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    GenTechPC: GS75 with 180W adapter or 230W?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Weaboo1917, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. Weaboo1917

    Weaboo1917 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Most other sellers list the GS75 w/ RTX 2060 to come with a 180W power adapter, but GenTechPC lists it with a 230W adapter. Can someone from GenTech clarify which one will actually be received?
     
  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Hello, let me check and I will get back to you shortly, thank you. :)
     
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    Hello, after further checking, it is 180W and we will correct the typographical error. We apologize for any confusion and inconvenience this has caused.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification! While I have your attention, do you charge extra for purchases made in foreign (not USD) currency, or will it simply be the listed price multiplied by the conversion ratio?
     
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    Sorry, a bit more "unrelated to thread" opinion.

    I really like the styling and the specs of the GS75 but the more info I have read the more it seems that the general consensus is that the Max-Q RTX cards are a bit lacklustre. I was about to buy a GS75 in the UK,but have now changed my mind and will probably go for a GE75.

    One thing I found out ( internet related search information so treat with caution) was that the Max-Q in the GS75 has its graphics core clock restricted to 885Mhz and its boost clock restricted to 1185Mhz. The GE75, having a full fat RTX 2070 has a core clock of 1215Mhz and a boost clock of 1440Mhz. It seems that manufacturers can restrict the GPU voltage and clock speeds of the RTX GPUs dependant on them achieving the right performance/ thermals in their chassis, especially the really thin ones like the GS75 has. A RTX 2070 can have a clock speed anywhere between 885Mhz to 1215Mhz and the boost clock between 1185Mhz to 1440Mhz. Power consumption is also set to a range between 80 watts and 115 watts. So if your're looking at a pure performance view then the GE75 would be the better bet in my, and others on this forums, opinion. If you haven't bought already I would look at the GE75 owners lounge, it seems a few people were going with the GS75 and then switched to the GE75. This by no way means the GS75 is a slouch, most of the on-line reviews are saying its a really good machine.

    If you have already "bitten the bullet" and purchased then I hope its everything you wanted.
     
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    Thanks for the warning, but the 2060 is supposed to be a full 2060, not Max-Q. Supposed to perform nearly as well as the 2070 Max-Q model, so better deal.
     
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    I think all three models of the GE75 are “full fat" GPU’s where the GS75 are all Max-Q.
     
  8. teltharian

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    I purchased the 2060 version of the GS75 from HIDevolution, and Donald confirmed the 2060 is the full version prior to my purchasing it.
     
  9. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    The GE uses the full GPUs, the GS series uses full 2060, and Max Q 2070 and Max Q 2080.
     
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    This is very important- People should have the correct expectations regarding the performance of GPUs. Max Q GPUs are not near the level of the full GPUs they "represent" and in this new RTX line, it is even more apparent.

    To further add confusion, there are 80 and 90w variants of Max Q GPUs, at least for the 2070 and 2080, which does deliver different performance.

    The GS series sacrifices performance for portability and anyone looking into these machines need to keep this in mind. The 2080 Max Q is, at best, near a normal full 2070. It is nowhere near a full 2080. Likewise, the 2070 MQ and 2060 strangely trade blows depending on the title and test.

    The GE series is for gaming and performance, and does sport the full GPUs.
     
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    I stand corrected, the GS75 with a RTX2060 is indeed "full fat", the RTX2070 and 2080 versions are Max-Q
     
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    when people say "full RTX / full GPU" do you they mean a full desktop GPU (obviously with less power) or a full notebook variant of the GPU?
     
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    It will generally mean the standard non-Max Q variant of the GPU: RTX 2080 and 2070. Since the RTX 2060 doesn't have a Max Q version (for now, at least), no clarification is needed.
     
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    Max Q versions get power limits that overall bring performance and temperature down considerably, in comparison to the normal power of the GPU. So a 2080 Max Q and a regular version have the same hardware, cores etc, but power limits make their clocks be much lower under use.
     
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