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    Gt 760, the bigger brother of gt660....

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Ulags, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. Ulags

    Ulags Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys while i was searching for gx740 videos youtube, i saw a video of a gt 760 model launched in the computex 2010.. This is the configuration of the laptop in that video
    i7-740qm
    12 gigs of ram
    nvidia gtx 460m
    dynaudio.,
    anyone have an idea of when will it be released? Since the sandybridge and the ati 6xxx cards are going to be released by Q1 2011, the release date cant be far away.. Can we expect this laptop to come out soon?
     
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    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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  3. Silicon Chip

    Silicon Chip Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you even think 460m is worth putting, i mean it will require 400W power brick, Plus i can blindly say that 2 fans are inadequate. Lesser than three fans is suicide. I mean people at Sager and Clevo aint idiots, who put 4 fans! ! And msi is reluctant to research and improve the heat dissipation tech in the laptops, they still use copper heatsinks who anybody with a welding machine and copper can make.
     
  4. Ulags

    Ulags Notebook Consultant

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    Since desktop gtx460m is a huge hit, am hoping that nvidia will do justice with its laptop version.. But technically speaking it should consume less power compared to a 480m, dissipate less heat and performance comparable between 5850 and 5870.. If nvidia satisfies all these, then am on it.. To me 480m is a total failure and hope nvidia will learn from its mistakes.. The laptop also faces a stiff competition from the asus g53 and the new g73 equipped with the same card..
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Most everything you have said here can be debunked. Clevo's W880CU cools its single 480M with one dedicated fan, and keeps it below 70C under load.

    Besides, the 460M is a totally different core, and won't even be a 75W chip.

    But you are right, about MSI being way behind, hen it comes to cooling design.
    The desktop GTX 460 is a different core than the 460M, so we can't draw performance comparisons from it.

    GTX 460 = GF104; GTX 460M = GF106
     
  6. Silicon Chip

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    My big mistake guys, I assumed we were talking about 480m.
    Btw we cant say that clevo cools with a single fan so its okay, i mean you have to consider the cooling desing which you just said was ancient and in that design we need more fans, otherwise why did msi bother to put 2 instead of standard 1 fan .
     
  7. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Thats quite inaccurate, MSI's design is somewhat different when they cool components, they used the stretched heatsinks to allow pulled in air (Therefore passive vents on the GT6**) to brush over the heatsink allowing fairly decent heat dissapation, not only is the 660's design amplifying their original design, the HS block on each component now has (Tower extentions?) along with 2-3 heat pipes, imo MSI are up there with the big guys like Clevo, but use a simpler (And i dont think i can say much quieter method anymore because clevo's really pulled down on noise with the new machines.)
     
  8. Silicon Chip

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    But I mean with tech's like active phase cooling and even peltier effect tech being available, People in the industry are just not using any new innovation, its not just msi, But even if others did it, msi would come last. I mean how can 100*C on a 5870 be an acceptable temp for msi? With those temps parts lose straight away 1 yr life if not more
     
  9. catacylsm

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    Naaa, been running a samsung r700 with an 8600 at 98C for 3 years, 0 faults...yet :)

    And i've not seen any 5870 from msi at that temperature at all, furmarks a test designed to put holes in your card (See their website), the 640 and 740 are warm now and then, well it doesn't really matter because the components are within tolerable range.

    The gt series 6 and 7 aim to get MSI back on track properly though, the innovation behind the 725 was the single fan design, it made our laptops a lightweigh, powerful cooling solution which wasn't as loud as a jet plane.

    MSI think about price too, were among some of the cheapest, good quality and good performing machines out their, were not slated as a cheap make either (Cough .. advent.lol) :p

    As for innovative solutions, well i'm certain weight, power requirements, sound levels and price all factor in to using the new technologies available, but it'l come eventually. Personall, i'd keep watching the graphene tech they are working on ;)