MSI GE76 - Does it have G-Sync?

The new MSI GE76 with 150W RTX 3080 is packing some really nice features:

1) It has a MUX switch so users can switch between Optimus or Discrete graphics and it also has the feature to disable LCD panel overdrive, so MSI is doing the same as ASUS and they are not forcing users to accept inverse ghosting like Clevo does:


2) I do not know about the 240 Hz panel, however for the 300 Hz panel MSI is using the same G-Sync capable AUO B173HAN05.1 as Clevo is using for their X170SM-G.



So the question is: Since MSI allows Optimus to be disabled+they use a G-Sync certified screen, does this mean that this laptop supports G-Sync with the built in panel? Or did MSI actually cheap out and not implement the G-Sync license in the BIOS and despite having G-Sync capable hardware, the laptop does not support G-Sync with the built in screen due to software limitations?

Can someone with this laptop please confirm which one is it? No use looking up MSI website, they never state which of their laptops is G-Sync capable and which one is not.

 

I just got mine yesterday and no, the 300Hz panel does not appear to support G-Sync. On the upside, with VSync off, I haven't seen any tearing so far on Forza 4, Minecraft, or Cyberpunk.

 

Of course it has no G-Sync.
1. it is a GE series device that has never had G-Sync
2. it is an Optimus device, since G-Sync is not possible either. G-Sync only works if the Nvidia GPU is the only one in the device manager, apart from the certified hardware that is required for G-Sync.

 

I know it's a GE device but do far the GE was not the main flagship gaming laptop of MSI, but now it is.

I know that as of now the lack of Gsync was explained with optimus, however as I said optimus can be disabled with a MUX switch.

I have also written that it is using s Gsync certified screen.

So on the hardware level everything is given for Gsync to work the only question is was MSI and idiot and did they cheap out and did they not enable it in the bios level ?

 

Can you choose discrete gpu with Gpu Switch? The laptop restarts when I select the discrete gpu. However, there is no image on the laptop screen.

 

It has a MUX Switch. You can put it in Discrete Mode, which should make G-Sync perfectly possible. I have a Clevo with Optimus, it can use G-Sync when in discrete mode. Optimus does not mean no G-Sync.

That said, this laptop does not seem to have G-Sync. I bought it a few days ago, and haven't noticed any tearing, but in NVIDIA Control Panel there is no option to turn on G-Sync, but it might be using Freesync, which would explain the lack of tearing I have noticed.

 

Does the ge76 raider have gsync going out to an external monitor?

 

Yes

 

Logic dictates that if Gsync is available on an external monitor then the license must have been bought and be present in the bios. With the mux switch hardwiring the Gsync capable screen to the discrete card there should be no hardware or software issue holding MSI back on activating Gsync on the internal monitor.

So why isn’t it? What is the requirement that is not being met here?

 

There is no adaptive sync present. What you're experiencing is how these ultra high refresh rate screen refresh so fast that screen tearing is rarely present.

No, that's the external screen's license in play, the laptop is just connecting to it.

 

Trust me, I have bad ocd about tearing and stutter. This 300hz panel feels very smooth even with frames as low as 40fps in games. It feels like gsync is enabled. I have external monitors with gsync and the 300hz internal still feels more fluid than those

 

I just noticed in your signature that your 3080 is at 165w now. Did you shunt mod it or did I miss something?

 

It's 150w with 165w turbo boost, so I just listed the max tgp I see when benching. I don't ever see 165w in gaming though since any load on the CPU keeps the GPU TGP at 150 to 155w max

 

There is a guy on here @ mikolaj612 is his username. His Lenovo 7i has a Gsync capable screen and a mux switch but Gsync was not enabled by Lenovo. What he did was mod his bios to enable gsync and even made a tool that works for all Lenovo 7i models.

So I am guessing a simple bios mod for our MSI ge76 will do the trick.

Also, he said if we ran Linux with the Nvidia drivers install we should get Gsync, even without a modded bios.
On Linux, the Nvidia drivers doesn't sig check the bios for gsync certification, as long as the screen is gsync certified and the gpu is connected directly, ie mux switch.

 

Using an external gsync monitor and flipping back and forth between screens, I was able to trick the laptop and enabled gsync on the panel. Only issue is it stops working as soon as I disconnect the external display. So the screen definitely works well with it. But like I said, it makes no difference in terms of smoothness as the 300hz 3ms response time eliminates tearing and stutter even with frames below 100. See attached

Most monitors don't support gsync at all but you can force it on in the Nvidia control panel and hope it works with no issues. Not sure why we don't have this option for notebooks when all conditions are met. VA panels don't support gsync, but can still use gsync even though they flicker and sometimes black out from it. All non gsync IPS panels that don't support gsync can use it with no issue based off my testing on many monitors. So it can't be just a licensing thing.

 

This is interesting, how do you flip back and forth again? I'm using the UHD panel, I'd like to try and get that to work.

 

I wonder if svet on the MSI forum could create a similar BIOS mod.

 

Are MSI bioses locked?