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    How good is your Newest MSI 780r did you benchmark it yet ?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by andy.lowel, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    Newest MSI 780r with best Graphic card wont beat my old msi gt725 dont believe it ?

    hehehheheh

    well take look here
    Review MSI GT780R Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    scroll down to the Cinebench CB R11.5 CPU 64Bit CB R11.5 OpenGL 64Bit

    and see scores LOL i7-2630QM GTX 560M ddr3 8gb

    CPU 4.96
    GPU 39.57


    well I have MSI GT 725 or rather copy of it :) called Advent, my laptop cost max 300$ on ebay

    and my laptop q9200es ddr2 8gb ati 4850 kills msi 780 or at least the GPU.

    my scores

    cpu 4.28
    gpu 51.93

    So what the point in Buying MSI 780 ?

    You can get Cinebench from here MAXON: CINEBENCH
     
  2. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Really? .
     
  3. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    well I provided links so you can check it up for yourself

    basically my q9200es overclocked to 3.7 Ghz working together with ati 4850 not overclocked kills MSI GT780r in Gaming performance
     
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    Thats not necessarily my point. However if you do want to brag score, please run 3dmark vantage or 3dmark 11 instead. And dont worry they have a whole cpu score area for you to show.
     
  5. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    @dragon well here you go i even copied scores from other CPU's :eek: this test was done with SuperPI so only for the CPU

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/619044-do-you-believe-guess-how-far-can-q9200es-go-2.html


    in few min I will run 3dmark 11 and we will compare results again
     
  6. Kirrr

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    4850 isn't a dx11 card. 3DMark11 won't run on that card.
     
  7. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    yeah just found it out

    will run 3d mark 06
     
  8. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    3d mark 06 is rubbish did the test and at the end it show window asking if i want to view results on-line and to view my results i have to register and to register i have to pay LOL
     
  9. Captain Razer

    Captain Razer Notebook Evangelist

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    honestly I don't trust benchmarks tools! I tried it on many computers that are older than my desktop scored higher! try games on it and I suggest GTAIV and Crysis2!
     
  10. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    some benchmarks are ok Cinebench is good cuz it test rendering with use only the CPU and gaming performance cpu+gpu.

    superPI is good to if you want to test the CPU only

    I can play every game even without over clocking at all.
     
  11. Kirrr

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    My sig. machine can run both maxed out with a decent fps.
     
  12. Captain Razer

    Captain Razer Notebook Evangelist

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    not that I said you can't! but how far will it perform comparing to the newer models! thats what I want to know right now :D

    benchmarking tools bearly represent anything! my good ol' GTX295 didn't scored any higher than GTX260 back in 2009 using this cinebench!

    try out any intensive game! I would like to see the result! :)
     
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    not in 1080p because as far as I know the highest res for this model is 1680x1050!
     
  14. Kirrr

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    I have a 28" monitor with resolution of 1920x1200. Usually use the notebook with that.
     
  15. andy.lowel

    andy.lowel Notebook Guru

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    i have no problems with any game on my laptop screen is full HD bought from ebay but dont play games on full HD.

    and really i dont play much games the only thing i use that need a bit of power is 3ds max and AE thats why i was talking about bench in Cinebench cuz it has rendering test just as if you were using Mental-ray.

    the point of this thread was is really worth spending 1000£ on a laptop which will work really only a little better than laptop worth 300£ >?
     
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    mind telling me the setting you used in crysis2!

    well I agree about that it's not worth the upgrade! the GT725 was also $1400 at it's launch! just not long ago newegg stopped selling the GX740 for $800 which is I swear to god if I didn't need the battery life I would've gone with that!
     
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    1200p and advanced level, no patches.

    and before the GTX, 1280x800 advanced with the GTS and no overclock on cpu.
     
  18. xault

    xault Notebook Consultant

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    To OP, if you can't even run directx 11, then that automatically makes your computer inferior. But if you think that you're computer is better, then obviously don't go buying a new one...and what is this thread even for? to brag? Because there are already tons of gt780R/DX/DXR benches on this site that you could have read.
     
  19. andy.lowel

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    next year you will see directx 12 that doesnt mean 780 will be useless

    most of games run on directx 10 and even 9 so no point upgrading to 780 and new graphic just to have direcx 11

    780 with its 2635 if you would like to use it with 3ds max and metalray will be only few milliseconds faster than q9200 when renderings and it wont be faster at all when modelling

    the same is in AE the only good thing is the vram like for example 560 got 3gb so it would help but if you have 0.5gb vram and 8gb ram thats enough too.

    you get my point ?

    gaming performance aint better or if there are any its only when you play in full HD and not really to much.

    people who use 3ds max do know max doesnt even support directx10 it still use directx 9 and opengl :p
     
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    Looks like you have it all figured out. Then instead of buying a new computer, just upgrade the GPU? There are also a lot of games that utilize dx11, such as the Witcher 2, crysis 2, BF3, etc. I know that I can run the first two games on high settings @ 1080p. I usually get around 30 fps.
     
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    well i wouldnt buy 780 i would rather, wait till next year somewhere in the middle of 2012 you will see Laptops with ddr 4 and ivy bridge cpu's :p

    both ivy and ddr4 use much less power comparing to current ram and cpus while being much faster.
     
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    Did you mean much == 20% faster? :D
    Unless you are talking about the performance increase of on-board Intel GPU. :eek:

    DDR4 in 2012, not quite sure about it, as it has been delayed for quite some time

    Would DDR4 provide noticeable increase in gaming performance?
    Only time will tell, but most probably it's just a minuscule increase.
     
  24. andy.lowel

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    "...Performance increase of on-board Intel GPU.." well most probably you dont even know what youre talking about LOL, have you had ever before the GPU inside the CPU ? this intel GPU will be faster than any newest PCI gpu on the market today the reason for it is that the CPU wont need call any on board dedicated pci GPU which take time of course. Not sure about gaming on it but you can for example use build in GPU for windows Boot and pci GPU for gaming or rendering only. We will see when it come out.


    ddr4 will consume half of the power of ddr3 will run at 2.1Ghz and more this will help with for example rendering and help the laptop run cooler less voltage
    starting speed for ddr3 was 1066
    starting speed for ddr4 is 2100


    ivy will help with rendering for sure it will run cooler less power needed it include graphic it will have more than 4 cores

    there is no info yet on how many cores will ivy have but for sure it will have more than 4 on some websites you will find info ivy may have 8 cores

    ivy and ram wont improve gaming performance much i dont think so but if you use 3ds max or AE you should see improvement ;)


    the good think about ivy and ddr4 is that both need less power which mean laptop will be cooler and that is important isnt it ?


    and once more here someone says ddr4 may come out this year http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/samsung-ddr4-modules-offer-40-power-saving-2011016/

    here is a piece of the article
    "..By the middle of next year (if standardization is achieved in 2011) DDR4 pricing will have dropped to the same level as DDR3, it will be standard in new laptops..."