MSI 1727 Review: Power Consumption, Heat generation, Benchmarks oh my!

MSI 1727 Review (Power Consumption, Heat, Benchmarks and more oh my!)


Last updated: 2/23/2010

Resources:

Before asking any questions, please check out the 1727 FAQ (Message #2 in this thread).

In addition, please check out the Official GT740 / 1727 thread here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=435164

Overview:

The 1727 / GT740 is the logical successor to the MSI 1722 / GT725.
This review will focus primarily on the MSI 1727 which is the barebones version many resellers (XoticPC, RKComputers, etc...) lovingly configure for their users
to their exact specifications. This review will also compare/contrast the 1727 to the 1722. My original review of the 1722 is here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=343349)


Upon arrival:

In classic MSI style, the 1727 arrived in the standard brown box and look as the 1722.The system ships with 1.01 BIOS and 4.01 EC FIRMWARE which supports the 720qm, 820qm and 920xm right out of the box. Assembly time can be anywhere from 5-10 minutes to considerably longer if you want the cleanest, nicest look for parts
and wires and go over everything with a fine tooth comb.

Size and weight:

The strength of the MSI 17XX chassis is the ability to use top end processors in a relatively lightweight 17" form factor. The laptop weighs approximately 7lbs in addition to a modest sized 120w Liteon PSU. You would be hard pressed to find a lighter and thinner 17" form factor laptop that can adequately handle the range of Intel power hungry, heat belching monstrosities like the 17XX series has classically tamed.


Fit and finish:

The 1727, like the 1722, has a very sturdy build. MSI has made some minor modifications with a slightly altered keyboard. The keyboard still is situated and feels like the 1722 keyboard and as such, it is still very much a love or hate it keyboard. As always, I love its placement and feel of the 17XX keyboard. To emphysize the gamer aspect of the 1727, the classic "WASD" keys are color coded differently.



Another small modification is the hard drive cover no longer sits flush but is raised ever so slightly to afford a bit more breathing room. In addition, the door itself is much sturdier than its predecessor. This is a welcomed addition, since the original door was prone to tearing and warping when removing it.


Original 1722 is to the left. New and improved 1727 is to the right.

The Liteon 120W PSU is the same unit that seems to be supplied with the bulk of MSI 15.4" and 17" laptops. In
addition, the 1727, like the 6XX series, can use both 6 (BTY-M67) and 9 (BTY-M68) cell batteries and they are interchangeable. The 9-cell protrudes from the back allowing the laptop to sit flush. I prefer a 6-cell battery for ergonomics and even less weight. We all know the battery life is dismal with these new i7 CPUs. I look at the battery as a UPS more than a viable cordless option on the go.

The original 1722 shipped with a Hitachi LG (HL) Data DVDRW drive. The 1727 ships with a Sony / Optiarc AD-7560S.

Screen:

The 1727 uses a Samsung panel (SEC4A47), which has a slightly different ID than the 1722 (SEC4447) and
is the same panel that was used in the WSXGA+ (1680x1050) version of the MSI GT725. According to notebookcheck, the panel has a phenomenal contrast ratio (700:1) but falls short everywhere else with the following ratings:

Maximum: 167.4 cd/m²
Average: 134 cd/m²
Illumination: 68 %
Black: 0.21 cd/m²
Contrast: 701:1

Personally, I find many LCD and especially LEDs painfully bright and I end up adjusting them down to the sub
200 range for day to day use. Of course with a maximum rating of 167.4 cd/m² you may face dificulties using the
1727 outdoors and in brightly lit places.

As with just about every MSI 17" WSXGA+ panel and most non-LED panels, there is mild bleed from the bottom most noticeable on dark screens but it does not traverse farther than ~15-20% at its apex. The screen is pleasing to the eye with no banding or uneven lighting. In short, it is the best average screen you will find. Keeping my streak alive with MSI laptops, this unit had zero bad pixels.

DC Jack:

The MSI 17XX series are notorious for their inherently weak DC Jack. It isn't the jack itself, but moreso the very
weak stability surrounding the jack and the 1727 carries on that tradition. The problem is so well known that companies like RKComputers offer repair services if you're uncomfortable with disassembly and soldering and the jack assembly itself is available from RKComputers and a handful of sellers on eBay. It is the one thing MSI should have seriously taken their time to shore up that surrounding connection. With that being stated, treat the power jack carefully, perhaps get a cable mount to stabilize the PSU wire and it should treat you right for the life of the laptop.

The hardware:



The system comes barebones, and the following configuration I assembled is as follows:

Intel Mobile i7-920XM Extreme Edition (OEM) 2.0ghz x 4, 2.26ghz x 2, 3.2ghz x 1, 55w, 8mb cache
Classic WSXGA+ 1680x1050 LCD
Nvidia 250M Mobile GPU
4GB Kingston HyperX CL7 DDR3 SODIMM
WD 5400rpm 120gb HD (We won't be testing HD speed today, as it scored a pitiful 5.3 in WEI in W7)
Intel 5300 Half Height (HH) WiFi Mini-PCI adapter

The full range of specifications can be found here: http://www.msiwhitebook.com/product_spec.asp?model=MS-1727-ID1

The system has a clean install of Windows 7 Ultimate with all the newest drivers and chipset drivers from Intel's
download site along with the newest video drivers directly from Nvidia as of 2/20/2010. MX-2 thermal compound was
used for above average heat transference and no curing time.

Some CPU-Z, GPU-Z system information screenshots:




Noise:

The 1727 uses the classic MSI one fan system to vent for both the GPU and CPU. The 1727 uses the exact same
fan assembly (E33-0800050-F05) as the 1722. Those who have used the 1722 know that it runs fairly quiet and only
under the absolutes of stress will the fan kick into that "special mode," where it becomes decently audible yet
still much quieter than many systems out there. Normal usage, the fan purrs away and is not intrusive at all.

Benchmarks:

The 1727 comes equipped with the PM55 chipset and the Nvidia 250M Mobile GPU. The 250M is a GDDR3 equipped
MXM3.0B card with 1GB of memory, 128-bit memory pathway and 96 shaders. On paper, it has 3x the shaders, 1.25x the memory frequency and 40nm fab versus 65nm versus the 9600M GT. Is is a very worthy, low powered upgrade versus the 1722 in every way, shape and form.

Please note that the 250M comes underclocked versus the reference 250M numbers (500 / 1250 /1600 vs 450 /1080 / 790).

For those who still rely on 3Dmark06:



3Dmark06 has been CPU bound for some time now. If you do use it as a performance gauge, focus in on the SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores.

Here is Futuremark Vantage:



As expected, the 250M is a nice upgrade over the 9600M in the 1722 (which it is logically succeeding). In regards to its placement in the MSI lineup, the 1727 is a solid winner and provides ~86% increase in GPU performance of the 9600M GT (2978 vs. 1602) while only experiencing a ~5w (~22%) increase in power consumption (23w vs. 28w).

You can find more game specific benchmarks here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=435164

Power consumption and heat:

All measurements were with a Kill-A-Watt wall adapter to get true readings. The numbers you may find
a bit shocking.

Measured at a dos prompt (without any software induced clock/thermal management), the 1727 draws 64w
doing nothing.

Idle @ the W7 desktop (with software management engaged), the 1727 draws 35w



Prime 95 8-core max heat

The power consumption with a full load of Prime95 max heat and power only (no GPU) draws ~109 watts.
The CPU gets a little toasty and on occassion would spike to 65w for a brief second (yes, 65w), but
for 99% of the run, stayed at 55w. Under sustained load, the CPU never exceeded 88c which is excellent.
In idle / low usage mode, it reduces down to a rather crisp and cool 18w and idles around 44c.


Furmark only torture test

The power consumption with just the GPU taking the brunt of the Furmark torture test maxes out at 79w. The GPU
never exceeds 74c which is a testament to the 28w consumption levels of the 250M and adequate cooling of the 1727.




Prime95 8-Core max heat AND Furmark torture

This is where power consumption levels and heat cause a bit of alarm. Stressing both the CPU and GPU, the power consumption shot up
to a jaw dropping 147w. Remember, the Liteon PSU adapter is only rated at 120w. After 5 minutes of stress testing, the
adapter was hotter than I have ever felt a laptop PSU. It was very uncomfortable to the touch.

More importantly, there are no BIOS level throttle mechanisms in the 1727 like the problem many Dell users are experiencing.
That is the good news. The bad news is heat induced
throttling kicked in when the cores hit 94-95. In addition, THRM hit a sizzling 97. This was within 2 minutes of stress testing.
Once the temps were that high, throttling was cyclical and predictable.

As is, the cooling system of the 1727 is incapable of
adequately cooling the 920XM under sustained CPU/GPU load.

I dug out my trusty Targus 180w Universal adapter (which is also made by Liteon) to make sure that 149w was the actual ceiling andnot the 120w adapter reaching its limits. Alternatively, I could have waited to see if the PSU failed, system shut down due to insufficient power draw or a combination of both. The 180w adapter confirmed that 147w was indeed the upper limit with the system totally
being stressed with screen brightness to medium. The 180w adapter, even after 10 minutes of stress testing, was crisp and cool to the touch. I suspect if the 120W adapter was able to keep it together even in the face of a 149w onslaught, the 180w adapter could probably
take a 200w+ hit and keep on trucking. It is, as expected, bigger than the 120w adapter.



The overall temps and 120w PSU temps were very scary indeed.

Modifications and heat results:

I took the time to track down an extra underside component cover for some cooling modifications and I added some much needed copper heatsinks to the internal heatsinks of the 1727. I was unable to attach any heatsinks properly at this time to the CPU heatsink since
it is an uneven surface (due to the locking clamps). I may add some custom cut blocks when I get a chance.

First, I modded the inside of the laptop itself by adding heatsinks to the GPU Heatsink and bridge. The 250M runs cool enough as is, but the idea was that any heat that could be dissapated at the point of contact versus ferried and vented by the fan would help the CPU if even a little
bit.



Secondly, I completely opened up the fan intake on the backup cover for optimal air flow. I then salvaged a 80mm fan guard from an older OCZ PSU for proper finger protection and to use the guard to stabilize the upper left quadrant of the back cover.



With the modifications done and Targus 180w fully in place, I reran all the previous heat inducing tests.



With the fan experiencing optimal air flow, the temps drop a nice ~4c. The CPU was already staying under 90c under Prime95 only load, so this is just
icing on the cake.



There were no changes in the max temp of the GPU (74c) when under load before and after the modifications. On its own, the cooling is more than up to the task to keep the 250m running nice. The fan never kicks into overdrive at anytime during GPU only torture testing.



Now this is where the backplate mod and the heatsinks pay dividends. The GPU experiences a reduction from 76 -> 70 mainly due to the fan speed increasing to compensate for the CPU heat and the GPU reaping the benefits versus previously where the cooling system wasn't able to keep up with the CPU needs and the GPU temps rose to 76c. Now, everything is running much cooler and more importantly ZERO HEAT INDUCED THROTTLING ISSUES with the 920xm.

The CPU never exceeded 90c even under the heaviest of loads in conjunction with Furmark, and THRM topped out at 92 versus 97 previously. I expect even more reductions when I'm able to augment the existing CPU heatsink with some proper heatsinks and maybe expand the passive cooling airflow with some strategically placed air holes. The most important thing was to allow the system to run, full throttle with zero heat or power draw induced throttling.


Summary:


For fans of thinner, lighter, CPU rich, powerful 17" notebooks, the 1727 is a excellent choice. It provides the ability to use even the most power hungry of extreme
CPUs. For fans of the traditional screen aspects, the 1680x1050 resolution is a welcome sight. The 250M GPU is a worthy upgrade over the 9600M GT and at 1680x1050 provides plenty of horsepower for gaming. The highly customizable 1727 really allows you to build (or have it built and tested) your way in every aspect. An LED LCD option would have been nice and they do need to address the inherent weakness in the DC power jack.

Let me stress (no pun intended) that the Furmark + Prime95 torture test is not an everyday situation and is a very unrealistic end user day to day usage scenario.
Point is you could probably use a 920xm as is and be fine and not even notice any problems. Using a 720qm and 820qm with their 45w designs and they will run even cooler as is (~10%) further alienating the max stress situation. Drop in an i5/i3 @ 35w or less and it becomes a non issue most likely even under max stress.

With that being said, the consumption levels are of some concern. Even gaming in World of Warcraft routinely brought my consumption levels up to that dreaded
145w level and the PSU was very hot. If you are uncomfortable with your PSU running that hot or that much over spec, you may wish to track down a Targus/Liteon universal 180w adapter.

Let me also address the upcoming MSI GX740 which includes the ATI 5870 which following with normal MSI procedures most likely will be based off the 1727 (like the GX720/GT725 was based off the 1722-ID2). The GPU has a rated consumption level of 50w (+22w versus the 250M in the 1727). I am loathe to imagine the heating and consumption nightmare that it may be if it ships with only 120w PSU and/or an end user decides they want to run a quad core where you are looking at potential consumption levels of ~162-172w+ nevermind the increased heat from the GPU. I do hope that MSI takes this into consideration and augments the back cover to allow better airflow, shores up the heatsinks inside, and provides at least a 150w-180w PSU. Hopefully the GX740 will be a new design or major overhaul as the GX640 appears to be.

 

MSI 1727 Q&A / FAQ:

Q: I need the newest drivers, Bios or Firmware! Help!
A: Check out the official thread here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=435164

Q: Does the 1727 support Windows XP?
A: Yes. Installation guide is included with this FAQ. I've installed and verified that XP SP3 works.

Q: Hey, thanks for the XP guide, but my system refuses to shut down. It just hangs on a blank screen!
A: Make sure your webcam is off (Webcam button) before shutdown.

Q: Does the 1727 support Vista?
A: Yes, but if you're going to run Vista, run Windows 7.

Q: My Wifi isn't working!
A: Your WiFi button is located underneath the power button

Q: My Bluetooth isn't working!
A: Your WiFi button also operates your Bluetooth. Push it two more times

Q: Does the 1727 support all i7 mobile quad cores?
A: Yes

Q: Does the 1727 support both 2x2 and 3x3 WiFi adapters?
A: Yes

Q: Does the 1727 have an advanced BIOS menu like the 1722 w/ alt+ins
A: No

Q: Does the 1727 support Solid State Disks (SSD)?
A: Yes

Q: Does the 1727 support WiMax?
A: Yes

Q: Does the 1727 support both half height and full height mini-PCI cards?
A: Yes

Q: I bought a WiFi card from ebay and it won't install properly! I get a yellow exclaimation mark over it!
A: You most likely bought a WiFi card that is made specifically for HP and IBM machines.

Q: Can I upgrade the screen to WUXGA (1920x1200)?
A: Yes, but you will need to install the panel yourself. They are available on eBay

Q: Are the 1722 and 1727 GPUs interchangable?
A: No, the 1722 uses the older MXM 2.1 standard, while the 1727 uses the newer MXM 3.0b standard

Q: Can I use the memory in my 1722 / GX720 / GT725 in my 1727/GT740?
A: No, the older models use DDR2. The 1727/GT740 uses DDR3

Q: So what exactly can I use from my old 1722?
A: Optical drive, LCD, battery, WiFi, back cover, HD cover, screen bezel and more.

Q: Can I use the GT740 BIOS updates on my 1727?
A: Yes

Q: How about the Firmware?
A: It is advisable to use the 1727 Firmware update due to different button layouts

Q: Does the 1727 have any GPU restrictions?
A: No, but the video card might. You also need to acquire a proper Heatsink and make sure it is MXM3.0b

Q: My system keeps losing its power connection when my cable moves around and/or won't charge up at all!
A: This is a chronic problem with the 1722/1727 GX720/GT725/GT740 chassis and requires repair

Q: Where can I get a 180w Targus adapter?
A: Here is the official Targus homepage: http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.aspx?sku=APA05US
Do a goggle search for Part # APA-05US or APA05US. They can be found for ~$50.00.

Q: My 1727/GT740 came with a 9-cell battery. Can I use the 6-cell from the 1722 instead?
A: Yes, search for part # BTY-M67. If you are looking for the 9-cell, part # BTY-M68

Q: Can I upgrade my DVDRW drive to a Blu-Ray Drive?
A: Yes. Just about any slimline internal Blu-Ray drive will work from HL, Sony/Optiarc.
You will need to remove the custom drive faceplate from your current drive and install it on your new drive


Q: Where can I download Furmark?
A: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Q: Where can I download Prime95?
A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95

Q: Where can I download HWMonitor?
A: http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php

Q: Where can I download CPU-Z?
A: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Q: Where can I download GPU-Z?
A: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/


Installing Windows XP SP3

Installing Windows XP SP3 32-bit on the 1727

1. Go into BIOS and switch to IDE Mode. It's just easier than dealing with AHCI, but feel free to slipstream or disk update if you insist.

2. Install Windows XP SP3 normally

Windows will install to the point of reaching the desktop

3. Download the Windows XP Mobile PM55 Chipset Drivers here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18494&ProdId=3172&lang=eng

You do not need the IMSM or IATA Intel drivers as they are not supported in XP in addition to the system only having one HD and lacking RAID support.

4. Download the latest Nvidia video drivers and INF file from laptopvideo2go here: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/xp/

5. Many of the drivers noted as, "Windows 7" on MSI's 1727 driver page are universal (XP, Vista, 7).

MSI 1727 Drivers page: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1902

The following drivers are XP compatible:

- JMicron Cardreader Driver (Win7 32/64)
- GT640/740 1394 Driver
- Agere Modem Driver (Win7 32/64)
- MS-3801 Bluetooth Driver (Win7 32/64)

6. Download the audio drivers (High Definition Audio Codecs (Software) here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/
The audio drivers on the GT740 page are slightly older and while they do work, they cause audio distortions. The newest drivers from the realtek page fixes the problem for XP users.

7. Download Intel XP 32-bit WiFi drivers here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18404&ProdId=3062&lang=eng

8. Let Windows update work its magic (which is extensive). Windows Update will provide drivers for the HD Audio devices and Ethernet.

9. The ENE CIR drivers (2.5.0.1) located in the MSI GX620 section are compatible with the 1727

Download CIR Driver here: http://download2.msi.com/files/downloads/dvr_exe/cir_all_gx620_nb.zip

10. Do a final Windows update

11. XP has native touchpad and Webcam drivers (turn your webcam on via the webcam button to install the native drivers)

12. Welcome to Windows XP on the 1727. Your device manager should be devoid of any unknown devices.

 

So is the northbridge on die or is that seperate, i can see cooling on what "Once" was a southbridge,

Thats getting to a fairly hot stage, MSI may need to start redesigning!

Also its the GX740 with radeon i believe, the GT740 is basically this model with the red,

I'm enjoying the cooling modification,

Great job elec, thanks for the in depth review .

 

Yes the NB should be on the CPU chip.

 

interesting your cpu and gpu temps are completely opposite of a lot of other reviews.

 

Yes to the Northbridge.

And looking at the GX740, hopefully MSI is doing a complete overhaul similar to what the GX640 looks like and beefs up the cooling / air flow / PSU.

 

Did they run a 920xm?

In addition, I didn't elevate or use a notebook cooler which to me defeats the purpose of the internal cooling. I used a flat, level table for all tests.

I would expect a 720/820 to run ~10% cooler (if not more) and fall within spec.

 

>.> they where not running a 920xm, but they where reporting the gpu temps into the 90c range and the cpu's where in the 70c range.

 

I did remove the thermal tape gunk from the 250M and applied MX-2.

I can see temps with a 720/820 in the 70's under isolated load versus the 920xm in a Prime95 torture test. The 920xm didn't go over 88c when being pushed to the wall on its own and it never throttled with the stock cooling on a flat surface with no notebook cooler (again, a testament to the slick design of the 1722 chassis). I would be interested to see a combination test with Furmark to put both the GPU/CPU under heavy load and see how the 720/820 fair.

 

I'd like that too to be honest, i see a 2C increase on the GPU when i run tests like that on my machine, running an OCCT power supply test would be a perfect test,

 

Mmm, serial numbers.

 

lol, all I see are part numbers. Serial # is under the battery (runs to make sure that is still the designated MSI location).

Another interesting thing is in Dalaran in WoW (example of a player congested region which taxes the CPU). The temps of the 920xm stayed under 80c (with mods), but the CPU hit 65w and stayed there (for those who need further proof WoW is very CPU dependent). As soon as I left the congested region, it settled down to 55w and below.

 

Electrosoft

I see you have this laptop on Ebay. If it had an 820 or 920 I would consider it. Is there some things about it you don’t like?

I do have some questions that maybe you can answer.

1. What is the grill above the keyboard made of?

2. Can you confirm the bios does not allow you to take advantage of the faster timings of the Kingston hyper X Ram that you have installed?

3. Does it have problems with syncing of an Ipod touch or Iphone?

4. Is the built in web cam any good?

5. Do you think the lid cracking issue is okay on this version.

6. Is the touch pad the same that people complain about paint wear.

Thanks for any help.

 

Right now, I'm selling this one with a 720QM because I want to hold onto my last OEM 920XM. I wish I had a few 820QMs, but they are near impossible to track down. I had two but sold one locally. I have a Dell 1747 B+RG coming in I want to test it in along with some cooling mods which is why I stepped down the original config (and price) accordingly.

I really have no complaints with the 1727. Like the 1722, I love the form factor, especially the light weight 17" chassis which is very sturdy and the performance is nice along with decent cooling (especially after enhancing the cooling system). Everything I loved about the 1722 is present in the 1727 along with a much better GPU, full Quad core support and the center spaced keyboard which rocks. I just can't logically afford to own 2-3 laptops at a time, so at any given time one or two have to go. If I could keep the 1727 AND the 1747 I would. :-D.

The grill is a soft mesh covering moreso for looks than anything. It masks the left and right speakers.

The HyperX I have is SPD CL7 not the XMP garbage so there is no need to adjust timings and/or load profiles. Avoid the XMP at all costs.

You know, I have no idea about the Ipod/Iphone issue. I always sync with my desktop i7.

The webcam is par for the course. It is just as good as the webcams in just about every laptop I've used/tested/owned. I've yet to use a laptop with a webcam that approaches the level of external USB cams yet.

I'm not sure, but the plastic used in the 1727 is definitely a smidge better than the 1722 IMHO. Everything is beefed up a bit. I still wouldn't get slap happy with the DC Jack, though.

I'm not sure about the touchpad issue. My daughter used a 1722-ID1 for almost a year daily and abused the snot out of it and the trackpad was never worn down or suffered paint wear nor the palm rests. In addition, the bezel never cracked and it took a typical teenager pounding. She did routinely kick, yank, pull and step on the power cord which eventually led to the DC Jack going south. But outside of that, she abused the crap out of her poor 1722-ID1 and it took it on the chin nicely. In addition, the 1722's I used and the few friends who are still using them have never encountered the bezel/touchpad issues. Outside of classic shiny keys/pad which happens with normal use, everything looks fine.

I'm not selling it with the modified underside cover, but if someone wants that one instead, that can be arranged.

 

Haha, agreed, the 1722 chasis is great (I've only dropped it two, well once i slipped on ice and the machine hit the ground first and second my stupid friend let it slip out the laptop bag....LOL)

All working, no frame damage, only VGA seems to not be fully functioning (Shock probably snapped some of the solder connecting it to the mobo.)

Meeeeee big MSI fan...!

 

Electrosoft,

Thanks for the response on my questions. I really appreciate that.

I still want clarification on the ram. I know the HyperX is CL7, but I saw a post in the 1727 owners lounge post 142 by RePaRaQu that shows CPU-Z screen shot that has the Memory tab timings as CL9, and SPD tab of CL7. so is CPU-Z misreading the actual timings or is the 1727 forcing CL9 regardless of the SPD. Could that be an issue with the fact he has XMP version.?

The bottom line is if I am going to get the non XMP HyperX with CL7 will it use those timings. With aggressive timings like that , you should see a couple % improvement in memory intensive benchmarks at the least.


Thanks again.

 

Yes, I just checked his pics and he is using the XMP memory which:

A> Is garbage without profile control
B> Defaults to CL9 @ 1333 and requires an XMP profile to hit CL7

My HyperX memory is SPD CL7 and boots and works as such.

This is what you want:

1066 memory @ CL5 (If timings are your priority): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104165&cm_re=hyperx-_-20-104-165-_-Product

1333 @ CL7 (If bandwidth is your priority): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104158&cm_re=hyperx-_-20-104-158-_-Product

The others are XMP purgatory and you don't want that.

Note: The 1066 memory has been reported to run a bit warmer than the 1333, but the 1727 has passive cooling vents for the memory (slick), so it is really a non issue.

 

using the wrong memory for the MS-1727 ID1
What's it then do i need to get some new mem modules

Well it's just what i received for the review

 

Yeah, just pick either of the CL5/CL7 modules I linked. Both are SPD with the proper timings versus the XMP Profile modules and will post with the proper timings.

 

Could you throw in a link of where you found that on ebay ? Only thing I've found so far is this.

Edit : or the keywords you type in order to find it on ebey would work fine as well

 

@ Danteleet
This is one that you can upgrade with. I prefer matte screens that's why I lined that type. If you prefer glossy ones, there is exactly the same model, but the last 4 letters are different [(TL)(A3)]. Just be careful not to take one with LED backlight, because they are not compatible with this model.
You can read here also. There is useful info on how to replace your screen. It's for MS-1722, but the chasis is the same as yours. Good Luck!

 

Thanks a lot. The listing has ended so I can't see it, but I can find more I guess, typing this. How did you know this was the model I need ?

I think I prefer matte as well

So anyways, any "LP171WU1" will do ? My current panel is : Samsung 170BT08-G01

I read that thread already, pretty informative indeed, but there was nothing about identifying what model you need, etc.

EDIT : Also, is there a way to see exact specifications like... luminosity, etc