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    MSI 1722 wont boot up

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by krdvg, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. krdvg

    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought my 1722 ID2 barebones system last year in Feb and it had been running solid till a couple of days ago. My config is the standard that comes with the 1722 plus T9400 CPU, 4gb ocz ram, 320gb wd hdd and Intel 5300 wifi card. OS: Win7 x64.

    I started having issues a couple of days ago, laptop would just hang with the screen staying paused, i.e the same stuck display if I was playing a game or a youtube vid, the cursor could not be moved nor anything typed. I would just assumed I am having heating issues as the fan would be hi speed. I would shut down and let it stand for some time and then start again.

    Well, today I was playing SC2 and again the same thing. But this time, when I restarted, nothing :( Just a blank display, I think I can sense the HDD spinning. The DVD slot works, it pops in and out. But I dont even get to the MSI logo with the options to press DEL for setup and stuff. I did not have the latest nvidia drivers which fries cards, I was using the standard 186.81 whql.

    I have tried the usual stuff, removing battery and ac cord and letting it stand for some time and trying again, no go.

    I tried removing RAM sticks and checking with single sticks, no go.

    I dont know whats the problem, nothing seems to be abnormally hot.

    One time I did manage to get the MSI logo and went to bios, but soon it hung up and I had to restart.

    Any replies appreciated, thanks!

    Different combinations of lights light up: sometimes power lights up and num lock and scroll lock.
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    can you try booting without a HDD and without a GPU?
     
  3. krdvg

    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    What should be the expected response? Not sure I can remove the gpu. Definitely can try without HDD.
     
  4. Genna

    Genna Notebook Evangelist

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    Well this is not good to hear. I'm not sure that booting without HDD would do anything. So you can try the most common things like reseating the CPU, boot with one memory stick at a time, changing the slots. I don't want to be bad prophesy man, but it seem to me like you have faulty CPU or GPU. Have you overclocked the GPU?
     
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    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, I have not overclocked the CPU or the GPU, nothing. And I always monitor my temps and nothing seemed out of ordinary ever :( Only thing was it kept 'hanging'

    I tried the ram exchange slots and thing, same thing.

    Laptop starts, I cant tell if the screen led glows or not, but the leds on the front glow, the power glows, then the hdd light blinks for like a sec, and then just the num lock and scroll lock and power light keep glowing. Nothing else.
     
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    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    If the bios is corrupted, is there any solution?
     
  7. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, maybe like this:
    http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=119375.0

    There must be some way for you to force the bios flash.

    If you can turn it on without a GPU inside, then hear windows sounds then it must be that the GPU is faulty.

    Re-seating stuff is a good idea, also leave the CMOS battery out for a while and try turning it on again.
     
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    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for all the replies guys.

    I dont know how the removal of gpu will boot the system.

    Thing is I am looking for some user manual which has troubleshooting information about the lights, I am sure that the leds that are glowing are indicating something, like bad ram or gpu, and I'd like to know that :( Hopefully if I find out whats bad I can replace it. I certainly hope its not a fried motherboard though, then I have to chuck the whole thing as everything except for ram, hdd is outta warranty :(
     
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    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I tried reseating the CPU and also resetting the bios by removing the CMOS battery. Still nothing. The laptop only powers up and shows the power light, not even the numlock and scroll lock lights power up :(

    I will get access to another laptop today hopefully and see what components actually work.
     
  11. krdvg

    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, the hard drive is working. Tested that. Any suggestions how to test RAM and CPU without actually putting it another computer?

    Thanks!
     
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    All indications point to your GPU. The lockups with graphically intense endeavors and the final lack of an on screen display (but all other indicators showing), really points to the GPU which can and do fail even with temps being pretty nominal.

    I would do the basic remove the GPU, clean it up, new compound and reseat it and see if that works (I'm moreso checking for contact first with the MXM slot then poor thermal contact.)

    The fact you know the HD works and you tested each memory stick individually in each individual slots really rules out the memory as the odds of both slots and both sticks going back is close to zero.

    You also checked the CPU, but like I said, the CPU is rarely the culprit with modern CPUs.

    I had a bad 9600M GT card and it did pretty much what you are experiencing now in a 1722 last year.

    I'd focus on the GPU.
     
  14. krdvg

    krdvg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Electro, you the man. Haha.

    When my friend got back home, I tested each component, ram and cpu in his laptop and they were fine. The GPU was the culprit. I had never removed it before, I took it off, cleaned it a bit and after reseting the bios inserted it again, viola, its booting, and I am typing on my precious, haha.

    Thanks, past 24hrs have been so f'ed up.

    So, that brings me to my question, what should I do so that same problems dont repeat again? Should I buy a new GPU or look for some other chip altogether?

    Thanks again.