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    MS 1022, how good is it for gaming?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by HRT, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. HRT

    HRT Notebook Geek

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    I haven't found any review or decent info about how well the MS 1022 play games.

    The info I'm looking for is something like:

    My 1022 plays Doom 3/FEAR/Quake 4/Rome:Total War/Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory/Civilization IV/Age of Empires 3/Black and White 2 at 400x300 super mega ultra hiper low at 0.000026 FPS.

    TIA :D
     
  2. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    kreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    Give us a review after you get it and let us know what you think.
     
  4. lamai

    lamai Notebook Enthusiast

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    What color ????? :D
    Did you see the notebook allready in red ???
    I'm having 1 in max 10 days ( otherwise i'm having trouble getting it ready before holiday ) . I can go for a red one , but it isn't in yet ( hoping this week ) with a 80 gb HDD and 1*512mb . Second option is a longer drive to another shop ( first one is very very close ) and they have the dark grey but for the same price they give only 60gb HDD and 2*256mb . I like the larger HDD and the 1*512 mb because the 60gb is pushing my HDD limit to min and with 1*512 mb it is better and easier to upgrade ( i'm having 1 extra 1gb , so that is 1.5gb with the red one ... niiiiceee ... :p ) .
     
  5. HRT

    HRT Notebook Geek

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    in red??

    whare are you getting it from?
    ms1022 looks good as 1012 or 1013?? is how much, errr, uglier?? heuehhe

    ;)
     
  6. lamai

    lamai Notebook Enthusiast

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    In Belgium , it is de S425 (same model as 1022 ) . In France they also sell the red one . It isn't the Ferrari red , more dark red / bordeaux with a white interior . In Holland they have the dark grey with grey interior . They should have the 3 colors available ( 3th one is black outside , white interior ) but not right now , it is still waiting ...
    links to some pics ...
    http://moo.student.utwente.nl/got/msis425/pic6.jpg
    http://moo.student.utwente.nl/got/msis425/pic5.jpg
    http://moo.student.utwente.nl/got/msis425/pic7.jpg
     
  7. HRT

    HRT Notebook Geek

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    well, I can't buy one anyway.

    ohh, but, gez, anyone here has a 1022??

    How well it does perform in BF2 or ET? I can't believe that no one here didn't play something with 1022.
     
  8. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    As I said, I won't be getting mine for a week (at best guess). I'm really excited. Unfortunately for some, however, I am not a big gamer. I will gladly post benchmarks in my review though! :)
     
  9. bobz99by

    bobz99by Notebook Consultant

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    How much did you pay for it?
     
  10. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    I paid 1770 after everything including shipping...but I threw in an extra 6 cell battery. Here's my config:

    XP Pro
    P-M 750 1.86ghz
    1024mb RAM in 1 stick
    100gb 5400 RPM HD
    a/b/g WLAN
    extra 6 cell battery

    I also got a 2 year parts and labor warranty for a little extra money, but it gives me a little extra comfort :).

    Rawpowerpc.com was really top notch in dealing with me. I highly recommend them as a reseller....they really impressed me.
     
  11. ocn

    ocn Notebook Guru

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    You paid too much. You don't even get Pentium M 2.0 Ghz and 7200rpm HDD. If I was you, I save that amount of money for Ducore laptop.
     
  12. CoffeeShark

    CoffeeShark Notebook Evangelist

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    actually, it's a good price for that system with those specs and extra battery. He didn't overpay for a 2.0 and the 100gb 5400rpm has plenty of speed and comes in at a good price point.

    and, he actually will HAVE a notebook while everyone waiting for a dual core will still be waiting, and likely be paying even more than that. not to even get into the whole point of dual-core technology, something that won't even be utilized to it's potential in most laptop usage.
     
  13. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Exactly, Coffeeshark beat me to it. I don't need the extra processing power or the faster hd. If anything a 7200 RPM drive would just add more heat, and annoy me. I usually use it for sitting in class taking notes, at which time I would need a whoopping 600mhz of processing power!! The 2.0 is not the best deal anyway, unless you can make use of the extra power. Otherwise, it's just a number. It's also not as marginally cost-efficient. The difference between the 1.73 and 1.86 is smaller than between the 1.86 and 2.0...the same goes for the Hard Drives, except that the difference is even bigger. You pay a premium to have those parts put in.

    Plus, I couldn't wait for a decent dual core to hit the main stream, and that would have also cost much more than this one.

    The white box was very reasonably priced. For everything I got, and the MANY months I shopped, I think I got exactly what I was looking for. Telling me I paid too much is like a slap in the face. :( In reality, I shopped LONG and hard, found a GREAT reseller, a good price for what I wanted, and I am happy with that.

    The whole package costs less shipped than my alternative (W3V) regularly, which had no extra battery, a 1 year warranty, and a slower (4200 RPM) HD.
     
  14. unleaded

    unleaded Notebook Evangelist

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    Last I checked there weren't any Duo Core 14" laptops with any form of dedicated graphics on the market just yet. Different strokes for different folks, I know that Ttupa researched his purchase extensively so how about you let him enjoy it? :rolleyes:
     
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    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    a 7200rpm HDD = alot more heat, very noticeable on a thin and light such as the 1022.
     
  16. kreidel

    kreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    BoooYahh!!!
     
  17. ocn

    ocn Notebook Guru

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    Sorry Ttupa. I did not mean "slap in the face". What I meant you were overcharged. I've placed a purchase for my MSI 1022. I did not order from one reseller. Here is what I order.

    - One MSI 1022 chasis (barebone) from ewiz.com : $720
    - Boxed Pentium M 760, 2Ghz from mwave.com : $320
    - 80GB 7200rpm Hitachi from ewiz: $150
    - 1 GB RAM Crucial from newegg.com: $90
    - Intel 2915A/B/G from newegg.com: $32
    - Windows XP Pro from newegg.com: $140

    Everything + shipping cost me almost $1500.

    Yes, I don't pay an extra 6-cell battery and warranty. I build the system for myself. I just wanted to share my shopping experienc with you. I hope you can see my point. How much for a 6-cell battery anyway?

    By the way, I got one 80GB 7200rpm HDD which does not generate a lot heat as people think. Unless you used it, you gain experience with it.

    If I configure it Rawpower, it costs me $1614.00.
     
  18. CoffeeShark

    CoffeeShark Notebook Evangelist

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    building your own will always cost less, ocn. no one questions that. but RawpowerPC is one of the lowest cost resellers you can find online for MSI notebooks, I'd hardly say they overcharge, but they are a business and they do make a profit.

    but if you got a bad piece of ram, you would've had to return it to newegg.com. and if you've returned things to newegg, it's not always quick or fun to do.

    then, if you were unlucky, you could've gotten a bad cpu from mwave - more returns, shipping cost, waiting time.

    and if God hated you, a bad 1022 chassis from ewiz. same deal, return, time and money wasted. or even worse, it dies in 2 months and you have to go back to MSI for chassis repair as an end-user, using your 1-year warranty with no reseller to back you up.

    with a reseller, you'll get a working machine, a place to go through if you DO have issues in the future, and a place to call for help if you have issues. Not everyone wants the hassle and uncertainty of building their own.

    It's just like desktops - some people love to build their own, but when purchasing a very high-end system, go to a Alienware or another builder for ease of mind as much as anything.

    plus the extra battery and extra year warranty, i would say, is well worth the $114 difference. Just depends on your point of view. Most batteries are around 80 bucks and the extended warranty was probably an additional 40.
     
  19. unleaded

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    The extra battery alone is $120 or $125. Add in an additional 1 year of warranty support and it looks like YOU overpaid, OCN and you'll be building that bad boy yourself.
     
  20. HRT

    HRT Notebook Geek

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    avadirect.com have the best prices I've ever seen for MSI lappys. Ohh, and there's no way in hell I would pay for a PM processor like 750 or even 740. They sell the 735 (which is suberb for oc'ing ) OEM, so is cheap as hell, kinda of :p

    ohh, and also, pay 140 for windoze, omg, even for you americans must be expensive. Just put linux on, or, sell your desktop and put your old windoze in your new lappy :cool:
     
  21. CoffeeShark

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    lol HRT, i agree that the high-end PMs are a little too expensive for the performance gain.

    as for Linux, a lot of people aren't prepared to go searching for drivers and such for their system. Also, 'old' windows might be win98 or win2k, and you don't want to drop those on a new laptop.
     
  22. HRT

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    actually my "old" windoze is a retail winxp from hmm, I don't know 2002? it's old hehe :p

    and I had lot more problems with windoze than I had with linux, I hate when a OS treat you like a retarded :mad: :mad:
     
  23. CoffeeShark

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    plus a lot of people on here are gamers and want to play the latest games on their systems, so they have to use windows.
     
  24. ttupa

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    A lot of that is convenience, as was said. I don't want to build it myself. I built my desktop, but that's a whole different ballgame with a much bigger park. This was a big purchase, and I wanted to do it right.

    2 years, hopefully no worries, plus a 6 cell battery is worth the extra in my book. As I said, I don't need the extra performance as much as I do the extra space.

    As far as Windoze(lol), well, I also am too busy to spend hours or possibly days configuring a system w/o an operating system. XP Pro on Newegg was 140, I think I paid 152. It's installed and running for me, and for an extra 10 bucks I think it's well worth it.

    As Unleaded said, though, different strokes...