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    MSI GE75 2GHZ GPU

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by LeonS3, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. LeonS3

    LeonS3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    :DHI folks

    My GE75 8RE with the 2060 GPU has many limits due to power limit and am trying to find a way to change it.
    Although i tried to undervolt it with the MSI AfterBurner but with no success.

    I found online a program call TDP Tweaker which now support RTX mobile series.

    What I must do to max out my GPU? Any ideas?

    Thank you,
    Leon
     
  2. yosv211

    yosv211 Notebook Consultant

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    I think your 2060 is already maxed out. Hitting 2000 on the core seems kinda high.
     
  3. LeonS3

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    The thing is that i put that title to have more viewers :p :cool:

    My 2060 is running at 1.5-1.6 GHz not 2.0 GHz.

    That's why am trying to max it out.
     
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    And this is why your posting doesnt have any posts besides myself. When you make a thread on a issue, you need to tell the truth so that it can be solved.
     
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    There are also many posts without replies.
    I didn’t lied anywhere, I just didn’t post my GPU speed(which I forgot).

    Do you have any knowledge on this?

    Thank you
     
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    heliada Notebook Evangelist

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    It seems this is just the way it is designed... all other ge75 with 2060 seem to act the same. I don't think your gpu can be tdp modded. Falkentyne modded his 1070 BUT that was on an mxm slot and in a laptop that could handle the power draw. He did need special tools for it (it was NOT done in software) - but I wouldn't know. You can try to contact him directly and nicely ask for advice. However, I am afraid what you want might not be possible as the chip is soldered on the motherboard and both power and voltage delivery may be insufficient to push more out of it anyway.
     
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    My ge75 has the 2080, so no, i have no knowledge of the 2060.
    But laptops have power limits that are stricter than desktops because of heat and heat dissipation. Laptops have smaller spaces so laptop bios are usually hard locked down.
     
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    Well I saw that you can undervolt the GPU on laptops to get higher clocks, like I did BUT like i see it i have 2 options:

    ~First to properly undervolt my GPU with MSI AfterBurner or EVGA Precision with the best curve I can get
    or
    ~Second to tweak my TDP higher (?)

    For the first option i tried my best and the results was like 1.7GHz(not always).

    I read somewhere that someone with 2070 did properly undervolt his GPU and got results like 2.0GHz stable. He had also post a benchmark I think FireStrike (?).

    That's why I'm trying to find ways to make my GPU faster.
     
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    Well in my case heat is no problem. With these clocks under heavy stress test my GPU has MAX temp 58-60 degrees. I understand what you're saying and you are totally right.
     
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    If you're trying to overclock, go buy a desktop. Overclocking on laptops is not worth it.
     
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    I'm trying to undervolt it SO it can go higher without power limits.

    From your second reply you're being ironic and also if you had read the thread from the first time and not trying to be compative the things would get better.
    I got it you have the same laptop with 2080, so 2080>2060 right ? haha :rolleyes:

    Have a nice day! :)
     
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    I don't think you understand what undervolting means for a gpu though... Undervolting a gpu always means limiting it. A specific voltage point is tied to a specific power draw and frequency. The only reason you may be seeing higher clocks is because for a given voltage point you can increase the frequency (OC). Essentially playing with the curve just gives better control and possibly better stability while overclocking. Undervolting (limiting the voltage available) will not increase the performance I am afraid, it may allow slightly higher OC but OC is an OC and seeing these 2060's clocking at 1400-1500 stock I'd say if you got it to 1700 then you have a decent overclocker on your hands. You are right looking at tdp modding but as I said that won't work with your laptop most likely. I'm afraid you have to learn to be happy with what you have or buy something better.
     
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    undervolting the gpu to get an extra 50mhz wont give any extra frames on any game, like i said, you want more performance, go buy a desktop.
     
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    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Overclocking is technically the same thing as undervolting. You will be getting higher clocks at a given voltage. So you won't be able to get more performance by undervolting.
     
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    Not necessarily though. To undervolt a gpu you do not have to OC. You just have to limit the voltage available to it (e.g. by flattening the curve horizontally beyond .9V the gpu will never go beyond .9V even if there are no other limitations). But well, if there already are power limits in place the voltage under normal gaming scenario will already be limited.
     
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    Finally i got some real answers and not mindblowns ( i think i made my own word here :p )
    So only solution is to wait for someone to try to tweak 2060? :confused:

    There is a guy online with 2070 which claims that he managed to achieve almost same score as 2070 desktop card with just MSI AfterBurner Voltage Curve.
    That's the main reason i started digging it.
     
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    Your problem is the TDP limit,

    V/F curve will only get you to a higher frequency with the current TDP limit but not gonna reach your goal.

    For the current situation, unlike the Pascal generation, the modded vbios isn't even accepted through hardware flashing for the Turing generation.

    You are out of options here until a stock vbios with higher TDP limit is found for the mobile RTX2060 for cross-flashing.
     
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    Well, it seems like someone needs more readings?
     
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    Overclocking on laptops doesnt produce the same results like on desktops.
     
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    Thank you for your reply mate !! :D

    Time is my only friend now :p
     
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    can you link it?
     
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