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    Intel HM55 Chipset Issues

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by lionhearted, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. lionhearted

    lionhearted Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmmm, its kinda hard to inspect Intel's motherboard, but i hope Intel HM55 is not that a complicated motherboard though..

    Is it a fact that Intel HM55 chipset has got crashing problems and such and such with most of i7 CPUs. I heard rumors said that HM55 motherboards are still not compatible with SSD flash drivers. *Lord have mercy :( . Wish to have a specialist technician who is disposed into motherboards issues confirms us that HM55 chipset are good enough to be handled with i7 if a ram is 1333Mhz!

    e.g. the spec for my pc:
    Ram: 6GB PC3-1333Mhz DDR3 (2GBx3) ??
    GPU: ATI HD5870 1GB GDDR5, DX11.
    CPU: i7-740QM, 1.73~2.93GHz, 2.5 GT/s, 45nm, 6MB, 45W
    with a 7200HD dual drives

    Does that means that Intel HM55 works smoothly with 1333Mhz hands down?

    How about game's field. does it work just steady fine with HM55?

    Do you guys think that this kind of issue is just contradicted with a MEMORY SUPPORT DDR31066??

    i am really getting pissed off.

    Hope those news are just fake grapevines
     
  2. JoshTexax

    JoshTexax Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Lion.

    the Spec you have cited is awesome dude!

    your issue with Intel HM55 is what i was trying to ask in here. Any idea?
     
  3. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    I believe the GX660 & GX660R have the PM55 chipset, not HM55. I believe some of the product specifications were wrong during pre-release.
     
  4. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    My MS-1727 has HM55 chipset. I have an i7-720QM with a pair of 2GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM sticks in it. I also have an Intel 160GB G2 SSD. So far no problems with the CPU and RAM. Some awkward stuff with the SSD though, but nothing really ground shaking. Explained here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...ts-can-not-take-full-advantage-fast-ssds.html

    PS.
    About gaming field: I have played many different games on this laptop: Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Mafia 2, Starcraft 2, Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Fallout 3, Demigod, Command & Conquer 3, Call of Duty: World at War, Street Fighter 4, Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War 2, just to name a few. I have never came across any problems while playing any games on this laptop. My OS is Windows 7 Pro 64-bit.
     
  5. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You can essentially fix the 4K performance issues by disabling C-states in the 1727's BIOS. See my post on page 7 of that thread.

    To the OP, I've had few issues with my GX740. It came with 4 GB (2x2 GB) of DDR3-1333 standard, upgraded to 8 GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333, and all has been well. If you're going to get the Intel 6200 wireless adapter, make sure to download the drivers from MSI, not from Intel. The older set at MSI I've found to provide more consistent connectivity.
     
  6. ^nox

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    Hey Marecki

    Im curious i have acer 8942g with i3 processor hm55 chipset like yours 4 gb 1066 memory etc... Im gonna be upgrading my memory and hard drive. Im curious can i put 8 GB of 1333 memory into the system ? or do i haev to stick with 1066 ? with hard dirve upgrade could you maybe point me to a good SSD or perhaps hybrid SSD drive ?

    Thanks a bunch
     
  7. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    You can put 8GB of RAM (2x4GB) in Your laptop (I did the same with mine). Since You have an i3 CPU, the RAM will downclock itself to 1066, as this is the maximum RAM frequency supported by the memory controller built into Your CPU. Only i7 quadcore CPUs support 1333 DDR3 RAM. Personally, I would go with 1333 though, especially that nowadays 1066 and 1333 modules are sold at the same price, and 1333 modules are a bit more futureproof.
    As for HDD/SSD, You can't go wrong with Intel X25-M or any Sandforce based SSD, or Seagate Momentus XT as a hybrid HDD. Your laptop supports dual hard drive setup, so I would recommend getting an SSD for OS and a large capacity HDD for data storage.
     
  8. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks alot Marecki

    first one to get back to me here on laptopforum since i registered. I will go ahead and order the crucial 8GB Kit (4GBx2), 204-pin SODIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 memory module CL 9 unless you have any better suggestions.

    As for harddrives i did open up my laptop looked inside there are two bays but im not sure if i have to buy a bracket for the second one. But if im not mistaken the hard drive interface im lookign for is a 2.5 inch SATA correct ?

    Thanks again :)

    +1 rep btw
     
  9. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Thanks for the rep :).

    Crucial RAM will work perfectly.

    2.5 inch SATA interface is the right one.
     
  10. kosti

    kosti Notebook Virtuoso

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    I just got the same G.Skill RAM as Marecki today for my GX640. So far so good. I also dropped in a 120GB G.Skil Phoenix Pro SSD. Thanks for the C-States tip Saturn.
     
  11. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    When I first upgraded to the G.Skill RAM (2 x F3-10666CL9-4GBSQ), my system would freeze randomly. After running Windows Memory Diagnostic it turned out, that one module was faulty, so I had to have it replaced. I would recommend running the WMD just to check, that everything is okay.
     
  12. kosti

    kosti Notebook Virtuoso

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    will do, thanks man. WMD? Weapons of Mass destruction? I'll get George Bush involved and see if he can find any. :D
     
  13. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    With Microsoft, You never know... ;)
     
  14. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Hey ive been looking around some more and found there is all kind of DD3 1333 memory modules. For example
    DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)
    DDR3 1333 (PC3 10660)
    DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
    DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

    I know the last one is a 1600 modules the other 3 are 1333 (and as you said since i dont have an i7 "yet" they will automatically downclock to 1066) , should i perhpas go with the 1600 one ? For future compatibility or would that be a waste of money. The 1600 memory is quite interesting 8GB with passive cooling and Support Intel XMP (Extreme Memory Profiles) its 98 bucksby "Kingston" :)

    The other thing i dont get is why so manmy different models 10600, 10660,10666 ? what is the differnence ?

    never mind the second question found an answer on another hardware forum : It's all in the way the RAM manufacturer rounds the bandwidth number.

    For DDR3-1333, the correct bandwidth is 10666.6666. As you've found out, some call it 10600, some call it 10660, & others call it 10666. It's all the same thing.



    Thanks
     
  15. Ghola

    Ghola Notebook Evangelist

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    no probs here either....
     
  16. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    The number You're asking about is simply the maximum throughput of a single memory module, expressed in Megabytes per second. It's a JEDEC standard.

    DDR-266 = PC-2100
    DDR-333 = PC-2700
    DDR-400 = PC-3200
    DDR2-533 = PC2-4200
    DDR2-667 = PC2-5300
    DDR2-800 = PC2-6400
    DDR2-1066 = PC2-8500
    DDR3-1066 = PC3-8500
    DDR3-1333 = PC3-10600
    DDR3-1600 = PC3-12800
    DDR3-2000 = PC3-16000


    DDR3-1600 in SO-DIMMs are made for Sandy Bridge laptops, as the memory controller in Sandy Bridge Quad Cores supports RAM up to DDR3-1600. For Your current machine, even if You upgrade it with an i7 CPU (Clarksfield), the maximum supported RAM frequency will be 1333MHz. I would stick to 1333, as at the moment the 1600 is an unnecessary cost and it will give You 0 benefits.
     
  17. ^nox

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    Yet again big thanks ! Very clear explenation ! :)
     
  18. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Poped in 2x4GB DDR3 10666 (1333) CL9 modules in acer 8942g with i3 cpu. It downclocked to 1066 so it all worked. Passed all memory test and windows index went up form 5.9 to 6.3 ! yay
     
  19. barnabe619

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    Did it increased in-game performance ?
     
  20. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Nothing that i could notice to be honest. Since the FSB didnt change, if it did it is unoticable. But as far as load times are much faster especially in sony vegas etc... Once i get i7 and can ru nthe memory at 1333 the score should shoot up to 6.7 and mayeb then i could see 1 - 3 fps gain ... Hope htat helps
     
  21. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    With a Quad Core i7 and 1333CL9 RAM, my Windows Experience Index score is 7.3.
     
  22. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Thats very nice, well to be honest with you guys my memory is faulty. After few days of usage i got 3 blue screens of death and applications were hanging. ALthough WIndows memory diagnostic reported no problems i ran memtest and there were well over 1000 errors... I will be contacting newegg for replacement but i jsut hope its not due to the fact my cpu is downclocking it :(

    Sad face over here, i was soo excited for a while ...
     
  23. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Downclocking shouldn't be anyhow related to the problems You described. When I upgraded my RAM from 4 to 8GB, one module turned out to be faulty too.
    I'd suggest running memtest with only one module installed at a time. Probably only one is faulty; this way You will be able to isolate it. Cheer up and good luck :).
     
  24. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Hey man, thanks again for usefull info i ran and tested all night :) as suggested .. and as it turns out only 1 module is faulty but big time over 2500 erros in memtest86+...

    I bought this memory from newegg, do you have any suggestions regarding replacement should i jsut send both "i think i will have to" modules back and get a new set and hope for the best ?
     
  25. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    I would send an e-mail to newegg, describe the problem and ask them, whether You should return only one module, or both of them. I think that only one module should be sent back, after all, why would one return a working one?
     
  26. ^nox

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    Ok i have contacted newegg. Unfortunatelly i do have to sent the whole kit back which is a bit wierd. I do have to pay the shipping fee to them as well so that makes my first transaction with newegg not appealing at all. And i do not have a guarantee that the memory will be ok when it comes back. But once it does i will report back.
     
  27. FFZERO

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    Good luck with the exchange should not be too much of a hassle. You would have to pay shipping if you are going through RMA process with the manufacturer as well. There appear to be a lot of defect with the 8 GB (4 GB x 2) kits lately. This may explain why the huge sales lately or could it be a HM55 chipset not playing well with CL9/1333MHz? I believe my 8 GB kits is defective as well since I do get random BSOD (code 3B) but I am currently using close to 6 GB with no problem.
     
  28. ^nox

    ^nox Notebook Consultant

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    Ok guys jsut recieved my ram, although Newegg staff did tell me that i have to pay for shipping upon coming to UPS the representative there told me its a prepaid label "who knows" but i didnt have to pay. Took about a week and a half to get the ram back and it seems to be running fine , 2 hours of memtest+ and no errors so far.

    Thanks a bunch, hopefully no more BSOD's that cost me nearly 82 bucks ! :D