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    MSI GT72S - How good is it?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Epx998, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. Epx998

    Epx998 Notebook Guru

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    I agree they are worth it. They are built very well and have some good stylings to them as well.

    They have a good cooling system on them to keep up with longer duration game play and overall have a lot of good customer reviews. Let us know if you need anything!
     
  4. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Be aware there are other options that may be a bit more cost effective. The Clevo P770DM-G is another great option. I would price compare the two and see which is cheaper as the Clevo has a mighty desktop cpu in it. In the U.S. they are sold as a Sager.
     
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    If you compare a GT72S with $2373 in versus a P770DM-G with $2449 in cost ($76 more).
    Clevo P770DM-G is another choice with a more powerful processor, it has an i7-6700K which outperforms i7-6820HK by 1900 points in Passmark benchmark.
    i7-6700K has 91W TDP so it's going to run much hotter than a i7-6820HK with 45W TDP, and of course noisier on the fan.
    Both configurations include a 980M so you will benefit slightly more fps from P770DM due to a better processor.
    Both configurations also include a Samsung 950 Pro 256GB SSD which is extremely fast.
    GT72S has an All-in-One USB 3.1 Type C which P770DM-G doesn't have.
    P770DM-G is slightly heavier than GT72S - 8.6 lbs vs 8.36 lbs.
    Both provide a 2-year limited warranty, however MSI also offers 1-year global warranty so if your system breaks while you travel then you may be able to receive service at a different country, and 1-year accidental warranty (both are overlapping on the 1st year) if you register within 30-day of purchase.

    So I would say both systems are both pretty cost-effective and they do provide excellent value.
     
  6. Epx998

    Epx998 Notebook Guru

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    I listed those MSIs because its my understanding they are using a desktop gpu, kim not referring to the cpu.
     
  7. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    That is also available in both laptops the MSI and the Clevo P870DM. They cost a lot more though.

    Edit: Typoed P870DM is correct
     
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    If you wanted both Desktop CPU and GPU you would want the P870DM.
     
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    Epx998 Notebook Guru

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    Re-hashing this. Getting closer to buying a laptop (slight diversion back in March when I posted - twins showed up 6 weeks early)

    Ok, so my choice I guess are the MSI, Sager or ASUS - wanting one with the 980 desktop GPU. $2500-3000 range.

    Help? :)
     
  10. mufferer18

    mufferer18 Notebook Consultant

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    If you want the real desktop gpu - GTX 980 notebook edition (the full GTX 980 in the laptop), you must take MSI GT80S, because there isn't any GT72 with GTX 980. With GTX 980M, yes there are, but this is mobile edition (a little slower than 980, 20%). Or Sager NP9870-S, it also contains GTX 980. This is MXM cards, so if there get pascal - in october/november, you can change it probably (there isn't 100% sure, because they may not release or there might be some compatibility problems)
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Almost correct :)

    The GT72S replaced the GT72, and the GT72S does have a couple of models with the full mobile desktop 980:

    GT72S DOMINATOR PRO G DRAGON (6TH GEN) (GTX 980)
    https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT72S-Dominator-Pro-G-Dragon-6th-Gen-GTX-980.html#hero-overview

    GT72S DOMINATOR PRO G (6TH GEN) (GTX 980)
    https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT72S-Dominator-Pro-G-6th-Gen-GTX-980.html#hero-overview

    And, the GT80S has *2* mobile desktop 980's, in SLI :)

    And, the GT80S is being replaced by the GT73S and GT83S, with the GT83S getting the *2* mobile desktop 980's, in SLI.

    There aren't any product pages for the GT83S or GT73S yet :(

    And, the 1080/1070's are worth waiting for... much faster than even the *2* 980 SLI GT80S models.
     
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    mufferer18 Notebook Consultant

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    I see some GT80s not only with sli, but maybe there were customs.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There was a single 980m single GPU GT80 (without the S), but those disappeared, and only SLI models remained.

    By the time the GT80S 980 desktop mobile SLI arrived, there were only SLI models.
     
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    I would suggest trying the GT72 before you buy it. I tried living with the keyboard... but I can't, low keytravel, poor feedback and ghosting problems at the IJKL side (I'm lefthanded btw).

    The keytravel is about 1.5mm, which for a device this thick is really bad.
    [​IMG]

    They just stuck the same keyboard as the ultrabook like GS series in a desktop replacement machine. The build quality and materials isn't that great either (compared to my old R4 the MSI looks like a cheap Acer).

    So if you can live with the keyboard and a lot of people can. I'm just really nitpicky when it comes to keyboards. It's a pretty machine aside from the keyboard and mediocre chassis, there is a lot to like such as the good cooling, very good sounds, good display and so on.
     
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    I dont know but keyboard in GT70 and GX was good for me
     
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    I just got the MSI GT72S w/ 980 last week. Get it! Or get the Sager one if you have extra cash.
     
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    GT72/S is a very good machine, but I would consider Sager or even Asus if you want really quiet gaming.
     
  18. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Save your money, wait until November for black Friday deals, during that time there might be newer gaming laptop with a much more powerful specs, also there might be a price drop for other gaming laptop that has been released back in 2015 e.g MSI GT80 Titan, GT72S, etc. because newer version of them will come out.
     
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    I enjoy mine. It has a nice screen though there is some light bleed (I only notice it during the boot process). It plays all my games very smooth with very high detail. However, while I use this almost exclusively for games I don't play any FPS games so perhaps I'm not all that demanding. The bottom cover is a bit hard to get open the first few times but the clips get easier. Appears to take 2 NVM and 2 SATA M.2 drives as well as a single 2.5" drive.

    The only issue I've had was needing to reset the EC by pressing a paperclip in a small hole on the bottom (with power off and unplugged) right after I received it or the boot process took forever. The same glitch occurred when upgrading from 24GB to 32GB RAM (very slow boot, Logo took forever to show). Had to press the EC twice and then go into the BIOS and press F9 to Load Performance Defaults and reboot. Worked perfectly after that.

    All in all a good machine if you get a great deal.
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    This.

    Current laptops aren't worth it with their current price range, wait until you get a good deals.
     
  21. unpilot

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    Do you think $2400 US for this MSI GT72S Dominator Pro 4K-059 is a good enough deal??
     
  22. marios50

    marios50 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is that the one with the GTX 980? If so I think yes.
     
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    Yep that is the one...with 4k screen...hard to find info on this one.
     
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    I have the same one but with the FHD screen, its identical besides that.

    If you need any info let me know.
     
  25. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    I agree with this. But I favor the Clevo for cheaper and easier to replace parts when upgrading, like if you want to use the larger next gen MXM cards coming out, I've seen in the past MSI pricing was always a tad bit higher and your getting basically the same thing. If you reliably get from the USA, I would stick with Clevo's. If your international, I think I would stick with MSI. I feel Clevo oversea's has a random method to assembling but in north America it's pretty standard, and uses all the same parts from each place, same quality components etc.. MSI is starting to IMO become like DELL, in that they're starting to offer slightly cheaper components, but not always on thier upgrades. I do not know why this is, but it makes me believe they are importing parts from whatever and where ever is cheaper, to make an extra few bucks.

    Thats a slipper slope you know. However, MSI is still a great brand. just wanted to add my thoughts and give the page a bump :p
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    I find it personally, difficult to deal with ASUS. I LOVE thier ingenuity and the fact they stand out alone, but hate the fact everything has to come from them because they use form factors no one else supports, and this also means they use varying quality components that which they buy in very large bulk and thus quality tends to be a bit more random too. But when you get a good one, it's like the lottery, you got lucky. For me thats not what I would pay extra for, i want reliabilty 100% when pushing something to the limits. However , I give ASUS props for doing things others wish they could do, like thier own RnD teams and designs are VERY nice. Wish we had that on Clevo's. MSI too, as they're like half way to being like ASUS in many ways IMO. (though soo much smaller... but in terms of laptops, looks and feel)
     
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    These are my exact thoughts.

    I was considering a clevo (and I still am) but the lack of support, backup and confidence in my area made me go against it. Not to mention the whole resellers thing is a mess between them in europe.

    I just found MSI to give me the support I need and guarantee me upgrade to 2 generations which is something Clevo cannot assure you. If you have a great clevo reseller next to you then by all means go for it if you want.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    So, I'm not the only one seeing issues with the Eurobranches. I feel it's like half of them get from China, and that might be why.
     
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    Basically, I wish I had eurocom or hidevolution options in europe.

    But that import tax, shipping and the restriction of having to buy as a personal consumer (In europe, if you have a company you get about 20% off the product as tax elimination) make it impossible to import :(
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Less than 1% of the people I ship to in Europe or UK or wherever end up paying VATS or Customs or Taxes.
    I'm even saying 1% because there was this one time, but it was last summer. Anyways, if anyone wants to know how to avoid the excessive fee's it's very easy, but the company has to agree to it first.

    I always offering declaring for a lower value, and sending it as a gift. If I'm shipping to like Spain or France, have to be extra careful, and still include a invoice, and mark it as parts or not working even, depending where it's going. Otherwise they hold it, and it slows down for 1-2 days.
    I have harder issues shipping to Iran or Iraq or other places in the middle east though UAE has never been hard or an issue, easy as Pi. :p

    So ask your seller what they can do. Most the time they do not cater much because they have a process and they just do its so many times the same way, its just simplier. Smaller guys can take the time needed to add the extra attention to detail and help out much more.