MSI GE75 Raider v/ full 2080

To be frank, I’m exceptionally excited for this laptop to arrive.

Is anyone else?

 

Looking at the reviews from RTX 2070 and 2080max Q notebooks, not so much.

 

I must admit, yes, for the addition of other features that suit their portability.

I was just curious about exploiting the power of the full 2080 in the GE75, and its cost margin between itself and the GS75.

 

RTX doesnt even run properly on the 2080TI, not to mention that hitman uses RTX without using RTX....

There is no "full" 2080. its going to be so massively TDP limited it won't be very good... The only good thing might be the new AA method they are using.

 

In normal raster performance, the new GPUs are competitive vs current laptop GPUs, but their ray tracing performance really gets impacted.

 

Hey Guys, new 2019 GE75 w/GTX-2080 unboxing video....ENJOY!

 

In the video he says non-maxQ (6:18 in the video)?

 

The GE75? its supposed to be a full RTX2080.

 

I know this has nothing to do with the laptop in question of this thread, but how do i make a post on this website? I can reply to people but i have no idea how to make a post and i really want to be able to since i have some technical issues with my laptop that i need help with.

 

Well, I am slightly crazy but somehow I managed to snag a GE75 with 2080 from NewEgg. Guess it was the last one since it went to out of stock after I ordered. Should be here tomorrow....

 

Are you browsing on a regular computer or via a mobile device? The post window should appear at the bottom of the topic you are in*

 

I'm browsing on a laptop right now. I'm also not sure if a post and a thread are the same thing. I'm very new to these kinds of sites so i don't have much experience using them

 

I should have quoted -=$tR|k3r=- but he corrected it so no worries.

 

On the GE75 with the 2070 how can you tell if it's the Max Q or the full version?

Have one reserved for pickup tomorrow.

 

That's a good question. At the very least the box and all marketing should explicitly say Max Q, and perhaps the model of the GPU if you use GPUz might have a different designation. Not completely sure since I haven't used them myself, yet.

 

They aren't making it easy to make an informed purchase.

 

All the marketing on the official MSI site says that it's a 2080 full, Not a max-Q for the Raider GE75

 

The way the Raider series appears to be marketed, is that they contain the full 2070 and 2080 RTX chips. They differentiate to the Stealth series which have MaxQ cards, thinner form factor, smaller power bricks, etc. Stealth being more aimed towards portability and less power consumption, whereas the Raider series aimed at hopefully better thermal performance due to their thicker size, giving reason to include full RTX chips.

In a review video above, the GPU manages to stay at 74°C which is superb, but yet again the CPU seems to heat up into the 90’s.

Curious to see what improvements can be achieved with different thermal pastes, throttling etc. I have high hopes for this device considering its cost compared to the Stealth series.

 

I hope it's the full version, if not I'm sure it's going to be a big step up from the 970m

 

In GenTechPC’s video he shows the Device Manager which displays it as ‘Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080’ and does not show MaxQ anywhere.

Surely if they included the MaxQ version without advertising it, they would cop a lot of flak from the consumer base.

 

so during CES, I watched a video(don't know what one) where they mentioned something about Haptic feedback on the left wrist rest area. I think it was when they were looking at the raider though its possible it was the titan, but it seemed interesting. Also its possible that was just a prototype. anyone else catch this or have more info?

Edit:
I think I found it on this site https://gizmodo.com/msis-latest-laptops-are-smaller-sturdier-and-some-eve-1831768496

"So to help balance the “new feature” side of the equation, MSI is testing out a neat haptic feedback system on the new GE75 Raider that uses a motor installed beneath the left palm rest so you can really feel things like gunshots and explosions. It’s basically the laptop equivalent of controller rumble on consoles, and while I admit it does sound a bit gimmicky, it’s actually a nice way to add some extra spice to FPS titles that I can see expanding to more systems down the road."

don't know if its on this new batch though.

 

Yes! Mine should arrive Friday

 

Hey says non-max qbecause it isnt the max q. Not sure whats confusing about that lol.

 

Yes I know the post was changed to be corrected by the moderator's to state the correct gpu. Thats what the "?" was for.

I am looking forward to your impressions once yours arrives.

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I dont mind the plastic bottom, or being a little thicker than the gs65. Its the trackpad that really bugs me. Why cant the raider have a nice trackpad like the premium gs65?

By giving a mediocre trackpad they relegate the raider to be a small dtr with which we'd probably use a mouse at a desk.

Otherwise besides fat Clevos this seems to be the best full 2080 laptop right now.

....im thinking that Samsung is taking Nvidias advice and not labelling the 2080 in the Odyssey a maxq. Its just gotta be right?

 

I believe they don't place much attention to the touchpad in gaming laptops because you primarily use them for gaming, and thus game with a mouse. So if you had a budget of 2kdlrs to make a machine, you would spend the most in CPU/GPU/Screen and whatever is left, to the secondary stuff like the touchpad. People prefer even RGB lights on the keyboard over the touchpad etc.

I agree that this raider GE is a fantastic gaming machine still thin enough.

 

Never used the touchpad on a gaming laptop. Disabled on first boot and never looked at again

 

See what I mean I mostly do the same. I disable it via FN keys, because I do use my laptop as a laptop every now and then.

 

Will have my GE75 2080 Saturday! Can’t wait!!!!

 

My only concern with this laptop is the potential high fan noise, I could be very wrong but didn’t the old model of this series have really loud fans when gaming? Like in the 50Db range?
I know people are going to say just wear some headphones but that’s not a option since I have to be pretty alert taking care of someone and can’t have my ears covered when they need something.
Overall I like it though it’s still compact enough to be pretty portable for a 17” laptop but it’s a bummer there is no Gsync.
Why does MSI hate Gsync so much?

 

I wear a headset 24/7 while using a laptop so idc. I had the ROG Hero II and it was very loud at max fans but couldn’t hear it over my headset. Not too concerned. I could see where that may be a problem for you but I always just max the fans manually when gaming. I could report back on auto fans and let you know what I think.

You don’t really need GSYNC at a high frame rate really. Wouldn’t say they “hate” gsync, they leave it out to keep costs down most likely.

Also if anyones curious on duty to Canada on the GE75 2080 from HIDevolution it was $119 CAD (Alberta). Kinda of odd since I pay 5% tax, it should of been $200+. Oh well I’ll take it!

 

Hello fellow Albertan. What was the price like after currency conversion? I have one at memoryexpress reserved, but would prefer one with all the cooling mods done

 

Hello! You will be paying a premium but 100% worth it imo.

I just built one on HID’s website with just the cooling upgrade to test for you. With $50 rush and fedex ground it was around 3k usd. So that would be $4100 ish CAD @ $1.37

My order below was $3373.70 USD / Paid by paypal and was $4631.71 CAD.

Note I swapped the standard NVME for a Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVMe ($300 USD) among a few other upgrades you can see below.

Paid $50 for rush build (1-5 days) and shipping was fedex ground 1-5 days $38 ish.

You can build the setup you like on HID’s website then check the current conversion rate. I believe it was $1.37 ish at my time of purchase.

Custom Built MSI GE75 8SG Raider-048 - 17.3" Thin Bezel FHD 144Hz - i7-8750H - RTX 2080
Free Game Bundle
Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
Loot Box Level 2 Bundle
Gaming Bag, Dragon Doll, Gaming Headset
LCD Panel
17.3" Thin Bezel FHD (1920X1080), 144Hz 3ms IPS-Level, 100% sRGB, 72% NTSC, 100% sRGB, Anti-Glare
Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) - $35.00
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 w/ 8GB GDDR6
Processor
Intel® 8th Generation Coffee Lake Core™ i7-8750H 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.1 GHz), 9MB Smart Cache
Thermal Interface Materials
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces – BEST PERFORMANCE – installed by HIDevolution - $95.00
Memory
HIDevolution Approved Standard 16GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 8GB) - installed by HIDevolution - $85.00
M.2 PCIe RAID Options
no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)
M.2 PCIe Slot 1
Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write - Installed by HIDevolution - $300.00
M.2 PCIe / SATA Slot 2
None
2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 9560 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0 - installed by HIDevolution - $35.00
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Home, 64bit, English
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows - $15.00
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
280W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V)
Internal Battery
Internal 6 cell (65Wh) battery
Audio
Giant Speakers 3W*2 + Subwoofer 3W *2
Steelseries Keyboard
Steel Series per-Key RGB with Anti-Ghost key+ silver lining
Warranty and Service
1 Year Limited U.S. Warranty w/ 1 Year Accidental Damage "No Oops" Protection + 1 Year Global Warranty on base system w/ MSI in local region, where supported + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support
HIDevolution International Pre-paid Shipping (HIPS) Service
None
MSI Front Lid Logo Color
White (Standard)

 

Interested in seeing the turnout!

 

Sounds like a beast. How loud do the fans get?

 

The older model gets pretty loud and so does this model( i believe over 50DB under load/gaming).
OwnOrDisown has a review with the RTX 2070.

 

50 DB is damn good for laptops this size.

 

Idk yet, get it Saturday. I couldn’t care less though I wear a headset 100% of the time.

 

Hi guys, I don’t post much but I had a question as I’m shopping around like the rest of us. Just hoping some can confirm for me that the only difference between the GT75 Raider 2080 and the GT63 Raider 2080 is the screen size? Mine will always be hooked up to a monitor so I don’t care about screen size, and would prefer to have a much smaller laptop assuming it’s the same power. I know it’s all theoretical since no one has one in hand yet but hopefully the specs alone can confirm it. Thanks in advance.

 

The GT63 is the 15 inch version of the GT series so in a sense, yeah. In practice there might be other limitations like perhaps cooling is a tad better on the bigger chasis, there might be more SSD ports but in general they are about the "same".

 

If you are not in a hurry, I definitely recommend you wait for users to test out their machines so you can get a better idea of the products. There will be no shortage of tests, benches and reviews once these units ship.

 

Thank you so much! I was thinking about the cooling too given the smaller size but as long they’re basically the same power-wise that’s good for me. I’m currently an owner of those GT83 VR Titans and I just have to get something smaller lol. The GT83 still kicks ass today but I think it’s time for an upgrade and to something smaller lol. Thanks again

 

Hey don't mention it. I was one, if not the first GT80 titan owner and I know what you mean. I am also looking to "sidegreade" myself into a more portable machine, which is why I am thinking about the GS75. It has nearly the same power as my GT73 but considerable thinner and smaller/portable, plus better screen.

I would go for the GS65 if it wasn't for the lack of numpad which I do use, and because 15 inch screen on these eyes is not as pleasant as before hahaha

 

Oh that makes sense haha. I’m strictly using a monitor or TV and wireless keyboard so that won’t be a bother. Do you think, in your opinion, the 63’s and 73’s with 2080’s will perform better than the GT83 titans? Or at least on par?

 

Which version do you have, SLI 1070s or SLI 1080?

The 2080 is a small upgrade overall, but is going to give you around 20 and up to 30% more performance at high resolution (1440p and 4K) over a single GTX1080. Games that have SLI support, you will loose some performance, but games that don't support SLI you will have more performance. at 1080p it will be like 10% faster on average.

Nvidia is slowly changing/killing SLI and sadly that's no longer an option, so the best route is going the strongest GPU you can.

 

Yeah it’s the one with dual desktop 1080’s in SLI. Honestly I’ve never seen a game recognize, let alone use, both 1080’s and the same goes for SLI, it’s always just been the one card recognized. Of the games I've played at least. Neither seem to ever be supported so it does sound like this upgrade (sidegrade ) is going to be worth it! Not to mention knocking off 10 or so pounds of weight lol. Thanks again though, this feedback is immensely helpful and reassuring. I’ve always been nervous to part with titan but I think it’s time!

 

Oh, not taking SLI into account its definitley an upgrade, dont worry. Looking forward to read your impressions once you get your new machine

 

That’s great to hear! I shall definitely report back soon as I can. Thank you again!

 

i just ordered from B&H Photo the GE63 8SG. I guess it's the smallest full RTX 2080 available right now. Having said that, it's only within a half inch basically in depth of the GE75 and a 1/4 inch in width. I suppose they weren't able to slim those bezels and still fit a 2080 in there.
I would have gone with the 17" for sure except that 1080P just looks that much worse on 17". I've seen that exact type of screen on my old Aorus X9 DT and the 15" is noticably sharper. At least on the Razer Blade 15. ( my only comparision)

I think in the fall/late summer there may be power efficient 1440P high refresh screens available and then i'm going slim bezel 17" from now on.

 

Maybe to you but some people actually find that a bit too much, here’s the thing the reviewer got his with Hidevolution”s extra thermal upgrade solution with more pads and thermal paste so stock GE75’s May run hotter and louder. I hope I’m wrong .