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    LAPTOP RAM Overclocking help 10875H MSI GE75 10SF

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by berkkocaturk, Oct 8, 2021.

  1. berkkocaturk

    berkkocaturk Notebook Consultant

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    Hello,

    I have MSI GE75 10SF with 10875H and RTX 2070 it came with 16gb 3200mhz samsung single rank jedec memory.

    I was going to buy 32gb kingston 3200mhz jedec but saw that crucial has 3200mhz cl16

    Because my laptop has advanced bios and xmp i bought it and tried XMP. With XMP i am getting memory errors on memtest and blue screens so it is definitely not stable.

    When I manually adjust primary timings to 18-18-18-36-560 on 1.35V it works i have tested memtest and prime95 so i am mostly sure that it is stable.

    Has anyone ever tried ram overclock on this 10875h cpu what can i do i want to use the XMP and most importantly i want it stable.

    I have tried bumping up the voltage to 1.5V overclocking this ram but no setting booted over 3200mhz.

    Does this cpu and memory controller can't handle ram over 3200mhz and cl16 ? does anybody have experience.

    Is it possible that the motherboard is setting wrong subtimings and it is why i am getting the errors?

    Any help is appriciated. Thank you.

    Not stable XMP CL16 https://imgur.com/a/49sszHV#4vWLDTT
    Looks stable CL18 https://imgur.com/a/YnNyJdV
     
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    io2 voltage ,.,xmp "ram 1.35V"
    gear 1

    on msi forum is guide .,,.i try find him

    edit
    3200+ - gear2 - lower performance !
     
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    gear 2 is 11th gen

    I do not see gear option .

    how to adjust vccio?
     
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    what do you have in the OVERCLOCK DOMAIN?
    only SA offset ??

    I think 10th vccio1 and vccio2 ??
    or SA offset from 1.05V - need more for stability "around max 1.2-1.35 V" old platform

    check HWINFO or bios for actual voltage on SA

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    if 1.05V ,.,try add offset + 100mV on UNCORE domain "in MSI bios"
     
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    https://imgur.com/a/DDtl5w6

    These are the pictures of my bios which voltage you are referring to is it uncore? Will raising uncore get me stable at cl16
     
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    MSI - UNCORE domain is "System agent" - this contains + memory controller
    defaults - 1.05V

    most this sensor information / setting missing on MSI "IO / SA voltage / DDR voltage is on some MSI locked / XMP not works "
    try HWMONITOR in bios or HWINFO in windows
    try to verify SA VOLTAGE "this too sometimes missing - no sensor"


    ,.,.from 1.05V "OFFSET" + 100mv - 1.15V SA -example

    not need more than 1.15V "or 1.2V max "notebook limits"
    1.35V max -- for desktop users "24/7" + OC

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    DDR voltage from XMP profile - 1.35V "MAX" for better results
    if the XMP profile would work properly on the MSI would automatically increase - IO / SA voltage
    but this AUTO is sometimes -- above SAFE range :D
     
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    AIDA // CPU-Z - verify available SPD for your memory
    XMP profiles ??
     
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    or alternative tuning
    SA DOMAIN -- SA TRAINING and enable CL tuning// others
    use your profile 18-18-x-x "ram profile CUSTOM"

    after 3x reboot you have new profile "maximum" from AUTO-TUNE

    ,.,.bad RAM training or boot-loop - CMOS reset "45s power button"
     
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    Added thaiphoon picture too on the imgur album

    Not stable XMP CL16 https://imgur.com/a/49sszHV#4vWLDTT
     
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    try find SA voltage information
    HWINFO + sensor or in BIOS
     
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    Hwinfo does not show it and i do not see it in bios
     
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    all MSI is identical
    blind OC !! "but default is 1.05V"

    and you consider all the advantages over 18.18-x-x- timing
    OC risk ,.,.etc

    all this BENCH is identical in GAMES or normal usage
    no need this // cpu still Crippled - mobile CPU "locked"

    i think this "aggressive timing" on 3200MHz and this notebook its not necessary

    mainly there is poor support for this RAM modules what i need help with XMP
    vccio missing .,,.SA sensor missing ,.,. and now using dual rank ? this is less compatible for max speed !
     
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    or try
    use custom profile
    and enable RAM TRAINING "this is enabled AUTO for custom profile"
    set only RAM RATIO - 3200mhz

    133x2 x12 -3200mhz
    all others "0" or AUTO

    after 3x reboot -- you have new aggressive timing "maximum possitible"

    possitible set RAM voltage 1.35V "from XMP" for better results
    UNCORE voltage offset -- default

    edit
    this works best from OC TAB

    /// or small add offset in UNCORE domain + XMP profile
    try repair stability "+50mV or +100mV" -- 1.1V SA // 1.15 SA
    "default is for most system VCCSA 1.05V"


    .,.,.edit

     
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    Ram voltage is manually set to 1.35v already
    I will try others