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    Is there an MSI that gives me the 4850 and a quad in the US?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by NecessaryEvil, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. NecessaryEvil

    NecessaryEvil Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd prefer to build it myself, but I don't think that's an option at the moment.
     
  2. sena168

    sena168 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think there's one coming out soon in late april in the US. The model is GT725-212US, comes with Q9000 with mobility 4850
     
  3. NecessaryEvil

    NecessaryEvil Notebook Evangelist

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    q9000? meh...was hoping for 9100. Oh well. Still, guess I might as well wait for it anyway.
     
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    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    Just upgrade the CPU yourself. 1722 chassis is wickedly easily accessible.
     
  5. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Chances are neccesary that it will have OC features for the Q9000 so the clocks would effectively be 2.3-2.4 ghz prehaps?

    Ive heard you can set OC settings too, between like 16% 20% and 24% in bios, thats for the Duo core 725 anyway.
     
  6. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    That is bs. GX720 can overclock quads, 1722 id2 can overclock quads. Why gt725 wouldn't?
     
  7. NecessaryEvil

    NecessaryEvil Notebook Evangelist

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    I know the 1722 is easy to work in, I've worked on a friend's 1722, and it's just as simple as my 1651 was.


    However, the 1722 isn't as appealing to me due to the 9600. It was fine in the 1651 as it was a portable gaming system. Now I'm looking at selling my workstation due to an impending move, so I'm looking for more GPU power.


    I wasn't as concerned with the clock speeds as I was the cache amounts for Q9000 and Q9100. I typically run the cpu speeds on the low side, so if they're both running 1600mhz, the cache of the Q9100 helps me out more.

    Oh well. I'm sure it won't matter enough for me to worry about it. I've seen it listed at $1600 at RK. I'll just wait until it's out and see what happens.
     
  8. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    The MSI 1722 (ADVENT 6555) doesnt support overclocking, thats why, and i haven't met anyone with the 725-210 UK yet (Exactly the same as the Advent 6555 with some + features)

    The stand alone 725 Duo core series does on the other hand, so it is likely.

    And i dont think the 725-212 (US QUAD Varient) has been released yet either.

    And yeah i can see why you like the cache size of the q9100, its twice as big as the 9000's hehe :)
     
  9. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    did you try using setfsb to overclock? Also I had a 1722 -ID2 and put a q9100 in it and it overclocked with the turbo button without any problems. They may have to update the bios or something but the computer is very capable of doing it. I am just wondering if gx720 bios would work with gt725 or not.
     
  10. sena168

    sena168 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do own a GT725-210UK but no matter what % I choose for the turbo. The freuqency is still kept at 2075 MHz, not quite sure why.
     
  11. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    Did you check your settings at BIOS Advanced menu (Alt+Insert). Also check your clock settings via CPU-Z not by windows.
     
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    I did, no matter I choose 16%, 20% or 24%. The CPU-Z still shows 2075MHz

    I have already put the computer to Full performance in the power setting as well
     
  13. catacylsm

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    Alit, i dont want to overclock because it will most likely void my warrenty because its not released by MSI directly, although im hoping i can safely do it via bios.

    Sena, are you pressing your Turbo button? Im not sure which one it is but there definately is one, i think lol.
     
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    yer man, tried everything.

    I'm hoping to see another GT725 with quad core users to show up, so that i know if my laptop is a defected one or not.
     
  15. catacylsm

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    Wonder if its CPUZ

    Can you run a cinebench R10 with and without your OC on?

    That should provide a second set of clear results.
     
  16. Silicon Chip

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    How to get to the bios?
     
  17. alitunay

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    Delete at the post screen.
     
  18. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    Well changing your CPU will void your warranty but setFSB will not. If you have any issues with the computer just to a factory restore and ship it like that.
     
  19. catacylsm

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    In some cases pushing your FSB will also, and its brand new so i dont wnat to risk it just yet,
     
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    leipo Notebook Guru

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    I just read a German review of the GT627Q and they mentioned that MSI limited the overclocking to 2%. I guess the quad core cpu's can't deal with more overclocking without producing too much heat.

    http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/msi-gt627q-9547vhp-868

    Translated to English: http://translate.google.com/transla...tebookjournal.de/tests/msi-gt627q-9547vhp-868
     
  21. alitunay

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    I got my Q9100 to 2.6GHZ without overheating via SetFSB. So that shouldn;t be a problem at all.
     
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    Agreed, i have real low temps under full power with my Q9000 so im suprised that thats the problem, prehaps MSI are adressing this, maybe a new update.
     
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    Ahhh, thanks for the info leipo. Much appreciated! :)

    I was surprised to see quad not being able to use the turbo function. I guess MSI want to play on the safe-side.

    My Q9000 run at as low as 44 C to maximum of 70 C, so I would have have thought overclocking it should be ok.

    In general, the Q9000 in default speed is good enough but always a bonus if it is overclockable :p
     
  24. catacylsm

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    Yeah, i think it may be a bios fault prehaps, These are pretty new laptops and MSI may not have irons bugs out yet.