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    MSI 1656 Heat Issue?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Brandonw88, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, I just bought a MSI 1656 from xotic pc and I love it. BUT, I have a question and I'm a little worried.
    I have the i7 820QM processor, it idles around 48 Celsius but when I am rendering and HD video in sony vegas, the temps get as high as 97 Celsius. to me this seems way to hot, Is this bad?

    I turned off the turbo feature to see what that would do.
    the temperatures stayed around 87 celsius while rendering.

    according to intel, the thermal spec for my processor is 100 Celsius.
    but something tells me it shouldn't get that hot.
    how long of a life will my processor have running it this hot?

    sorry, lots of questions but would realy appreciate some answers. thanks!

    BTW, I am using real temp and HWmonitor to monitor my temps
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes that is too hot.

    Maybe check that the heatsink is seated properly or change the thermal paste.

    Check that the fan/s is/are ok.
     
  3. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    the fan seems to run just fine, I dont really know what to look for on the heat sink but the screws are tight and its suppose to have arctic silver 5 compound on it to.

    I e-mail xotic, they said those temps don't sound to out of the ordinary, so I don't know
     
  4. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Cpus usually shut down at 100 degrees... You should not be getting 97.

    Try re-applying and reseating the heatsinks, like moral hazard said.

    Theres a guide in my signature for the 1722, it may help you.
     
  5. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Or you could complain that the fan is really really loud all the time (full speed) and you find the machine runs really really hot?

    I suppose it would be really loud at 97.
     
  6. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok, thanks you guys.
    the only thing keeping me from re-seating it is the fact that I bought a three year warrantee and I don't want to void it. but there are no "void" stickers that I can see so I might give it a try.

    what kind of thermal paste is recomended. I was thinking of maybe going with IC Diamond but maybe thats overkill
     
  7. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Naaa, i would say ICD is right for the components that little machine has to put up with, best paste will result in best cooling for that thing, so go with the ICD, also you can email MSI to ask about repasting, heck even tell them your problem and they should let you regardless of how the strict warrenty is, they seem to be quite good in that area (they even let you swap out components! except the warrenty for that component is its own so MSI cant help you with other things.)
     
  8. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    well, my warrantee is with xotic pc, not MSI, so i'll have to talk to them I guess.
     
  9. s-one

    s-one Notebook Geek

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    Keep us posted regarding your heat issue. I'm right on the border line with purchasing this laptop.... also there should be an official owners thread for this laptop correct?
     
  10. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    s-one Notebook Geek

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    Hey thanks for the link Darth Bane.
     
  12. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok, I'll let everyone know what happens.

    BTW, how much ICD compound should I buy? 1.5 Grams or what?
     
  13. Brandonw88

    Brandonw88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    well xotic just e-mailed me back saying it would be fine if I reaplied the thermal paste. so as soon as I get some paste and get everything finished i'll give everyone a review on it
     
  14. cloudbyday

    cloudbyday Notebook Deity

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    Have you tried undervolting or using a notebook cooler?
     
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    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Arctic Cooling MX-3 is the best compound on the market. ICD is just over-hyped
     
  16. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    I use icd and it's been great. ;) I don't think it really matters which one people get, the difference between different brands isn't substantial.
     
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    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    And me MX-3 ;) . It does make a difference , some are electrically conductive and some not
     
  18. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    ICD isn't conductive. Any of the "best" brands are not conductive. (i don't count arctic silver 5 as among the best).
     
  19. Brandonw88

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    I used the zalman 2000 cooler while taking temp readings.
    I'm not going to under volt my CPU, that would ruin the whole purpose of having a quad core and intels turbo boost feature.
     
  20. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    First, there is no program that can undervolt the i7 cpu's atm. Second, undervolting has NO affect on performance. All undervolting does is reducing the amount of voltage the cpu needs to run.
     
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    Ok everyone, I applied the IC Diamond today, rendered an HD video, and my temps only got up to 63 C. this is great! before it was at 97 C.
    So much better now.

    one question though, core #0 and #1 tend to stay 2 -4 degrees cooler than #2 and #3. #3 being the warmest. i dont think its to much to worry about just wondered what you guys had to say.
     
  22. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Excellent, and yeah Brandon, we've noticed this strange temp irregularity too, can't understand why you occasionally have a core that randomly spikes, good to know you just lost 34 C LOL!
     
  23. Brandonw88

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    ok good, that makes me feel better. thanks catacylsm
     
  24. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    It could have even been just reseating the heatsinks that did it :???:
     
  25. catacylsm

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    Yeah i'd think so too, or a lack of paste in general haha, my how these things just slip, by.
     
  26. Brandonw88

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    there wasnt even enough paste to cover half the cpu, only about a quarter of the cpu was even touching the heat sink, i put three dots of ic diamond along the cpu and it seems to be working fine now
     
  27. catacylsm

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    Ahh, now this would make perfect sense, quality check improvement on MSI products anyone? :)
     
  28. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Damn, that sucks, thats blatant dodgy!

    So in the end we should recommend to everyone who buys an msi to reapply the thermal paste.