75VR is only built with the new 3 ms screen...I am confused .But if it is the same, why is g2g response time much better than the gt73vr?

    Comparing the gt73vr and gt75vr NBC reviews it seems the GPU in the gt75vr runs 10c hotter and the cpu 5c hotter.
     
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    Oh boy, they are getting backwards. I'm glad I didn't pre-order that thing. :rolleyes:

    The specs are just the same as the GT73, keyboard and the screen are very minor upgrades, too expensive, I don't know where they are going with this.
     
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    No HDR, slower card reader, less efficient cooling (unless nbc was noob and used it with auto fan), same (?) LCD panel (false advertisement again from MSI?), much higher price.

    Oh yeah, it now has RGB !!!!! Keyboard.

    Honestly, is there any point buying this considering that the much faster Coffee Lake CPU is out next month?
     
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    I know right.

    They obviously fk'ed up this time.
     
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    They wanted to improve the GT series by adding a keyboard made for the damm thing instead of a premade/everything stuck together Isuppose. Isn't the new keyboard supposed to use micro switches, making it somewhat a mid way of mechanical keyboard?

    According to the review, the screen is the exact same one, so I wonder why it has different metric results in general. Cooling seems to be the same, so probably they had a bad paste job? I am not worried about that, pipes and all seem to be the same so I know it is capable, it might be a matter of repasting.

    HDR would have been nice though.

    But now with the announcement of 8th gen intel on august 21, and volta probably next year, this GT75 got stuck in between upgrades. I would consider upgrading once new CPUs come out, but I am also thinking maybe it might be worth upgrading with a new 6 core CPU+ volta GPU.
     
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