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    GT725 and Nvidia GTX 280M

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by JDELUNA, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    Has anyone purchased and tried an Nvidia GTX 280M in a MSI GT725 ??? Just wondering. God Bless :)
     
  2. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    I'm sure it would work (see the MSI GT627) and also considering that you were able to get one to work in an M15x, but it would be nice to see someone mod it. The heatsink for the 4850 should be compatible with the GTX 280M
     
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    So does MSI use a regular MXM in their laptops ??
     
  4. nacr05

    nacr05 Extreme Overclocker

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    It wouldnt be worth putting a GTX 280m in it. The 4850 is good enough and for the cost of upgrading it wouldnt be that much more of a preformance gain..
     
  5. ichime

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    Yes it does (MXM-II, III and IV).
     
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    i guess it depends if you upgrade it you would have the cheapest 17" notebook to utilize the GTX280. In total it wouldn't even be 2 grand for the notebook and 280 i think its a decent try.
     
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    clevoguy Notebook Guru

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    <.< and you came to that conclusion how? The sager base model 5797 now comes with a gtx 280 starting at 1692. A gt 725 starts at a little under 1400+ another 490$ for the gtx 280 upgrade.
     
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    Its doable but pointless, the hd4850 can easily take on the 280m in dog fights :)

    Ive personally seen Crysis run better on the 4850 ( i know, 1 game but still)
     
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    OC'd 280m is better than 3870 crossfire so........... think again!
     
  10. catacylsm

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    Not really, depends on the res in alot of cases, but a 1440x900 4850 stock beats a gtx 280m overclocked @ 1650x1050 or i cannot remember the res :D

    Since the res different is nothing major, and the OC would be quite big, i'd think the ATI would have more of the advantage, just curios to see what clocks people are running with 280m though.

    Edit : Innacurate statement, - res hurts!
     
  11. ichime

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    So is a single OC'd 4850 in certain cases.
     
  12. catacylsm

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    Agreed, the clocks on the HD4850 can be completely pushed beyond any believable limits :D

    12.5K+ in 3dmark for that thing :D
     
  13. anothergeek

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    lol so many guesses going on here. Seriously, give me some benches to compare to besides another 3dmark score :rolleyes:

    And at 1680 x 1050 (or 1080p). You'd be surpised how many more pixels that is than 1440 x 900 (1,764,000 vs 1,296,000) Overclock whatever you can out of it.
     
  14. catacylsm

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    "I suppose that res difference is small" is actually a rather innacurate statement haha.

    Ok

    http://optimitza.cat/benchmarks/laptops

    Did you take part in this another?
    Do you think an overclock could cover the higher res?

    COuld you run a ozone3d Furmark?

    That uses the gpu hardware 100% so in essence would be most accurate :D
    Run stability test for a few mins so it doesnt miss max frame on one of the spins and just list lowest, avg and highest.

    Cheers another.

    And i shall do the same on 1650 res when my lappy comes back from repair.
     
  15. neilnat

    neilnat Notebook Evangelist

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    Just my input, and by the way the 1680x1050 results on that benchmark page are mine, I think the 4850 is comparable to the gtx260. All the results I've seen have it trading blows with the 9800 gtx, which is the same card basically. I have no problem admitting that the gtx280 is a better card, but the OP's purpose of this thread (to try to put a gtx280 in a gt725) is pretty silly, since the upgrade price would probably not be worth the gain in performance.
     
  16. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Alienware has released the 4850, single or Crossfire, as an upgrade to the M17's 3870s.

    I might try to get my hands on one, if the GTX 260M doesn't impress me.
     
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    Agreed, it is silly neil, but we need to know exact figures and factors of the gtx 280m to be certain of that, after all it is new.
     
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    ....i just went to sager's site and it says it starts at $1799.99? Which site are you talking about?

    also thats only a p8700 with 2gb ram...
     
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    Catacylsm, you may want to run another DMC4 run, especially while overclocked. I got an average of... 132.265 @1440x900
     

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    Aye, can you get me a Crysis also and furmark, this is great, an average of 10-30 more frames :D

    This is looking really good for now.

    Hows the downscaling looking?

    Someone put a qx in there MSI and its coming out at 13.4k in 3dmark now, which is suprising, in comparison to p95, could the 12mb cache really be giving it such a big gain?

    Thanks for this another, really appreciate it.
     
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    This is at 1280 x 1024, a tiny bit more pixels than 1440 x 900 but that wasn't an option.

    DX10, 39.525
    DX9, 42.305
     

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    Ahh thats nice :), so the GTX 280m is definately living up to expectations, now for an important test, do you have anything we can test aa and so on?
     
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    Some Far Cry 2 short runs, DX10, 1680 x 1050, very high settings (but not ultra)

    0x AA: 48.64
    4x AA: 39.46
    8x AA: 30.54

    Some games have better performance AA like L4D. I play that at a solid 60 FPS with vsync and 4x AA.
     
  24. catacylsm

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    Agreed, far cry 2 seems very nice (even very high settings are good) and for 8x aa i must say that is really good.

    [​IMG]

    The max the 4850 has been OC'd

    570/1100 with ati 9.4

    I think with qx that could hit a potential 13k, prehaps even 14k.
    I think gtx 280 will get alot better, since i doubt it would have driver releases really optimised for that card :D.

    Here is msi with qx
    [​IMG]

    Taken from gt725.de, i just dont see how QX is melting p9500 lol
     
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    Germans and 3dmark06, hehe.

    I wish that MSI had Crysis FC2 and other games on its hard drive. I think it can do well in Crysis and in Crysis Warhead, but it'll probably be bested by the GTX 280M in FC2 and DMC4 due to the memory deficit.
     
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    Haha yeah, i would have loved pre loaded games on the HDD, im suprised they didnt do tomb raider as she is featured in some of the advertisements (I think)