MSI GE60 2OE-003US or MSI GE60 0ND-257US

Im looking at either of these PC's and Im confused as to which is better due to the Geforce card, and CPU.

MSI GE60 2OE-003US Notebook PC - Intel Core i7-4700MQ 3.4GHz, 8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, DVD, 15.6 Display, Windows 8 (GE60 2OE-003US) at TigerDirect.com

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MSI GE Series GE60 0ND-257US Notebook Intel Core i7 3630QM(2.40GHz) 15.6" 8GB Memory DDR3 1600 750GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M - Newegg.com

im assuming the Tiger Direct one is better but this says the GTX660 is better
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-765M-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

but the I7 is a 3.4ghz vs 2.4ghz

 

No No No.. The first laptop with the GTX765m is about 2x as fast as the GTX660m in 3dmark11!! The GTX660m is significantly slower than than the GTX765m. The link you provided compared a desktop GTX660 vs a mobile graphics card GTX765m. Thats not at all an accurate comparison. Please do yourself a huge favor and get the first laptop with GTX765m and new Intel Haswell CPU. You'll get HUGE gaming gains and much better temps and battery life!

 

Ahhh I get it the m means Mobile!
GeForce GTX 765M vs GTX 660M

Thank you Thanks you!

 

Just to clarify one thing: the i7-4700MQ isn't a 3.4GHz CPU, as we've seen everywhere, but 2.4GHz just like the i7-3630QM. The 3.4GHz is the maximum turbo frequency, and it's the same for both of them.

It's been interesting to note the marketing crap around this, as we see everywhere the new processors being connoted with the maximum turbo frequency whereas the "old" ones with their base clock speed. The Haswell one is faster, but not much faster.

As for the 765M, according to game benchmarks it's a 10-50% step-up from the 660M depending on the game, averaging around 25-30% from what I've seen. It has a higher TDP though (75W vs 50W) so it generates more heat, making me doubt about better temps on this one. I'd wait for reviews on that.

Battery life shouldn't change much unless they managed to completely shut-off the NVidia GPU while on battery, but I'd wager it's improved a bit.

All in all, at the same or similar price I'd get the new model.

Where I live the new model costs around 400€ extra (it has extras though: 4GB RAM, 500GB space, Windows 8 license, even though it's usually cheaper to upgrade the parts myself and I don't need Windows license since I already got plenty of them).

 

I based my opinion on the fact that the new Haswell processors do extend battery life. My new GT60 with Haswell is getting almost 5hrs. Also the temps of those processors are suppose to run a bit cooler since they are more power efficient.

25-30% increase in game performance is a huge upgrade and will help this laptop last longer at higher details and resolution for future games. The price difference between those two laptops is $100 AFTER a rebate. 30% increase in frames per second for $100 is money well spent IMO.

 

True, the new processors are more energy-efficient and dissipate less energy (although the chips run hotter) so that part should consume less and generate less heat, but the NVidia GPU went from a 50W part to a 75W one, so it generates much more heat while in use; battery drain would also depend on the idle NVidia power usage here.

The new RAM is DDR3L instead of DDR3, so it should see some battery life gain there as well.

Just recall the your GT60 has a 9-cell 7800mAH battery, while the GE60 has a 6-cell (probably 5200mAH). I'd bet its battery life being around 3h, and fairly sure it doesn't surpass 3,5h.

Indeed 25-30% is a big upgrade, and maybe with newer drivers and games it'll go up. If the price difference there is around 100$ then it's a no-brainer imo, get the new one.

I was talking about my case here where the price difference reaches 400€ (around 520$), and despite the newer one having some extra upgrades I'm not sure I'd buy the new one right now.

 

Thank you for pointing that out. Didn't realize the GTX765 pulled 25 more W. That will make a difference in temps and battery life. Maybe price drops will occur where you live? I guess were lucky in the US.

 

That we are.

@xrichierichx28 - Yep, the M = mobile and the Q = quad. Happy shopping!

 

Well, to be honest and for completeness sake, if I configure a last year's GE60 with 8GB RAM and 1TB HDD (still without OS) the difference is about 300€. Windows usually adds around 100€ to the price, so apples to apples it would be around 200€ difference.

For 200€ (apples to apples) we'd get around 30% direct gain in FPS (maybe more, maybe less depending on the title and settings) and a small boost on overall performance, added to BR drive (as opposed to DVD), backlit keyboard, a better finish and better look, and likely a bit of enhanced battery life.

Waiting for reviews to appear to comment on build quality, cooling performance, noise, keyboard and other probable enhancements.

I'd still probably pay the 200€ extra if the reviews are positive compared to the old one, but more than that would be harder to justify unless it's a stellar laptop.

I prefer having the option of getting the lowest config though, because I can get the 4GB RAM + 1TB HDD for less than 100€ and still be able to sell the 500GB one or keeping it for another PC. And as I said, I got plenty of Windows licenses so I don't need a laptop with one included.

Also note that currently I own a Vaio SVS1511 which costed me +- the same as a GE60 with a 650M back then. I chose this one because it's lighter (2kg), 100% built on magnesium alloy (nice build quality and feels great), backlit keyboard (hey, I fancy it), way better touchpad (the best touchpad I've ever used) and IPS panel (the orange issue is way overrated, fortunately) and has better battery life (5h with low use). Also the 640M LE runs on a almost 100% overclock without any issue, but that is a bonus.

I'd like to see the MSI catching up with mine on build quality (I know it's plastic, but still can be well-built), keyboard (surpassing even tbh), touchpad and panel. The weight doesn't matter as much, 2.4kg is fine, and battery life I know for sure it won't catch-up, so I don't even think about it.

 

I bought the MSI GE60 0ND, there is about 1 month ago, and I prepared a small review that I published on yo**ube ! I Hope that will help you to do your choice : MSI G60 0ND Laptop Full Review (2013) - YouTube

 

HA you should read the new GE60 owner's thread.
People are getting less than 2 hours surfing the web.
Not to mention gaming which only last 30 min on battery.
It's terrible.