MSI GT627 extreme CPU support, can you change the multiplier in the BIOS?

Hi,

With MSI notebooks and extreme CPUs, can you change the multi in the BIOS?

 

I don't have the little brother (i.e. 15 inch) but I don't think so. The only thing regarding OC at BIOS menu is the value of increasement of your FSB you want to be applied when you press Turbo button. Such as 16%, 20%, 24%. You can't change the multiplier from there, but there are a lot of programs that will allow you to do that through Windows.

Edit: O moral, is that you ... I thought it's somebody new to the forum ... So you know that already

 

Do you mean programs like RMclock, crystalCPUID...?
Because I heard they don't help if you want to change the multi higher than stock

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It's disappointing that they don't have the option in the BIOS. I wanted to get a Q9200 and run it at 4ghz (or as high as it would go with a volt mod).

Do MSI listen to customer suggestions or is the only hope a BIOS mod?

I wonder if it's worth making a thread similar to this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=441086

But asking for extreme CPU support?

 

Try using xtreme tuning utility XTU (Official xtreme series tool)

 

Ok, thankyou, I forgot about that program.

I just hope the quad works in my notebook.

 

Yes, but in order to change your multiplier above stock value, you need a CPU with unlocked multiplier. It's not something that some program do. I don't know if the quad core CPUs come with such (I don't really think so.), but all I know is that you can find such on eBay, which I don't recommend to you. Many of CPUs sold on eBay with unlocked multiplier are early ES and you'll have a lot of troubles if you get one. You can search for a way to unlock a multiplier, but I don't think is that easy anymore like it was on old Duron CPUs.

Enthusiast How you will cool that? You'll move to North Pole?

As I said, it's not a issue for the BIOS to unlock the CPU multiplier. It must be unlocked from the vendor. You can ask modders to place a tab or I don't know what for OC, like desktop models has ...

 

I have read that even if you get a CPU with an unlocked multi, you can't use RMclock, crystalCPUID... to change it.

That's why I started this thread some time ago:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=442673

I guess the only thing that could work is XTU, but that also needs BIOS support.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, the Q9200 has an unlocked multi.

 

Mandrake had a 9300 that hit 4ghz each, he camped outside haha.

Q9200 i don't think could reach that though, it'd ramp up nicely but i have doubts at how well it will tollerate the pressure (Q9200 isn't official extreme is it?)

There is a minor chance it could work with an earlier bios, but thats risky too haha.

 

Most ES/QS comes with unlocked multi and are very safe. A lot of NBR members been running ES for yrs and so far none have complained.
So I don't know what you on about ....

There's some that you need to avoid but QAVR , QAVS are basically QS and very stable.

I doubt XTU will work as it's not supported by MSI/Bios and the Q9200 isn't really an Extreme processor unfortunately

You can use Crystalcpuid to change the multi. Most programs doesn't work on the 725's BIOS ... and that suck big time ! Have to use the barebones one IF I want to OC.

They don't listen either if you complain or ask something .....

E : 4ghz !? good luck keep us posted !

 

While I don't really use ES chips much anymore, everyone I used was rock solid and worked great. Just make sure you're getting a real Qualification Sample chip which is effectively the same as the retail version.

And yeah, for the Q9200, QAVS is the most sought after, but QAVR is pretty much the same too.

 

I see you have a Q9200, did you change the multi with crystalCPUID?
What was the highest you could get (at least 12?)?

4ghz would mean I'd pin mod the PLL to 333mhz and set the multi to 12.
Would definatly need a volt mod, and a big one at that

I have a cooler which blows over 120CFM, maybe I'll add a few ramsinks to the heatsink...

4ghz is the aim, I would be happy with ~3.5.

 

I think it was 13 , i'm not sure .. could have tried it but nothing works on my current bios.

Nice , don't forget a tuto for it ! would come in very handy

 

Not going to happen. MSI bios is really limited and none of those programs (intel's and the others) are going to be able to help. I tried.

 

Yep, I'll write a guide if I manage to get the Q9200 working with this notebook.

EDIT: Didn't see Darth Banes post, I guess I'll go for the Q9100, unless maybe a BIOS mod is possible

 

Nice Why wouldn't it ?

 

I haven't seen anyone using a quad in the GT627, and this thread wasn't really positive:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=457088

 

It was sold in the UK with quad (Q9000) so it should definitely work. OR am i missing something here ?

 

I don't know, are you sure it wasn't the GT627 Q version (if that makes a difference)?

Maybe with the latest BIOS it will work, I wont know till I try.

 

I bought the dual core of the 725 and stick a quad in it .. is that what you mean by Q? Q as in the Quad version ?

I personally think it should work ...

 

I'm using also an ES CPU (actually QS), but it is not unlocked upwards (only downwards, multiplier: 6-10). As I know only earliest versions has that type of multiplier. And I don't complain about mine. It's very good CPU.
As I know ES CPUs with unlocked multiplier (upwards) have different issues. There was a problem here at the forum that I remember. One guy bought a CPU with unlocked multiplier (early ES ofcourse) and his system was running at lowest multiplier (x6), doesn't matter what. Maybe this is a BIOS issue, that happens with unlocked CPUs, but he had to manually set it every time (I think it was with RM Clock) when he starts his computer.

 

Yes Q was for Quad, and I hope you're right

 

One rare unlucky ES user then. Most of what available now shouldn't be an issue at all for normal usage , as for OC , it will depend on the bios.

If that's the case it should ! mine came with a p9500

 

If anyone reads this and has a CPU with an unlocked multi, PM me because I have a special BIOS you might want to try.

 

My Q9200 arrived today. My GT627 is the UK version that came with a Q9000, so no problem with the new one, pluged and working. I'd like to try some overclocking though, which doesn't seem easy to do with this laptop...
I'm trying to change the multiplier and/or increasing FSB with software but none of them seem to work. BIOS mod anyone?

 

Here is an easy way to do it:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...unlock-core-2-extreme-multiplier-windows.html

You should get over 3ghz no problem.

To increase the FSB, did you try this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...-shown-gt627-but-should-work-all-similar.html

 

Thanks for your quick reply!
I'm trying to increase the multiplier with ThrottleStop but I can't I can decrease it though... something missing?

Edit: Working after a restart! Thanks a lot man

 

Hey moral did u find any new interesting facts about the gt627's capability to support quad cores ?

Ive given up but i always wished for a quad upgrade T<T

 

Sorry I haven't.

I too have always wanted a quad core, but they arn't really cheap enough for me.

If I see one in the NBR marketplace for a good price, I will probably get it.
I'll also make a few bids on ebay and maybe I will be lucky and find a cheap one there.

If I try a quad in my notebook, I will post my results in this forum and send you a PM.

Good to hear it's working

 

Yeah, but I don't think is a good overclocker. 2.8Ghz @ 1.18v seems to be the limit for 24/7. I need a lot of more V if I want to go further and then it overheats... Can not complain though, big improvement from the low end Q9000