MSI 16L13/Eurocom Tornado F5 with AMD Ryzen R7 8-core CPU?

Is MSI Intel exclusive? do you know if msi could make also a version of MSI 16L13 with a cpu 8-core AMD Ryzen R7? this new desktop cpu with a tdp of 65w could be a great choise for a workstation imho!

 

Keep an eye out for that machine and the Clevos. Between all of them it seems likely that at least something will support Ryzen's 8 cores.

It's a little hard to guess because AMD has been out of the high end game for so long.

 

there is a topic about AMD Ryzen R7 on clevo
do you think that msi could make a new mobo with an AM4 socket for the tornado?

 

We are working on next generation Tornado F5 and F7 models so everything is on the table including AMD Ryzen. We have a lot of expertise in AMD technologies - we were the first in the history of laptops to use socket b ased AMD CPUs and AMD GPUs. So we may do it again.

 

Please make it!!
i think that a tornado 15"/17" with an 8-core amd ryzen desktop cpu could be an excellent workstation for people that search a laptop with a lot of computational power for fem/cfd studies as an egineer or an architect.

 

I for one would be all over a 17" Tornado based on Ryzen. Wow, great news.

 

hello portable render beast!

 

Good news. I'll be lined up for a ryzen/vega tornado when it touches down.

 

any idea how long it'll take to have one on the market ?

 

Fixed that for ya!

i'm even more down if prema is able to work on a modded BIOS.

 

may be 4 versions?
-15" with amd mobo with cpu amd ryzen 8-core+ gpu mxm amd vega
-17" with amd mobo with cpu amd ryzen 8-core+ gpu mxm amd vega
-15" with intel mobo with cpu intel coffe lake 6-core+ gpu mxm nvidia pascal
-17" with intel mobo with cpu intel coffe lake 6-core+ gpu mxm nvidia pascal

 

Why do you insist on AMD/AMD combos? It is mxm, so AMD/nVidia is possible. And why not? I want Ryzen with the fastest GPU at that point of time.

 

Vega 10 is better than gtx 1080 as of now

 

Only if they don't use mxm cards
If not then amd/nvidia ftw

 

imho a laptop with amd cpu/gpu could be a big business for amd and in that case amd could give more support to odms as msi or clevo. i'm reading in this forum that an odm needs a great support by amd for integrate ryzen in a mobo for a laptop so a complete amd laptop could be a way to have that support
after that may be that clevo could build a p775 with ryzen and nvidia gpu

 

And if Vega can not compete, but Ryzen can (or vice versa) an AMD/nVidia (or Intel/AMD) combo would even bigger business for AMD than only the AMD/AMD combo.

 

I'm with you. I wonder this very thing for a while now. I mean I would personally go AMD + AMD, but quite a few people would prefer the CPU or GPU to be different. It's great to have choices and for the first time in quite a while there's solid competition.

 

Personally I would buy either setup, as having a true 8 core 16 thread desktop cpu in a laptop would make me drool like a fool.

 

how is vega 10 better? there are no real announcements or benchs. also i doubt if amd can beat 1080ti, the card is much cheaper and a big improvement.

 

I said:

GTX 1080​

There would be minimum of 10%(or even maximum) performance upgrade than 1080
If you don't wanna believe just wait and watch.

 

but there are no announcement whether amd will do high-end mobile GPUs and its pointless to consider vega 10 desktop performance here since we talking about laptops. and MSI might also do 1080ti since the tdp isnt much higher thn a 1080gtx.

 

All we can do now is wait so...

 

Still +10% more to be cooled

 

Um... but desktop GPUs have been in laptops for over a year now.

Edit:
To clarify, not sure why we would throw out Vega 10s desktop performance. I mean we don't really know what it is yet, but... not sure why it should be thrown out. Especially if it's competitively priced like Ryzen.

 

I hope till June to see a desktop ryzen cpu inside your laptops.

Other wise the only alternative solution that I found is an industrial portable 17.3" Screen computer chassis like this
http://www.trans2000.com/product/spark-s5/ with a ryzen setup.

 

Any news about the ryzen desktop chip in your laptop ?

 

However, this may mean their suppliers need to see strong demand before committing capital and personnel to a new project.

 

1st of April today... It's a super lie !!! Dual ryzen ha ha ha ha and quad GPU ha ha ha ha !!!

If someone want an 8 core beast in portable factor I found those portable cases. I am tired to wait every laptop maker company to deside or wait from Clevo for a new laptop chassis and if they will support ryzen or whatever new technology come to market. In everyday scenario is the same thing to have a 6kgr laptop +1kgr powerbrick. It's almost the same weight as a portable lunchbox case.

 

The worst part is, that it looks cool lol

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-1700X-1800X-Review.208742.0.html

 

what do you think about this? april fools

some review of ryzen cpu
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,5009.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review,4987.html

 

They do not know anything yet. I do not think Clevo will make a barebone soon.

Only a lunchbox transportable computer chassis like trans2000.com is the only real solution.

 

MSI hasn't been in Intel exclusive in the past. They used AMD chips with the GX series. Probably haven't for awhile now that AMD chips haven't been all that competitive.

If Ryzen works well in its mobile form, I think MSI would sell them. They're out to make a buck and if that's where money's at ...

 

You're right. I don't think I've seen anything that MSI has been exclusive for the last couple of years. They just haven't offered AMD because of a lack of new processors and graphics, they just slowly came out of the market over time. I'd hope they would return to offer new models if/when AMD makes them available.

 

Me too. I love seeing a competitive AMD - it's good for the market and us when they duke it out. Ryzen hasn't been out long and Intel's already starting to get off its butt.

It's been sad not seeing much out of them lately - except for the budget sector.

 

AMD Ryzen R7 8-core will suck power as a power Hog. The Cooling used in the machine must be fixed if 8 core shall be used in this machine See AMD Ryzen R7 8-core in different Aida64 loads

 

Why the desktop i7 cpu versions that are installed in Clevo barebones they are not sucking power like a hungry Vampire ?

MSI will not use a desktop CPU to a laptop for mass production. This is the only problem why MSI will not have fast ryzen cpus in their laptops soon. Maybe after June we will see something.

 

They do, they really do...

 

COMPUTEX 2017 | First Ryzen laptop is Asus's ROG Strix G702ZC
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-Ryzen-laptop-is-Asus-s-ROG-Strix-G702ZC.224692.0.html

Asus has unveiled the world's first Ryzen-powered notebook, the ROG Strix G702ZC. The laptop is 17.3-inches, supports FreeSync 2.0, and is powered by a Ryzen 7 1700 8-core CPU and a Radeon RX580 GPU.


so it is possible
Wake up MSI/Eurocom!!!!

 

MSI and Clevo are most likely still on the design table as of now.

 

Are you guys planning on transitioning to a odm seller to making your own design barebone laptops? I wish your company all the success

 

If they put in an 1800x or i7 7820x... I'd snatch it up, no matter what GPU is thrown in. The i7 seems unlikely... considering it has a TDP of 140 W or something right?

I find Asus computers to be aesthetically unpleasing to me.. will have to pass up on that one... even if the price is right.

 

it sounds rather unrealistic honestly. different mobos have to be designed including cooling, firmware, bios, driver etc etc its rather a lot of work.

financially speaking, it cost less to make 1000 AMD laptops or 1000 intel based laptops than to make 500 of AMD + 500 of intel, unless they can somehow keep chassis, heatsink everything the same.

when eurocom made AMD based laptop i still have one i bought used it was clevo 19/20 inch i think but that generation was ONLY AMD, not both intel AND AMD.

 

Yet they're doing the same thing for the coffee lake refresh in 2018.

First half is 6C on the same board I believe, the second set later on will be a new board.

The problem is getting someone to make those boards, as I think Eurocom doesn't actually do that... they just influence/ask for etc.

Anywho, it would be interesting if they were able to get a Ryzen socket in the Tornado... as the next few AMD processors will be on the AM4 or w/e. Whether they are marked improvements over the current lineup, is anyone's guess.

 

@Eurocom Support - if you are skipping the Z370, and won't come out with a new Intel motherboard till 2H18 using the Z390, about a year away, wouldn't this be an excellent time to add an AMD desktop CPU motherboard / laptop to your offerings?

 

RIP - misinformation

 

Sorry, @Eurocom Support were clear about skipping the Z370 in their post here on NBR:

So there is plenty of time over the next year to deliver a killer AMD Ryzen 7 desktop CPU laptop - with AMD RX 56 Vega too

 

most of the chassis would keep the same, less spending, almost a year later for 6c or 8c. where as AMD/INTEL in same year, different design. clearly much more costly than going from 4c to 6c.

@hmscott well they say skip z370 but i took that intention as to skip z370 only on tornado F5->F7. as we know eurocom is a reseller not a laptop manufacturer so ultimately if clevo tries to make a z370 laptop it will still be available to the market, though eurocom may or may not sell them if thats what they meant by skipping z370.

 

Oh haha, awesome. Thanks, and I definitely agree

 

The tornado is a MSI machine. So I imagine eurocom is getting this information from MSI.