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    GE63 8RF much more slower on integrated screen

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by JAnguita, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. JAnguita

    JAnguita Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've just bought a brand new 8th generation GE63 with a FHD 120 hz panel.

    Testing several games, I was getting less FPS I expected so I decided to try to play through the DisplayPort to a external monitor with same resolution.
    I've obtained much more FPS with exactly the same options and checking that nVidia was used in both cases.

    I can't undestand why because the differences are huge.

    Any suggestion? Some related to the Intel GPU conected to the internal screen?
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    It shouln't be that drastic tho. Try to reinstall NVIDIA and intel drivers then see how it goes.
     
  3. JAnguita

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    I've done a clean install twice without success.
    I'm testing an Aorus X5 V8 with same nVidia 1070 although a better CPU (i7-8850H) and I get almost three time FPS.
     
  4. Danishblunt

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    Have you checked dragon center and set it to a different profile?
    Also have you set the NVIDIA panel to adaptive or high performance?
     
  5. JAnguita

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    Dragon panel is set to Turbo with highest overclock.
    NV Panel is set to nVidia High perfomance.
    What I've notice is that with the SAME settings, in the external monitor I get much more speed than in internal.
     
  6. Talon

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    What you’re seeing is probably the result of Optimus. When routing to the internal screen it goes through the Intel GPU before going to the display. When routing externally it probably bypasses the iGPU entirely and that is giving better performmace. Yet another reason why Optimus without a MUX is ****.
     
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    Yes I though this could be the problem. What is a MUX? Is it what ASUS GM501 implemented?
     
  8. Danishblunt

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    it still shouldnnt behave like this, hence I suggested installing the newest intel drivers aswell.
     
  9. JAnguita

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    All drivers are updated to the most recent version from Intel, nVidia... not from MSI
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2018
  10. The good German

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    I have the exact same problem whereas my 1440p screen 27" performs better in BF1 then the notebook running just the internal display. This really sucks.

    I will return it for this reason alone...



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  11. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    I was under the impression that external screens use the Nvidia GPU exclusively, since they have external gsync, so Optimus cannot be used here?
     
  12. The good German

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    Why this may very well be true, the problem remains that I run BF1 on my ext Acer Predator on all high on 1440p with solid 90 fps touching 100 and that is connected to the display port.

    When doing the same settings with the internal monitor which is 1080p and 16 inch I have 70 max with huge framedrops when switching to aiming down site or scope.

    I made sure that the global nvidia settings are on max power and that the game is forced to run with the dGPU.

    Last thing to do is that I will install windows fresh and then take the driver from the Helpdesk app which are often newer then what's on the MSI HP for my particular device. And then I install one after thr other just to make sure that it's nothing with the driver. Nonetheless, I had a GT73 7RF with a 1080 and here I never had issues as one had to switch between dGPU and Intel GPU with a dedicated button and it did require a reboot. Not sure who thought this optimus crap is of any value if the only thing it does is adding complexity to the system.

    I hope im not alone with the issue and others may have found a resolution.....

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