MSI 16L13/Eurocom Tornado F5 with AMD Ryzen R7 8-core CPU?

The 15" 16L13 and the unknown 17" are MSI, but Eurocom is speaking of their entire inventory AFAIK, if there were a Z370 laptop from another maker I think @Eurocom Support would say something... don't you think?

 

Perhaps, but the meat of their post is about the tornado. It's also entirely possible they aren't as looped in with clevo as they are msi. Clevo could be doing their own thing, only let eurocom know closer to release. As I was typing this up found this on their twitter:

"Coffee Lake models are coming in late November. All of Sky X series are being updated to CFL with Z370 chipset and 8th gen CPUs"



I'd also like to know more information on how going from a new chipset from intel to intel is any different than going from intel to amd. A new board has to be created in both situations. I'm not sure how the cores have anything to do with it.

At the end of the day it isn't really eurocoms call, sure they can ask/push for it... but... they don't make the machines

 

No guarantee that Clevo will stress wih Z370 this year, as Volta ain't coming now

 

Were they (who?) specific about which models are going to z370? I don't see anything mentioning the z370...
https://twitter.com/EurocomTech

I googled your quote but no hits from twitter, just a 3rd party site, and that's gone. Maybe they deleted the tweet? Do you have a link to that original text you quoted?

The vendors do feedback to the makers what people want, so it's better to feed them all the features we desire than to sit around wishing it comes true

 

They being Eurocom, sorry haha

The sky x series are their clevo books. So I imagine clevo is bringing z370 to their notebooks.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EurocomTech/status/908918130671529986

Let's see if that works.

 

Thanks for the link, but I see what you mean, that makes it *less* clear doesn't it.

They don't actually say no Z370 models, even though they said that here, at least for the F5/"F7", they are waiting till Z390 and 2H18, which is enough of an answer for this thread.

@Eurocom Support which of your other products are getting CFL1 6c/12t CPU(s), what chipset will they have, and about when are they arriving?

 

Yes, I think that could be a good idea too

 

both MSI, Eurocom and Clevo has access to this directly from intel.
as for skipping z370, again msi and clevo manufactuer laptop so MSI would probably have to let eurocom know or eurocom simply asked via email.

looks like 8c mainstream might be the way to go, volta GPU 8 core intel yeah?
i gotta buy though waited long enough, 6core first then 8 cores

woot so we are still getting z370 6c CFL laptop, then 8c mainstream either 14nm++ or 10nm+. if the CPU heatsink of 6c CFL laptop is good and can take overclock to very high i'll be getting that, then i'll wait and see how 8 core goes.

 

Ryzen and Vega will get 12 nm versions in 2018
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-and-Vega-will-get-12-nm-versions-in-2018.249690.0.html

 

So just to be clear, CFL1 boards (370) will not support CFL2 CPUs?

 

Ryzen 2 supported on AM4 confirms AMD product manager

https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/112796-ryzen-2-supported-am4-confirms-amd-product-manager/

 

Doubtful that they won't work. Looking at Intels latest leaked road map from a couple days ago, it seems there MAY be a z390 chipset and some new 6 core, 4 core and 2 core CPUs. However it's also possible they are simply talking about the Non Z chipset that has yet to be released and the unreleased T version CPUs.

 

AMD Ryzen 2 Set For March 2018 Launch On 12nm – To Support Higher Core & Memory Clock Speeds
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-2-set-march-2018-launch-12nm-support-higher-core-memory-clock-speeds/

 

Fake AMD Ryzen 2800X 12 Core 5.1GHz Slide Sends Media Into Frenzy
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-387#post-10645820

 

Just a clarification.

It is Ryzen 2nd iteration, not Ryzen 2, it will most likely be similar to optimizing the process of the same architecture and silicon. Think AMD RX 480 --> RX 580, maybe slightly better - CPU iterations are not directly comparable to GPU iteration, but you get the idea.

 

So this would be the referred "Ryzen+" of sorts? Like a refined version of original Ryzen as you say.

 

Yes. As far as I understand. Don't quote me on this. It is far too stupid and near impossible to release an updated Ryzen 2 CPU within 1 year.

Look at their initial roadmap.



At the end of 2017/Q1 2018 14nm + will arrive, Ryzen iteration 2.

Somewhere near Q2-4 2018/Q1 2019 Ryzen 2 will arrive, and Q? 2019 is for Ryzen 3, which will be a Ryzen 2.5 (like iteration 2).

Again, just my assumptions and interpretation, so lets wait and see.

 

Just go and grab an Asus rog 702 zc that is a monster multithreading system.

Even i9 6core 45w will be slower in multithreading performance and it will cost the double.

 

That machine is having some pretty significant teething problems. Read the posts by Deks in this thread.

 

What do you mean with teething problems ?

I already using it in havy workloads and works like a champion.

No heating problems with 100% load on cpu and GPU at the same time while rendering on 3d app. My other asus laptop with i7/1060 has the half speed and produces more heat and noise.

Even my clevo based laptop that has double price and.size has the half performance and produces more noise and heat.

The price super cheap for a true desktop on the go.

 

But if you look (and hope) at intel node 14 vs 14+ of skylake vs kabylake, there is a minimum clock uppered limit at same wattage of skylake series from 200mhz to 300Mhz, depending also on silicon lottery and cooling.
So if now ryzen top at 3.9/4.2Ghz with xfr, expecting 200/400Mhz more is good, looking at actual ipc maybe there will be a 5%/10% (linear) gain only by uppering clock(thanks to an affinated process node).

 

AMD's 7 nm Zen 2 and EPYC Rome CPUs coming in late 2018
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s-7-nm-Zen-2-and-EPYC-Rome-CPUs-coming-in-late-2018.281504.0.html