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    MSI GS72 Stealth Pro 4K

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Saveikis, May 20, 2016.

  1. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    Hey there!

    I am planning to buy this MSI GS72 Stealth Pro laptop with a built in 4K screen. Was wondering if maybe someone has it already and could share some personal thoughts about this machine? Cuz it is kind a new piece of machinery, that has been released recently and not that many reviews are out there, in particulary for this laptop.

    Any thoughts? :)
     
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    I haven't handled it yet. I will say that the 4K screens look fantastic, although be prepared for some scaling issues in Windows.
     
  3. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    what kind of scaling issues? :eek: are they major or just random sometimes? Cuz I might as well just go for a model without a 4K panel, just to have the smooth overall performance..
     
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    Nothing major. You might find a lot of windows very difficult to read; the high resolution makes for some very small text and/or images. Even installing Windows in 4K makes for a little bit of eye strain! It's a bit of a trade off, as the image quality is very good, still.
     
  5. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    Fewwww.... :confused: You got me scared for the moment being.. Cuz I have seen several laptops with the scaling issue, what comes to 4K resolution and then downscaling games to 144op or 1080p while the desktop resolution is till maintained at 4K can cause some weird image placement while playing... But the fact that the text can seem small, for me it it is not a problem, I've seen it in reality, how a 4K resolution works on a 17inc monitor ;) That was not too shabby for me at all!
     
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    In that case you just might LOVE it. :vbwink: The previous "Stealth" systems were very nice; going off of those, I think you'd be happy with the quality. The Dynaudio speakers are not as good v.s the ones equipped on the GT72 or GT80, but still decent.
     
  7. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    This laptop is exactly the perfect match, being thing, loght and packing some serious performance at the same time. And since I am a gamer, the speakers do not make that big of an impact on the overal product, since I use the headset in most of the cases :) I do hope it will turn out the experience as you say, cuz the few reviews I've seen online, impressed me a lot. But would rather get some personal experience from people as well before making up my mind :)
     
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  8. cgeorgescu

    cgeorgescu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Don't buy it. I bought it and the screen is lame at best. Not lame comparing to an expensive laptop but lame comparing to a $450 cheap laptop. Really.

    I got my MSI GS72 with 4K "IPS-like", "True Color" screen on Saturday July 2nd, it cost me $2000+ and:
    - the screen has a very high black level, way higher than any screen I've ever seen. It's the worse screen in our office, there and about 90 laptops here, plus another 30-40 desktop screens. I'm talking old crappy laptops with 1280x800, we still have 19" screens, most "new" desktop monitors are 1680x1080@20in, imagine that. Well, all these screens have better black than my brand new MSI;
    - the "IPS-like" screen is grey in plain daylight even on its lowest brightness setting. I can barely see the text on the screen at this brightness but still, the black looks grey. It's black only when I turn it off;
    - it's blueish on the right side. Visibly blueish not with the MSI background image but with black solid color. At minimum brightness. At maximum, the whole screen is grey and light-grey on the right;
    - there's backlight bleeding, plenty, around the borders. On top of that, there are some spots, like from some white LEDs.

    After I got it, I went to FNAC (a local but pretty big shop here in Belgium) to see if their MSI GS72s (cause there were 2 exposed, with and without the 4K screen) have the same screen problems. And yes, those 2 MSI GS72s are the worst in that long line of exposed laptops. Any €500 machine has deeper black and better contrast. The difference was immediately visible, those MSIs were way worse than anything else.

    (why I ordered my laptop from States instead of buying here: cause here they don't have all the variants and they all come with Dutch or French keyboards, stuff I can't use)
     
  9. ryzeki

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    Can you post pictures comparing the laptops so that Saveikis has a better idea about the 4K screen? Try not to copy/paste posts. You can link to your post if necessary.

    Maybe your panel is too tight, it sounds like the right part is being pressed more than the left, resulting in more light bleeding.
     
  10. cgeorgescu

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    I'll try provide some comparison pictures next to other laptops or monitors later, as I have to bring this lame laptop with me at the office again. Everybody noticed this is my new laptop, everybody will be laughing at how stupid the screen is.

    For now (as it's 23:41 here), I took a lame picture with my phone.
    That's my MSI GS72 Stealth Pro 4K laptop with the brighness set at about 30%. What you see on the desktop is not a picture but plain black. It shows orange/blue now, yesterday used to be blue on the whole right side.

    If I turn the backlighting higher, that "black" looks seriously grey. If I turn it lower, the "black" gets darker but then the room has to be absolutely dark in order to see any text on the screen.

    My hand is in the picture to get an idea of how dark/lit my hotel room was.
    (and the white text on the screen is a little bit overexposed by this stupid phone which averaged the light across the frame, thus exposing for the dark parts, not for that white small text)
     

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    TLDR version: the blue tint of the black (especially the strong blue when seeing the screen off-center) gets lower and lower with time, and the black level gets way lower the very moment you run MSI True Color (if you can run it).

    The long version follows...

    Last evening in FNAC (the local shops in BE), I saw again that blue-tint which is very strong on the black screen when you see the screen off-center. 45 degrees and the black background is dark blue.
    Cause this laptop (GS72 but FHD) was in-line with another 5-6 different ones, I thought to show that problem to one of the technicians just to see his reaction. To my surprise, he instantly replied with something like "yeah, this one is new, that's why it's blue".

    Me: ?!?

    I asked for details and he took me to other two G-something (maybe GL, 17" and FHD) and one was blue, one not (from aside). He told me that, when he puts a new MSI laptop on the shelf, it's blueish, then, after a few days, it gets in-line with the other exposed laptops. They come with a demo-something preset that keeps the screens on all the time, the backlighting is on 24h/day, and I should do the same, let the backlighting bed-in for a while.
    OK then. Thanks.
    And, I have to admit, the screen of my own laptop is already better. I keep it on only 4-5 hours per day and with a low brightness but still, from Saturday till now, it got better. At low brightness, the right top and bottom corners aren't orange and blue anymore. (well, at least not immediately visible. There still is some color uniformity but you can see it only in a dark room)


    Then I have another good news,
    (at least for me)
    I played with a GS70 (not GS72 but quite the same) in the shop, one that had no blue-black screen but still, worse black levels than any other laptop on that shelf.
    I caught this one logged in with an admin account (of some technician) and I started the MSI True Color software only to see how small/big impact it has, cause it does absolutely nothing on my laptop. I wanted to see what it does.
    Then I saw something almost incredible... In the very moment I start that software, the black went darker. Don't know if it was set on other profile, don't remember exactly, but any profile I selected in that True Color software, all of them, had a deeper black than before I started it.
    Out of those profiles, sRGB and Designer have deep blacks, Gaming and Movie not so much.
    But anyway, my impression was that I was the 1st one to start the True Color software on that computer and something dramatically changed: no matter which profile I selected after, the black was darker. Like I activated a hidden settings or something.
    (OK, the black wasn't OLED-kind but still, at least it got in-line with the other laptops around. Actually in-line with the mirror-kind of screens which are supposed to be better)
     
  12. unpilot

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    I wonder if this is the same screen on the MSI GT72S Dominator Pro 4K-059.
    I have a line on this for 2400 US and might pull the trigger but have read several bad reports about the screen.