MSI BIOS issues lost gsync and other stuff

after doing a Bios update i did not realized i needed a specific G-Sync compliant BIOS and so now G-sync is gone and my screen now reads as a 60hz screen instead of a 75hz screen

currently i have the most up to date version of the BIOS released by MSI and it is the WRONG one... for some reason MSI has non G-sync BIOS's on the support page for a specifically G-sync laptop....

so i need to find the earlier bios version to revert back...

which of course is not available through MSI

would love post in the MSI thread but there is no way for me to do this....

thank you any help would be great!

COMPUTER MODEL : Gt72 Dominator Pro G 6qe gaming laptop

 

notebook name first !

HWINFO .,,.main/ computer brand name
https://www.hwinfo.com/

 

COMPUTER MODEL : Gt72 Dominator Pro G 6qe gaming laptop

 

122 is last g-sync
gpu name ?

E1782IMS.122
1782EMS1.109

boot to bios ,..,.MAIN TAB --here verify what is inside
https://www.msi.com//Laptop/support/GT72-6QE-Dominator-Pro-G#down-bios
10C is older bios "but any downgrade is RISK !" not fully tested from MSI

check what is inside first

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DEVICE MANAGER - DISPLAY PNP DRIVERS ?
NON-PNP -- BAD EDID "hw defect in monitor" // sometimes x error 43 for gpu in device manager

 

?
122 /109 EC --works normal + g-sync

,.,from extreme old bios .,,..,first step is 10C bios ,.,.,122 -last
this is all


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DEVICE MANAGER -- here verify monitor !

DDU -clean drivers
install last nvidia drivers

G-syns test ,..,,.nvidia demo pendulum // or check in NVPANEL info for G-sync

 

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Last try...

You can not even access G-SYNC control if your BIOS doesn't let your system know it has G-SYNC, not in the control panel, Not anywhere

I ALREADY am using current upto date BIOS


Not sure how to post system info on this forum... .

But its futile at this point since no one here seems to know so i will move on....

Msi have posted the non g-sync version of the BIOS

I am not the first person to experience this issue, its also not only msi that makes this mistake

 

Are you using the original GPU in your system?

Did it originally have G-Sync enabled

If not which did you replace it with.

What Nvidia driver version you are using?


Your asking for help however the information your supplying is limited.

6QE means your on a HM170 chipset with a GTX980m.

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M



[Video chipset]

Video Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M

Video Chipset Codename: GM204M

Video Memory: 8192 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Elpida]


[Video Card]

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M [MSI]

Video Bus: PCIe v3.0 x16 (8.0 GT/s) @ x16 (2.5 GT/s)

Video RAMDAC: Integrated RAMDAC

Video BIOS Version: 84.04.85.00.0a

Video Chipset Revision: A1


[Performance]

Graphics Processor Clock: 708.4 MHz

Video Unit Clock: 652.5 MHz

Graphics Memory Clock: 405.0 MHz (Effective 1620.0 MHz)

Graphics Memory Bus Width: 256-bit

Number Of ROPs: 64

Number Of Unified Shaders: 1536

Number Of TMUs (Texture Mapping Units): 96



ASIC Quality: 75.5 %



ASIC Serial Number: 261993079249

NVIDIA SLI Status: Not Present



Resizable BAR Support: Not Supported



Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_11571462&REV_A1

PCI Location (Bus ev:Fnc): 1:00:0


[Driver Information]

Driver Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Driver Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M

Driver Provider: NVIDIA

Driver Version: 27.21.14.6611 (GeForce 466.11)

Driver Date: 11-Apr-2021

DCH/UWD Driver: Not Capable

DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_11571462&REV_A1\4&4AF17F&0&0008

Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0100)#PCI(0000)

 

Sorry yes i went from the 4GB gtx-980m to the 8GB gtx 980m both should support g-sync


But they are different chipsets

I posted video sys info last post


Thanks for being patient

 

Right, so you changed GPU, fair enough.

Is the new GTX 980M 8GB an MSI MXM Card or another brand all together?

Reason i ask is because like the people that upgraded from the 900 series GPU's to the 1000 Series GPU's the Device ID in the G-Sync Cookie doesn't match hence why G-Sync doesn't show.

To top that off MSI had two versions of the GTX 980M 4GB/8GB GPU's one with G-Sync and one without G-Sync.

So it would seem if you have a true MSI MXM GTX 980M 8GB GPU you purchased a Non G-Sync variant.

Although both GPU's would have G-Sync for external G-Sync monitors one variant doesn't have G-Sync for internal EDP screens.

Edit: Double checked and no your sysinfo does state its an MSI however the Device ID is 13D7 (Non G-Sync) a Device ID of 1617 means its a G-Sync card.

Before you ask no you can't simply flash a MSI G-Sync vbios to a non G-Sync GPU as the Device ID is hardware based via resistors.

This has been covered before in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/forcing-g-sync-on-13d7-980m-gpus.815029/

 

Ok... Well thanks..

I am not sure if G-SYNC at 4GB is better than no G-SYNC at 8GB...

How important is G-SYNC over 2x the vram for a game like cyberpunk 2077 or fallout4 do you think?

Am i really worried about nothing?

Also its not just G-SYNC lost its no longer running at 75hz like it should be

I did find a BIOS that brought back the 75hz 1782IMS.11B

Still using the most updated one however

 

Firstly, the EDID on any bios after .11B is set to 60hz unless you have a G-Sync panel to which activates the 75hz EDID profile (Which depending on make and model of screen can be re-activated via either RegEdits or a modified driver for the Display adaptor).

Secondly the difference between 4GB and 8GB VRAM depends on in-game settings such as screen resolution and graphical settings i would imagen Cyberpunk would love a 8GB VRAM card over a 4GB VRAM card, as low VRAM can cause performance issues as well.

If you can find out what your screen is i might be able to help you with the 75hz part if its an LG LP173WF4-SPF1 panel (I have both 75hz and 100hz EDID's for that panel).

You can use something like CRU ( https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU) and a set of EDID's from me to get the 75hz back without issues.

If it is the LG LP173WF4-SPF1 using the CRU Utillity import only one of the .bin file thats in the .zip file attached, then reboot the system or use the restart64.exe file within the CRU zip.

 

my screen is LG Philips LP173WF4-SPF1 so that should work.. thanks

 

How did it go??

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You should be able to create a custom resolution with 75Hz as the refresh rate in the Nvidia Control Panel.

I've seen people OC this display as high as 90Hz.

 

Yes i tried this and it didn't work it just created a distorted fizzy screen, i assume that feature is for external screens, older BIOS bring it back to 75hz, But i want of course the most updated BIOS so i have to try the other method...

 

I managed to get my panel to 100hz but each panel is different.

Even the times will be slightly different, which is why I included the 3 .bin files, one directly from the system when gsync was enabled and the other two was custom tuned.



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took me a bit to get back to this... what i find confusing is that CRU lists my display as something else totally... I tried one of your files it seemed to read out on the system as 1.000Hz ? ( is this how 100Hz is read ?)

i assume i am supposed to use the import feature...

i didn't screen grab unfortunately

it did include my TV that i connect too sometimes

it doesn't say "LG LP173WF4-SPF1"


so i am a little confused

 

Yes you use the import feature to import the .bin file of your choice you then run the restart.exe or restart64.exe to restart the display driver for the changes to take effect.

100Hz is 100hz the bin files i have included are for internal screen only. Personally i would import Gsync EDID.bin first and give that a try then failing that one try importing LP173WF4-SPF1-GE.bin, please don't go straight to using the 100HzOC.bin file yes it will have 75hz 85hz 100hz options but the latter options was tweaked on my panel.