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    MSI GE72 6QF Bios Upgrade

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Faust-RSI, Nov 4, 2021.

  1. Faust-RSI

    Faust-RSI Newbie

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    The instructions from MSI official forum state:
    "If do you flash a notebook BIOS, you must do the following AFTER the flash:

    1. Turn notebook OFF with button, hold 4 seconds.
    2. Remove recharge plug
    3. Remove battery
    4. Leave it like this for about 5 minutes.
    5. Put everything back and power the laptop again."

    The purpose of it obviously is to reset EC. This is all fine and updating of my BIOS went flawlessly, however, I CANNOT REMOVE BATTERY. Because it is simply non-removable in my laptop.
    So, how can I reset EC?
     
  2. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Look at the bottom of the laptop for a small pin hole, and use that to disconnect the battery.
     
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    Faust-RSI Newbie

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    zipperi Notebook Deity

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    There should be some kind of switch straight down the hole.
     
  5. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    around ccmos battery is small button - CMOS or EC reset
    but no need - 45s power button when run "cmos reset" works similar or better

    edit
    if exist hole on back-cover is marked with
     
  6. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    I see it him :D

    Bez názvu.png

    this mark is EC

    //edit ,.,steps
    EC reset ,.no AC / fully shutdown ,,.,.small hole on back-cover - 30s
    after this plug AC ,.,.wait 5min .,,.run system

    you must see different boot time or blinking diodes
    "best is disable wifi before" and see this diode in reset ;)
    identical boot - no reset

    ///
    cmos reset - restore all your bios setup to defaults !
    EC reset - bios configuration is identical
     
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  7. Faust-RSI

    Faust-RSI Newbie

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    Thank you!
    I did everything as described, even waited a bit longer.
    But I am not sure if the boot was really different or it's just my imagination. By the way, using this switch won't let the PC to boot without AC, so the switch is definitely there and it works.

    Does it have something to do with EC version? After the upgrade I see the new BIOS version, but unfortunately I forgot which EC version was before upgrade, so I am not sure if it changed with BIOS version or after EC reset (if I succeeded doing it).
     
  8. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    E1794IMS .117 bios "special step is required"
    1794EMS1 .110 EC
    me fw update "ME118H" - 11.8.50.x.x"still old for detection tool - SA 86 detection"


    or send yours info - BIOS/MAIN ;)

    edit
    repair
     
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  9. Faust-RSI

    Faust-RSI Newbie

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    the versions are the same except for ME (the Intel report: https://i.imgur.com/eJw28F4.jpg), in any case, here it is: https://i.imgur.com/AL9AI8Y.jpg
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    look good ;) ,.,.only ME fw update missing
    but this is still old FW for SA86 detection "not more" 11.8.50 FW "still old"

    you not must risk update ! install only latest MEI drivers - topic here on forum

    or latest is 11.8.86 fw - this is no-vulnerable in this detection tool
    unofficial flash - RISKS !
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-laptops-drivers.800622/page-191
    last MEI drivers "safe"

    ,,.ME FW ? you need any this SECURITY ??
    The benefits for the average user are minimal and the flash is risk
    bad flash is "half/working notebook or dead notebook !"


    edit
    ME118H "msi package for update"
    11.8.50.3425 FW / old MEI DRIVERS / FLASH TOOL
    this works only here
    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intel_sa_00086_detection_tool.html

    for modern vulnerability fix is this FW still OLD - new detection tool
    11.8.86 - latest for 100-200series chip "unofficial way !"
     
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    I will add a warning
    never disable this ME fw in bios !! this version is impossible re-activated
    11.8.50 or older !! "possitible or new" but here exist info in change-log FIX for this problem

    but I never recommend turning off ME FW in bios !!
     
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    Thanks, I have updated chipset drivers from your link, but I am hesitant to use unofficial version of MEI, as it can literally kill the whole system.
    MSI official webpage only provides update to Version 11.6.0.1015 (Release Date 2017-01-12), and as far as I know ME firmware needs to be assembled separately for each motherboard - this is also the reason why Intel does not provide any generic updates.
    Is there any official safe update for my MSI laptop newer than 11.6.0.1015?
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    you confuse it
    MEI drivers - OK
    ME FW - problem

    links here - safe "for drivers" not contains flashtool or FW !
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    read this one more time
    official ME118H package contains - old drivers MEI + ME FW FLASH "11.8.50.3425 FW" but that's still old FW! "SA-86 fix only"

    full patch is only - last ME FW / MEI DRIVERS

    edit

    drivers - they are safe to use "these are up to date" -this link is recommended for win1709 +
     
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    I see, thanks. I have successfully updated MEI drivers.
    However, the link you've provided for 11.8.50.3425 FW contains only detection tool, the same I've already used myself.

    EDIT,
    NVM, found the official ME118H on the MSI website
     
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    Ok, I have updated to ME118H. Despite this, the app from the official Intel website shows my system is still vulnerable, while the one from your link now detects it as patched:
    [​IMG]
     
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    for modern vulnerability fix is this FW still OLD - new detection tool
    11.8.86 - latest for 100-200series chip "unofficial way !"


    ME118H "11.8.50.3425 FW" but that's still old FW! " SA-86 fix only"

    drivers is possitible use latest for any FW

    //edit
    but only unofficial way !
    Bez názvu.png
     
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    I think I get what you are trying to say - ME118H fixes only the old vulnerability, while there is another one, newer, and the newer detection tool still sees it. To fix the newest vulnerability 11.8.86 is needed - but it is unofficial ONLY and can harm my system.
    The latest drivers - MEI, however, can be used with any ME version.

    :)
     
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