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    GT780R and GT683R already available in GentechPC, Finally!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by ryzeki, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. ryzeki

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    Ah... that's very good news ... unfortunately is not my time to get new laptop now ... :(
     
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    What materials are they using? Plastic all the way? Aluminium?
     
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    LCD back cover and palmrest are aluminum, the rest is plastic.

    backlit keyboard color can be change to any colors using the software.
     

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    Awesome Ken. Thanks :) I like the looks of it. Beautiful laptop. Will consider it for shure but a bit disappointing with only 1 fan when Asus have 2 fans with their 460M models. If only someone could test the GPU and compare it to 460M.
     
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    When will we be able to see a Video Review from you guys? :)
     
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    It doesn't matter how many fans it has. What matters is the end result. if my GX660R is any indication, one fan can keep things REAL Cool.

    Pretty neat design.. Damm I don't have money right now to recklesly go for a 17incher.
     
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    TDP is comparable between the 560m and the 5870 Mobility, right? If so, yeah, the single fan can keep it quite cool. 6970 or 470m or 485m would be a different story, I think.

    With that said, I do notice the dedicated CPU fan does seem to keep the G73 and G53 CPUs cooler, so there's that. Then again, CPU's are much, much less susceptible to heat damage than a GPU is.

    And, aluminum palmrest? That's cool. And changeable key lights? It's like a less expensive Alienware.


    And, lastly, buy from Gentech. Ken himself is worth the business, because he's probably the best customer rep we have (which is saying a lot, since all the other sales reps are great)
     
  9. Genna

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    Any chance to see barebone/whitebook of this one? A barebone might fit in my price range and in time to be able to assemble it as a total Beast! :)
     
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    The barebone version of the GT680 is currently available (MS-16F2) no ETA on either of these yet.
     
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    That's nice! I just can't change my 17 inch for something less. In the beginning I though it is going to be big, but now I don't want anything smaller anymore :)
     
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    Like Ryzeki said one fan worked since it has dual exhaust and it does runs very cool.

    With Turbo Fan turned on it works like a built-in laptop cooler, GX660/GT680 owner would agree with me. :)

    Will have to wait till mid May, the unit I was playing with at MSI this afternoon was a half-functional sample unit, the unit been test/disassemble so many times one of the hinge cover is missing (see last photo) and nobody at MSI can find it. :p

    I did make a short video of the sample unit:

    YouTube - MSI GT780R Sample unit
     
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    Hmm. Interior looks very similar to the GX660R. Should be easy to mod, I'm sure.

    Ken, how's the weight on this thing? I know it's 17-inch versus the 16-inch of the GX660R, but does it "feel" noticeably bigger when you're comparing both?

    Oh, and benchmarks, especially graphics ones. (Unless you're under NDA, of course).
     
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    Yeah the interior looks identcal to GX660R and everything is easy to access. it weights about 7.7 lbs with battery and yes, the 17.3" does feel noticeably bigger then 15.6".

    Haven't run the benchmark yet since this uinit is just a sample unit not a full funtional unit, I'll test it more when the actual shipment arrives. :)
     
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    A come on. 2 fans are superior to 1 fan cooling the entire laptop. G73/53 have 1 fan for CPU and 1 fan for GPU and it can cool down both very efficiency while at the same time they don`t have to run at full speed which is why they are the most quiet high end laptops out there.

    I would imagine these laptops to be more noisy because it is 1 fan that have to cool down a 75W TDP GPU and a 45W CPU. Either that or it is hotter than the laptops with dual fans. But then again I am only guessing since i never owned a MSI before.
     
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    Now, if only it would come in a 15- or 16-inch form factor...
     
  18. ruly

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    Ken a little question about the gt683 why does it still have the same price as the gt680, isnt the specs a little higher since it has the gtx 560m?
     
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    GTX 560M replace 460M and the price are the same. You'll find the same trend on Intel CPUs the newer model replace older one and price remain the same.
     
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    Guys im about to buy this but need a few questions answered first.

    Have asus released another 17 incher ? and with then same specs ?

    if not then i might get this been waiting for this thing for ages but what puts me off is one fan cooling everything i own an gx660 and i know the cooling is good but having 1 fan for each component will work much better.
     
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    Hey how is the noise with GX 660? I just imagine that poor fan going crazy to cool of the entire system. :p

    Asus have G74SX coming out soon. It is with 560M too. But it is ugly as HELL imo.

    Asus G74SX 3D Gaming Laptop at CeBIT 2011 | Laptop and Netbook Specifications
     
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    IMO cools very well.

    Noise i dont even notice any noise but 87% of time i have my fatality headphones on :).

    And thanks :).
     
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    Pretty quiet.

    Then again, I don't own a G73 so I can't give a more-than/less-than comparison. But it doesn't annoy me, especially when not under load.
     
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    The g74 is based of the stealth plane :) its not supposed to look cool it is supposed to look stealthy :).
     
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    Thanks for the answers. I just fell in love with the design of the laptop.

    BTW: According to GentechPC website 683R/780R have 90W power adapter. How is that possible with 75W GPU + 45W CPU? Typo?
     
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    Its kinda funny that MSI can cool there systems with just a single fan and do it well. Asus had to use two because they got stupid with the design and closed the case up so tight that with out two fans it would over heat.
     
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    Interesting lighting like Alienware.
     
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    It is both funny and brilliant. MSi uses very powerful fan (thick and with efficiently angled fans). It is able to push A LOT of air. Furthermore, they use very well calculated heatpipes' systems. They are relatively short (considerably shorter than those Asus implements) and well positioned. 2 is not always better than 1 :)
     
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    Most of the high end gaming laptops use 2 fan setups (Sager, Alienware, etc) its not an asus exclusive thing, its less common to see 1 fan setup with high end laptops, not saying 1 is bad, certainly MSI has proven they can have good cooling with one big fan instead of two, but i personally prefer two, its more desktop mentality into having separate coolers for each, either way works, so doesn't matter, as long as they design it properly i don't see a difference, the end result is what matters.
     
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    Also you guys who can afford this can change its lights to different colours like alienware so cool im having to half my car insurance and sell 2 laptops to get the 780r :D because i get paid monthly :D and i want this ASAP.
     
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    Is the keyboard of the GT780R of the same size as of the GT683? If so, isn't it possible then that you put the blacklight keyboard in the GT683R? You can then maybe buy the keyboard from MSI as a part.
     
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    Yeah i agree with this. More and more laptops get dual fan now. I prefer it, but can take the 1 fan solution if: A) It cools efficient B) It doesn`t force the 1 fan to go on turbo all the time to cool the entire system = Noise
     
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    They have corrected it. It is a 150W power adapter. Good :)
     
  34. midzi

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    Is it possible that GT780r and GT683r have exactly the same size? No mistake?
     
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    G74 is $1499 i think and GT780R is $1599 im going for Asus atm lol better spec better screen better sound etc.

    This world is a funny thing huh i love MSI but i keep getting attracted to the G74 more and more.
     
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    Better sound idk, MSI GX660r is legendary for its speaker setup, although G73 is fairly good i doubt its as good as MSIs, but its cheaper so i probably would go that route also.
     
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    I have the GX660 and its sound is amazing however its bugged with the horrible sound thing when you have it over 60 volume settings it makes a funny noise supposed ram slots vibrating or something :D.

    Anyway yes i am getting the G74 also but the GT780R has everything i need is is a lot lighter i really cant make my mind up im so bloody furious both laptops are really good.
     
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    I just thought of something. Alienware have Optimus with 460M. Does these laptops have that too??
     
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    Are you sure? i though they had switchable with 6970, but never read they had optimus with GTX460.
     
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    Yep i am 100% shure. M17x have 460M with 60Hz screen that have Optimus. And there is another model with 460M and 120Hz screen but it cannot use Optimus because the IGP is disabled :)
     
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    Can this be offered w/o the OS? I am not a big fan of Win 7. I still rather stick with Vista.
     
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    This models are prebuilds so my guess is no, but MSI has barebones so you might, but usually ends up more expensive.
     
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    It should have switchable graphics chip integrated with sandy bridge motherboard.
     
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    it wont, if it did msi would have marketed the hell out of the battery life like alienware, getting +6hours on the alienware is common, and 4hours with wifi on+browsing+keyboard lights on

    You get MSI/ASUS for the value (1499$ with 1080p lcd/dual drives/lot of ram/gtx560m) with alienware you only get 1500$ with crap lcd/320gb hd/4gb ram/900p screen/no subwoofer at all...) so they have to make themselves unique to get buyers (keyboard/optimus/6970m option/3D screen/etc)
     
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    I will wait to see if they offer this model into a barebone. Not sure if I want to fork over so much money for parts I already have sitting around.
     
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    TDP does not equal power consumption. Even if TDP did, then 150W would be skimping it. 75 + 45 = 120 W alone for CPU+GPU; what about the rest of the computer?
     
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    What is the difference between 17.3 inch 16:9 1920x1080 FHD LED glossy and 17.3" 1920x1080 Glossy LED 90% NTSC Color Gamut?
     
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    90W power adapter was typo and we corrected already, the power adapter should be 150W.


    The wider color gamut produce more accurate colors, the red looks more red unlike lower color gamut screens the colors looks kinda washed-out.
     
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    ETA on GT780R ?
     
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    Mid-May from what I've heard.
     
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