How is the FORCE 16F2?

How is the FORCE 16F2? good? bad? quallity? because its very cheap, TOO CHEAP... worth the price?
FORCE 16F2 / MSI 16F2

 

Barebones, its not any cheaper than the Clevo p151hm from rjtech.

And rjtech really knows whats up... They changed it from gtx 460m to 560m default without changing the price

The only questionable aspect of MSI nowadays is the case. This was very bad with the gx640. However, this is because they used the same case as the gx620 which was several years old.
The newer series are much much better. Overall they are probably the cheapest "real" gaming laptops and they don't exactly have that "boutique" feel.
But thats what I like about them. The case is still better than any consumer laptop probably, without all the bells and whistles, and its still a little like a normal laptop with the same power as all the flashy brands.

 

Thanks!!!


any more comments?

 

Im with you that seems pretty unreal.

 

We recently lowered the price as we try to close out the remaining 460M's. The price is so good because we are trying to move remaining inventory before we switch over to the 560M. If you are interested in the 560M it is in stock now also.

The Clevo P151 (Sager NP8130) did not change in price with the new GPU.

 

Hi! My friend ordered 16F2 based system. Can anyone of resellers or owners post detailed photos of this unit? I am very interested in faceplate with speakers grill.(I cant clearly see it at resellers website photos ) Owners can post own experience... Thanks in advance. Will be very grateful for any info

 

From what I see, the Force 16F2 has a second hard drive option plus the DVD drive where the Cleve does not.

 

It comes with MSI's Inte' warrenty?

 

My biggest concern about the 16f2 is that if i add some stuff, i don't really have no way of knowing a part or 2's on backlog until payment's been processed. All i want is the 2630qm with 2 750gb 7200rpm on it with 560m. Um.. do you happen to know how long those config would take?

On another note, anyone know if the turbo fan button is on this chassis as well? From what i can tell, it's a g680 chassis sans annoying orange lights and no mention of turbo button.

 

The barebone 16F2 does not have turbo feature or the cooler boost fan function.

 

XoticPC confirmed my friend, that 16F2 has cooler boost function. Strange...

 

I will recheck another unit but have not seen that feature active on the barebone units. MSI does not usually have the enhanced features crossover to the barebone models.

 

That will be great! Could you post photo of front faceplate with speaker grill?

 

How's this?

 

Nice! Thanks seen it on your website. Still can't see speaker grills. And now I see, that two buttons on left side is not assigned for anything... Can they be configured and assigned?
OMG I have looked better these 2 buttons are dummies?....

 

The buttons on the left are not buttons at all, they are cast features in the panel to make it look uniform. There are no actual "speaker grills" the material is uniform across the entire surface.

 

It comes with MSI's inte' warrenty?

 

Saw your previous post, meant to answer it. Depends on the reseller, Xotic PC provides a U.S. based warranty.

 

Is the sound quality/performance limited by not having the speaker grills?

 

Oh... because I need the europe warranty (or global)

 

does it have the same sound as the gt680r

 

short and simple: no

 

According to all the retailers I've seen selling it, it does?

 

yeah samething i heard

 

16F2 has the same speakers as GT680r. So, quality should be the same.

 

How's the size? Is it really big for a 15" notebook?

 

heh?? hm ok sorry

 

For our PowerPro R 11:36 (MSI MS 16F2) repairs are only done at the US factory. In the unlikely event that you would have to return your computer for warranty repairs when outside the US, you would have to pay for the shipping/handling and insurance both ways, but your warranty is still valid.

 

I really want to buy Force16F2 because it very strong but it's price is very cheap. So it make me worry, why is it so cheap with that power?
Should I buy Force16F2? or I buy GX680, it more expensive than 16F2 but it safe. do you think so?

 

While I have no personal experience with the Force16F2, I can tell you XoticPC and PowerNotebooks are reputable resellers, who I doubt would try to rip people off by selling cheap pieces of junk, I've reccomended it to several of my friends looking for good quality laptops.

 

The MS-16F2 is the same as the GT680 & GT683 without the external LED lamps, Turbo engine and cooler boost. The MS-16F2 with the 560M is now available.

 

definitely can't beat the price on one

 

I have more questions. it no cooler boost. I use laptop a long time.
so do it have a problem with temperature ?
do it affect the CPU and GPU ?
it no Turbo engine of MSI but it still have Intel Turbo Boost ?

 

My friend ordered 16F2 and as soon as it will arrive, I will ask it for a day or maybe longer.... and will make review with photos and benchmarks. Hope it will arrive at the end of this week or early next week. Stay tuned

 

I just ordered a barebone one as well from RK

Buying my own CPU, memory, and Drives Etc.

 

We have ordered ours from powernotebooks. With i7-2630qm and GTX560M

 

I hope to hear your comment about msi 16F2 when you have it

 

Be sure! I will make review! I know, that there are a lot of questions about barebones now. So, I wanna help others to decide.

 

I order mine from XoticPC.com and I get a really good deal:

FORCE 16F2 / MSI 16F2

- Processor: 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU Provided FREE with Processor Upgrade!
- Display: 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- Graphics Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- Ram: Samsung 16,144MB (16GB) DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (4GBx4)
- Primary Hard Drive: 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid 32MB Cache (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)
- Second Hard Drive: 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)
- Optical Drive Bay: 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) in ODD Bay
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
- Camera: 3.0 Mega Pixels Integrated Digital Video Camera
- Wireless Network: Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz), 3x3 adapter, 450 Mbps bandwidth, Intel® Wireless Display, and Intel® vPro™ technology support
- I/O Ports:
• Monitor ( VGA ) : 15 pin D-Sub x 1
• HDMI : 1
• USB 3.0 : 2
• USB 2.0 : 2
• eSATA : 1
• Mic in : 1
• Headphone out : 1
• RJ45 : 1
• Audio Line in: 1
• Audio Side speaker out: 1

- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
• HD DynaAudio, Realtek ALC888S
• 2 Speakers: 2W x 2 + 1 Subwoofer
• Internal Microphone x 1

- Warranty: 1 Year Complete Care Warranty - 1 Year Parts with Ground Shipping, 24/7 Telephone Tech Support & Lifetime Labor Warranty

I paid $1265.00 including the shipping and 30 days display warranty
(except for the RAM and the wireless card.)
I bought the 16GB of RAM in Newegg for $151.00 (Samsung MV-3T4G4/US)
and the wireless card from excaliberPC for $46.00 (Intel N6300)
And I sold the original memory that comes with the original purchase (6gb 2gbx3) for $55.00 on Ebay

 

did you get it?
did you make review it?
I really like it but not at all of review force 16f2
I need to sure it good or bad laptop

 

Does it have Optimus ? (Graphic Chipset support)

 

I don't think the GX680 does, so it's unlikely that the 16F2 will.

 

You will notice that no one is really offering Optimus with high end video cards. Even though it is theoretically possible to implement Optimus with high end video cards like the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M w/1.5GB GDDR5 and above there are compatibility issues with several games, STEAM, and even Linux. You will see it with the mid-range cards like say the GT 540M, but not with the high end cards. It seems that when you try to compromise you don't do either thing well.

So, you have to decide whether battery life or powerful graphics is most important to you, and make your choice accordingly.

 

Ohh ...
I am looking for a gaming laptop with optimus, It seems that I will have to wait a bit more ...

 

Someone already got the laptop? MUST TO GET A REVIEW!

 

I am looking at the Force 16F2, too. Pricewise seems pretty good.
So if it's based on the MSI GT680 or GT683, where can the drivers be downloaded from later on? My understanding is that there will be a driver CD included when you get it from xoticpc or powernotebooks, so the initial system setup should not be an issue. I have my own W7.
But where can the later driver/bios updates be downloaded from?
The MSI issues a warning regarding the applicability of their drivers (either the GT680 or the GT683) to the whitebook systems.

 

Once MSI gets to it, you will find the BIOS and drivers at MSI Notebook Product Specifications

In the meantime, all of the component drivers that are supported on the PowerPro R 11:36 (MS 16F2) can be used from the MSI GT683R and MSI GT680. For example the chipset, video, audio, LAN, USB 3.0, SCM, IRST, etc. are the same so you can use them confidently. Just know to use the proper nVIDIA drivers depending on whether you have the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 192bit w/1.5GB GDDR5 or nVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M w/1.5GB GDDR5.

Just don't use the GT series BIOS or drivers for things like KLM or other drivers for things the 16F2 doesn't support.

 

Ok, thanks for the information, I'll keep an eye on that site.

 

Hi did you get it?
I really need your review

 

Should get it today , but I will be home only tomorrow. You will see review in 1-2 days.