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    GS60 vs GT72 Performance to Weight Ratio

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by MSIGeno, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. MSIGeno

    MSIGeno Company Representative

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    We got hold of a GS60, which as you probably know is quite a slim machine at only 19.9mm thick. Due to some clever engineering, we are able to run a GTX 970M in it without any problems, and since it also uses the same CPU as the GT72, we can compare them side by side. We will take a look at the 3D benchmark performance of the GS60 vs. GT72, GTX 970M vs. 980M, Finesse vs. Bulk.

    Below are the specs of the two machines. The benchmarks used are 3DMark 11 and 3DMark Firestrike


























    GT72 GS60
    CPU Intel Core i7-4710HQ Intel Core i7-4710HQ
    RAM 2x8GB 1600MHz DDR3L 2x8GB 1600MHz DDR3L
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M
    Weight 3.78kg 1.9kg
    Benchmarks 3DMark 11, 3DMark Firestrike 3DMark 11, 3DMark Firestrike
    Starting off with Firestrike, we notice that the GTX 970M in the GS60 will go as far as the drivers will allow us: 135MHz above stock levels: a GPU frequency of 1059MHz and boost at 1173MHz. Obviously, the 970M is down on shaders compared to the 980M as well, but it also won’t overclock as high. The 980M in the GT72 reaches 1173MHz GPU with a boost frequency of 1262MHz, while its memory also overclocks better, to over 6GHz. The GS60 and 970M falls some 80MHz short of the 6GHz mark.

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    At stock frequencies, we hit over 9200 points in 3DMark 11, with the GS60 and 970M, wheras the GT72 with its 980M clears 11000. With overclocking, the 970M comes close to the 10k mark, which no doubt would have fallen with higher frequencies if it hadn’t been for the driver limitations.

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    Moving on to Fire Strike, we see a similar picture. The 980M is comfortably clear of the 970M, but the 970M still offers impressive performance for a mobile chip. Over 6500 points in Fire Strike, and an additional comfortably achieved 800 points with overclocking.

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    Not enough to touch the 980M in the GT72

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    The GS models were designed for people on the go who still want to do some serious gaming every now and then, while the GT series is more performance focused. This is what we want to highlight with the graph above: the performance/weight ratio in the GS60 is probably among the highest in notebooks everywhere right now.
     

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  2. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Thanks for this! :)
    This will make decisions that much harder for those on the bubble .
     
  3. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Excellent contribution Geno, it paints a picture for those that seek high performance mobility vs those that want absolute performance.
     
  4. MSIGeno

    MSIGeno Company Representative

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    No problem guys! just wanted to share with everyone on NBR about the differences between the two, since alot of people will want to see if they would rather go for a portable form factor or a straight up beast.
     
  5. frysie

    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    seems tho the 60GS has a lot of manufacturer issues; ive seen atleast 4 count of defective parts in the past 2 weeks.... if only the GS60 had an IPS panel in australia i might be tempted still....
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    4 is a very small number :) Considering GS series has been a bit on the market already (with 800m series) they don't seem that defective at all. Back in the day, we used to see notebooks with glaring defects that affected 20% or more of the community, for different brands. Some even became famous :p

    But at least we have good resellers and representatives helping us out :)
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nice, though once an unlocked vbios is out that ratio will change for the enthusiasts :)

    For the average consumer it will apply though.
     
  8. frysie

    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    far out... why must people sway my ways to the darkside of a slilm factor gs60 now..... grrr or even a gs70
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you don't mind the weight the GT72 does offer a range of advantages but the GS series keeps the penalties for being slim to a minimum.
     
  10. frysie

    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    I just don't know what i want anymore

    gone from

    g751 > gt72 > to maybe a 60/70....

    come to think of it; it probably is wiser to buy a cheaper notebook than the GT72 for the cpu refresh in 1-2 years time. less money / year spent and can still play most if not all games be then. the money saved now can go towards the skylake releases....

    so the gentech review doesnt really show much difference between the GS70 and GS60 in dimensions... but it seems the IPS is only on the GS60 and native resolution downscaling.... will this be an issue on the GS60 that much ???

    edit:

    gs70 looks a bit better with regards to accessing ram/ssd slots.... might go with the GS70 then... shame because my travel bags are all 15.6" ... guess i can carry two lol
     
  11. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    NICE Geno! When I read the topic here, my first thought was to biotch-slap you, because it sounded like a ridiculous notion. Now that I've seen what you've done...... :thumbsup:..... Good Job!

    :D
     
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    Great work Geno, had me think twice about my preference for a lightweight laptop, the numbers by the 980m are immense. Still for me though I think it will be GS60 for me. Great work though, much appreciated.
     
  13. MSIGeno

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    LOL it sounds crazy at first, but there is some good data to be had from this kind of comparison :thumbsup:
     
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  14. MrD1sturbed

    MrD1sturbed Notebook Evangelist

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    Coming from someone who has had both the GS60 Ghost Pro (870M ver) and the GT72 - 211, I can tell that you that without a doubt I am squarely in the portability over power camp. The GT72 is a beast, no doubt about it. I love everything about that machine, except the size and weight. And yes I knew going in it was much larger and heavier than the GS60, but I still had to try it out. And I am glad I did, because now I truly know that the GS60 is my laptop of choice. So I will be getting a 6GB 970M model as soon as they are readily available and I will live happy in the knowledge that I have the best of both worlds! Bravo Geno for posting this info, it will definitely help would be buyers in either camp.
     
  15. frysie

    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    the local store only had a gt60 and it wasn't really that heavy. i could cope with another kg ontop of the gt60 on the 72... its like carrying a bag of sugar lol.....

    still undecided tho :( gs60, clevo p650se (new contender with 980gtx), p35x, gt72 .........grrr why does it have to be so difficult