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    GT627 with 8Gb

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by NitroNitrous, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. NitroNitrous

    NitroNitrous Notebook Consultant

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    I asked long time ago in the store where I bought my laptop and they told me the maximum amount of memory for the GT267 was 4Gb. I think that's because by then, there were not 2x4Gb kits, but the motherboard can actually handle 8Gb. Am I right? I've seen they're quite affordable nowadays. I don't really need 8Gb, but it's good to know for the future :)
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The chipset does support 8gb.

    I think you're right, it should work.
     
  3. NitroNitrous

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    Yeah I do, but I found this in Crucial's website

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    which makes me think it twice... anyway, I don't think I need, an SSD drive is gonna be my next update :)
     
  4. ghoula

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    Hi,


    Used to have 2x4GB Crucial in my GT725. The palm rest was really hot with it, heat sink of it was untouchable. And now after a bit more than a year, both ram is dead. Put back original ram, and even with 24% oc, (ram @ 990MHz) the palm rest is cold. So it will work, but without cooling pad i wouldn't advise it.

    Regards.
     
  5. NitroNitrous

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    Hmmm thanks so much for sharing your experience, then is probably not a good idea... I always use a notebook cooler, but still, since it would be an upgrade just because I feel like and not because I need it, I don't think is worth to risk... so yeah, I'll go for a SSD drive instead :)
     
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    ghoula Notebook Guru

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    You're welcome!
    If I could go back in time, now i would have choose the q9200, since already have the SSD. Go for SSD with OBHD, that would be the best upgrade. :)
     
  7. kosti

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    I'm not sure why ghoula's laptop got that hot just by adding more RAM, and the heatsink is not connected to the RAM so perhaps your GPU or CPU were running hot. All I can say is that if you add an SSD, you may want to turn off the paging file for better performance and longevity of the SSD. At that point 8GB of RAM would be a good idea especially if you are gaming.
     
  8. ghoula

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    Kosti, it wasn't heating up the cooling system, the 4gb ram modules where hotter, and it dissipated into the chassis, so eventually it heated up everything. Probably the chipset became hotter, to drive the bigger modules, but it wasn't noticeable in the cpu temperature....
    When i was talking about untouchable heatsink, it was the memory modules own heatsink. :)
     
  9. Kirrr

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    But you OC the ram, right?
     
  10. ghoula

    ghoula Notebook Guru

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    No. The 2x4Gb kit couldn't be overclocked, used it with 667Mhz, and with oc it was ~800Mhz.
    I said the 8Gb kit was hotter, than the 4gb with oc. But consider that, mine is DDR2, and 628 is DDR3. Lover voltage means lesser power usage.
     
  11. Kirrr

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    Now I searching for a pair of 4GB sticks. I already tested and it worked for me.
     
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    Ordered my Corsair kit today, they hopefully work well :)

     
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    I'm still waiting for price reduction. :(
     
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    DDR3 are half price of DDR2, I got a Corsair kit for an Alienware MX17 of a friend of mine for just 75€ shipped. My DDR2 cost quite a lot, but since I use the laptop for design and some heavy applications it's well worth for me.
     
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    Yes, the 1333MHz version is cheap enough. But the mobo supports only 1066MHz which is costs +10€/stick. Maybe I'll buy some faster, and let it downclock...
     
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    Yes you should. The specified frequency is the maximum certified, but they can always run slower. Not sure if for your personal use you're gonna feel the difference between 4 and 8Gb thogugh.
     
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    Alright ladies I got my memory today and there are a couple of things I want to discuss with you.

    First of all, I set the ram settings in the BIOS as default. I then installed the memory, but laptop didn't boot.
    I started to try with different manual settings, with both 667 and 800 speeds and different timings. No success.
    I then decided to update the BIOS (was using 1.0S). Problem solved, it now boots and runs well, but this solution created a couple of small things that annoy me a bit.

    1 - In the other BIOS I had 2 settings for cpu power management. They were configured in the right way, so the cpu was at its lowest voltage/clocks when idling and automatically went to the highest ones while in load. Or I could just tap the Gaming button and then it sticks to the maximum voltage/clocks.

    Now the automatic management works well, but when I press the gaming button Aida 64 reads a constat clock speed of 2.66Ghz (when it should be 2.4Ghz) and CPU-Z moves around 1.6, 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6Ghz. Also the voltage goes from 1.05 to 1.3V. ?

    I then open Throttle Stop, and as soon as I open it, Aida 64 reads 3.33Ghz and CPUZ reads the right one, 2.4Ghz and right voltage as well. ?

    I then right click in TS and select "reset". Now both Aida 64 and CPUZ show the right values. After doing that, everyhing goes well, as it should be. I can then close TS and still going well.

    So, are Aida64 and CPUZ giving wrong values? Why do they get the right ones when I open TS and click reset? Why is this so weird?

    2 - Another setting this new BIOS took away was the ram settings. Now I can't change a damn single setting, so the memory runs at 667Mhz and SPD timings. I know unless I benchmark I'm not gonna feel the difference, but I'd like to run them at 800Mhz just like the old ones. Any idea? The kit is of course a 800Mhz one.

    Thanks for reading!!!
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I will send you a PM about this, should fix your problem.
     
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    Thanks man, I really appreciate!! Any idea about the other problem? Do you think is just a reading problem or the cpu is actually doing strange things?
     
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    I would trust throttlestop, but I have never heard of Aida 64, so I can't say if it's wrong or not. CPUz has been wrong for me before.
     
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    Well, let's suppose those are just reading problems, hopefully they are.
    As for the memory speed, looks like they're running at 800Mhz CL5, like the 4Gb kit. Thanks so much MH, I'll update the tread if I got something new.

    And for those GT627 owners considering the 8Gb upgrade, yeah, with a BIOS update it works.
     
  22. Kirrr

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    Good to hear that. :D